Ryzen 7 2700X upgrade from E5-1680 V2?

[Brennan Price]

Budget (including currency): No budget

Country: United Kingdom

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Primarily Lightroom image editing and gaming.

 

Hiya folks, 

 

Today I won a Ryzen 7 2700X on auction for a whopping £47. Because of this small win I am tempted to get an ASUS TUF GAMING B450-PLUS II motherboard and a 64GB kit of 3600MHz CAS18 for £270 total. Combined total with CPU is just below £320. I already have a cooler that will handle this chip with correct mounting. Is this going to be worth it or shall I not bother? 

 

I have my E5-1860 V2 overclocked to 4.5GHz currently and get a score similar to the stock 2700X ~ Cinebench R15 points as follows: ~ 1652 points Multi & 162 points single core. 

 

I am going to overclock this chip, will the price be worth it when the chip is overclocked?

 

In case it was not obvious, I have been out of the loop for a while.

 

Cheers, Brennan. 

[OhYou_]

You will see almost no difference in performance, the overall benefit would be the featureset of the new motherboard and maybe a bit less power consumption.
it may be worth it I guess if you factor in selling the old hardware

[Somerandomtechyboi]

More of a sidegrade than an upgrade when your current cpu performs like the one that youll be upgrading to, although you will get somewhat lower power consumption

 

If you dont need a secondary pc then just resell the 2700x

[Zando_]

If memory serves, the 1680v2 at that clock beat the 2700X (TechYesCity has a video on it), so it won't be a performance upgrade unless the spectre/meltdown fixes hit the Xeon especially hard. 2700X is a more modern and power efficient chip though, if that's a plus. It may slightly be better in straight single core as well, the main strength of older Intel chips is in games, due to the very low latency ringbus architecture. 

5 minutes ago, Brennan Price said:

I am going to overclock this chip, will the price be worth it when the chip is overclocked?

Not worth the effort, Ryzens in general don't clock well, Zen/Zen+ chips (2000 series is Zen+) capped out at 4-4.2GHz for most samples. 

7 minutes ago, Brennan Price said:

64GB kit of 3600MHz CAS18

Are you getting a great deal on this? Because otherwise get 3200Mhz CL16, should be cheaper (or CL14 if it's affordable but often those are stupid expensive kits still). Ryzens need the Infinity Fabric clock (FCLK) 1:1 with memory clock for good performance. Most Zen+ chips cap out at 1600Mhz FCLK which = 3200MHz RAM (as it runs at 1600Mhz). I saw some people successfully run some 3400Mhz kits but I think that was careful selection of specific kits + silicon lottery luck with the CPU. I got out of Ryzen ages ago so I don't remember exactly. 

[Brennan Price]

3 minutes ago, Zando_ said:

If memory serves, the 1680v2 at that clock beat the 2700X (TechYesCity has a video on it), so it won't be a performance upgrade unless the spectre/meltdown fixes hit the Xeon especially hard. 2700X is a more modern and power efficient chip though, if that's a plus. It may slightly be better in straight single core as well, the main strength of older Intel chips is in games, due to the very low latency ringbus architecture. 

Not worth the effort, Ryzens in general don't clock well, Zen/Zen+ chips (2000 series is Zen+) capped out at 4-4.2GHz for most samples. 

Are you getting a great deal on this? Because otherwise get 3200Mhz CL16, should be cheaper (or CL14 if it's affordable but often those are stupid expensive kits still). Ryzens need the Infinity Fabric clock (FCLK) 1:1 with memory clock for good performance. Most Zen+ chips cap out at 1600Mhz FCLK which = 3200MHz RAM (as it runs at 1600Mhz). I saw some people successfully run some 3400Mhz kits but I think that was careful selection of specific kits + silicon lottery luck with the CPU. I got out of Ryzen ages ago so I don't remember exactly. 

Thanks for the insightful information! Basically not at all worth changing then. 

 

I may still throw it together with a much cheaper motherboard and ram but we'll see. 

 

Thanks for your help  

[Brennan Price]

11 minutes ago, OhYou_ said:

You will see almost no difference in performance, the overall benefit would be the featureset of the new motherboard and maybe a bit less power consumption.
it may be worth it I guess if you factor in selling the old hardware

Thanks for the help! I'll leave my main rig be for now. Cheers!

[Brennan Price]

12 minutes ago, Somerandomtechyboi said:

More of a sidegrade than an upgrade when your current cpu performs like the one that youll be upgrading to, although you will get somewhat lower power consumption

 

If you dont need a secondary pc then just resell the 2700x

Thanks for the help! I'll leave my main rig be for now. Cheers!

[Zando_]

Just now, Brennan Price said:

Thanks for the insightful information! Basically not at all worth changing then. 

 

I may still throw it together with a much cheaper motherboard and ram but we'll see. 

If you've ever wanted a secondary PC for mucking about with VMs or setting up a NAS, it's a supreme CPU for that. Ryzen motherboards often have settings to put the CPU in ECO mode (45W or 65W depending on what chip, for the 3700X I have at work it's 45W), and sometimes even lower, so you can make them absolutely sip power and still have plenty of oomph for homelab tasks. 

 

[Brennan Price]

30 minutes ago, Zando_ said:

If you've ever wanted a secondary PC for mucking about with VMs or setting up a NAS, it's a supreme CPU for that. Ryzen motherboards often have settings to put the CPU in ECO mode (45W or 65W depending on what chip, for the 3700X I have at work it's 45W), and sometimes even lower, so you can make them absolutely sip power and still have plenty of oomph for homelab tasks. 

 

You have made a very solid point... I have been meaning to do more with my NAS so this might be the best thing for it! I like that idea a lot