Intel Wants My Business Back.

[Emily Young]

Both AMD’s Threadripper and Intel’s Core X HEDT processors have been dormant for years now. But Intel’s Sapphire Rapids Xeon W is the spiritual successor, and hits AMD where they stopped competing.
 

 

[rcmaehl]

SPICY

[Nystemy]

The high performance desktop platform has been interesting over the years. Being this odd space between regular desktops and fully fledged servers.

 

In my own experience I have mostly found it advantageous due to the increased memory bandwidth thanks to more memory channels. _{(I were looking at getting a threadripper system back in the day, but largely said nah when it didn't have 8 memory channels and therefore weren't really any better than going for a second hand 2011-3 CPU from a price/performance perspective back then.)}

[Mister_Magister]

I was recently looking for some low power machines with ECC but outside of getting some ryzen board there's basically nothing between x79 xeons and now. Any low power scalable xeon is just soldered on so you can't get it. The 6 core with ecc memory looks sweeet as a home server/pc

[Luscious]

The pricing for a current AMD 5965 is pretty outrageous at ~$2200 given that the OG Intel 5960 sold for $1000. Similarly the boards for these have doubled in price too ($500 for a R5E vs. $1000 for the WRX80). Argue whatever you want about inflation playing into it or even price to performance - it has still become prohibitively expensive even for enthusiasts.

 

I would gladly give Intel that $1000 for an unlocked 12 core with a mobo that lets me rock four water-cooled graphics cards JUST LIKE what X99 was able to do. That's assuming Asus and Gigabyte can deliver the boards for it. At the end of the day, as impressive as TR Pro is, it is simply overpriced. Old-skool guys like me who want to rock more than two GPU's need those 4 full length PCI-e slots with the lanes to push it.

[MostafaP]

On 2/16/2023 at 9:29 PM, GabenJr said:

Both AMD’s Threadripper and Intel’s Core X HEDT processors have been dormant for years now. But Intel’s Sapphire Rapids Xeon W is the spiritual successor, and hits AMD where they stopped competing.
 

 

Can you guys ask Intel whether booting from a RAID 0 PCI-E Gen 5 SSD array without Hardware VRoC keys on this platform is possible and do the benchmarks too?

 

So we can see if the following job can be done more properly this time:

 

Edit: Also do the SSDs need to be Intel ones again for this purpose?

[Uttamattamakin]

21 hours ago, Luscious said:

The pricing for a current AMD 5965 is pretty outrageous at ~$2200 given that the OG Intel 5960 sold for $1000. Similarly the boards for these have doubled in price too ($500 for a R5E vs. $1000 for the WRX80). Argue whatever you want about inflation playing into it or even price to performance - it has still become prohibitively expensive even for enthusiasts.

Know what's worse.  As far as I can tell it is not possible to get a Threadripper pro Mobo that has TB4 on board.  For that matter same for AM5 ... no TB4 on board as far as I know.  It's like AMD and partners decided to stop trying since they haven't needed to.  

Seeing things AMD's way.  My current system is a R7 5700G that according the Mathematica mark benches better than first gen threadripper and runs well enough to give 3-4 cores to Windows and game on my 3080 while I run CUDA calculations on my 1080.   I'd love to be able to also give my windows VM a dedicated USB controller but not enough PCIE Lanes, not enough IOMMU isolation. 

[gRaN-Ma project]

On 2/16/2023 at 6:59 PM, GabenJr said:

Both AMD’s Threadripper and Intel’s Core X HEDT processors have been dormant for years now. But Intel’s Sapphire Rapids Xeon W is the spiritual successor, and hits AMD where they stopped competing.
 

 

Dear Anthony,

when you get the opportunity, you should make a benchmark video about the w5-3435X processor. It is interesting for its total cost of ownership. I think that its 5-year life cycle and its specifications will guarantee to the user a total compatibility with the new needs, resulting due to technological progress. It will probably become useless or obsolete after 7-8 years of life cycle. In fact, I believe that the aforementioned processor with 256 GB of ecc ram is adequate for a coherent professional workstation: for example it could mount until to 128 GB of memory pcie (or thunderbolt) cards, without the risk of sudden shutdowns.

 

PS: In the signature form you have used a good method against scraping, remaining available at the same time.

[ImorallySourcedElectrons]

Great, now go and make one for us with one of those embedded FPGAs Intel. I want to play with one of those Xeons but they're too pricey

[kokosnh]

Now we need someone to build a 16 x M.2 NVMe PCIe 4.0 NAS with 100 Gbps NIC (or 2 x 100Gbps), and see how it's goes.  

Preferably on freenas.