Graphic looks bad on ultra on some objects ( IN ALL GAMES tested in 100+ games ), here is one example

[kosturko92]

Anyone found out why some objects in all games are appearing with low texture while settings are set on Ultra High ?

[Dukesilver27-]

It's the game's issue, not GPU issue.

https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ffab&q=ff+7+remake+intergrade+blurry+texture&ia=web

I haven't found any solution, even rendering the game in higher resolution does not fix it, no mods no tweaks worked.

[xAcid9]

Is the game on SSD or HDD? 

[kosturko92]

12 minutes ago, xAcid9 said:

Is the game on SSD or HDD? 

It's on SSD NVME, could be the game problem as Dukesilver27 described, but i do have some or similar sort of textures appearing this way on every game i play.

[xAcid9]

Hmm.. maybe you can try clear out existing shader cache or remove your Geforce driver with DDU and reinstall it. 

1. https://computersluggish.com/guides/clear-nvidia-cache-files/

2. https://www.wagnardsoft.com/display-driver-uninstaller-ddu-

 

[kosturko92]

On 12/5/2022 at 4:27 AM, xAcid9 said:

Hmm.. maybe you can try clear out existing shader cache or remove your Geforce driver with DDU and reinstall it. 

1. https://computersluggish.com/guides/clear-nvidia-cache-files/

2. https://www.wagnardsoft.com/display-driver-uninstaller-ddu-

 

I have tried all of this,
I have tried re-installing the windows
I've tested on different components with the same result:
Ram
PSU
GPU
Monitor
SSD
HDD
The only component that i didn't swap out and tested were:
CPU and Motherboard, but they are not showing any kind of dead signs in general, CPU also passed all possible tests out there ( Prime, Intel CPU check and so on )

[kosturko92]

Anyone have solution for bad graphic in all games ? This is how some objects looks whatever i play
- To start off with:
It is not:
Windows
Drivers
Game files or steam
SSD
HDD

PSU
GPU
RAM
The only part i haven't tested is motherboard and cpu ?
Can they be faulty ? Even though there is no other signes of them being bad. CPU has passed all tests ( prime, intel cpu test etc )


 

[RoseLuck462]

Looks like it’s the game itself 

[Levent]

Would you like to explain what have you done to come to these conclusions? While at it, also share system specs please.

 

It's either the game or the driver.

 

Problem with hardware is easy to test, those two are not.

[kosturko92]

Just now, Levent said:

Would you like to explain what have you done to come to these conclusions? While at it, also share system specs please.

 

It's either the game or the driver.

 

Problem with hardware is easy to test, those two are not.

All games same issue, i can literally open all of my 100 steam games and find some objects appearing graphicless on Ultra. I have swapped all parts expect motherboard and cpu ( from previous PC ), having the same issues.
Driver - Nope i tested on all possible Nvida drivers, some even got worse. I am using latest right now ( with SS above )
Speccs ( don't know if it matters )
i7 10700k
RTX 3070ti
NVME 980 Pro
DDR4 Ram 32GB ( kingstony fury 3466hz ) i overclocked it ( but im getting same issues even if i run stock speeds )
PSU - i have tried couple of those, currently running at Seasonic 850W Gold
Cables - i tried all reserve cables from PSU/Motherboard box - same issue
 

[Mark Kaine]

On 12/5/2022 at 2:31 AM, kosturko92 said:

Anyone found out why some objects in all games are appearing with low texture while settings are set on Ultra High ?

yeah, its a budget and sometimes competency thing. In SE case its definitely both lol.

 

 

Whats funny about it, people en mass seem to start noticing only since 3000 series release , because these cards are obviously so powerful bad textures etc should be a thing of the past... or they are just now noticing the stark contrast between objects in games at all, no, been always like that.

 

34 minutes ago, kosturko92 said:

i7 10700k
RTX 3070ti
NVME 980 Pro
DDR4 Ram 32GB ( kingstony fury 3466hz ) i overclocked it ( but im getting same issues even if i run stock speeds )
PSU - i have tried couple of those, currently running at Seasonic 850W Gold
Cables - i tried all reserve cables from PSU/Motherboard box - same issue

not sure what that has to do with bad texture work but ok.

 

ps: on the bright side, you're definitely not alone experiencing this phenomenon... its hard for me to understand though,  because ive been noticing at least since ps1 gen.

especially the warping lol (which was ps1 specific pretty much) 

 

 

 

hint: ground textures are usually the worse, devs just don't seem to care about those and use the crudest techniques.  ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 

 

 

[ApolloX75]

42 minutes ago, kosturko92 said:

All games same issue, i can literally open all of my 100 steam games and find some objects appearing graphicless on Ultra. I have swapped all parts expect motherboard and cpu ( from previous PC ), having the same issues.
Driver - Nope i tested on all possible Nvida drivers, some even got worse. I am using latest right now ( with SS above )
Speccs ( don't know if it matters )
i7 10700k
RTX 3070ti
NVME 980 Pro
DDR4 Ram 32GB ( kingstony fury 3466hz ) i overclocked it ( but im getting same issues even if i run stock speeds )
PSU - i have tried couple of those, currently running at Seasonic 850W Gold
Cables - i tried all reserve cables from PSU/Motherboard box - same issue
 

Curious what other GPUs have you tried?

 

What motherboard model are you running as well, just want to work some theories.

 

I haven't seen texture pop like this in a long time, at least not with high end components. Usually you only see this kind of thing when someone is using crap hardware, not good stuff.

 

Since it's apparently happening in *every* game in your library, there's got to be some common link for the issue. 

[Mark Kaine]

On 12/5/2022 at 3:11 AM, Dukesilver27- said:

It's the game's issue, not GPU issue.

https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ffab&q=ff+7+remake+intergrade+blurry+texture&ia=web

I haven't found any solution, even rendering the game in higher resolution does not fix it, no mods no tweaks worked.

... in theory... mods are a viable solution to this, but i agree,  i haven't found a mod that really fixes *all* poor textures in a game, but they can definitely be an overall improvement... and i also haven't really tried many, because im generally not bothered much by this phenomenon... i guess i just learned not to zoom in on certain things (like the floor) or simply accept some crude textures. 

 

 

1 hour ago, kosturko92 said:

All games same issue

also yeah, this isn't true, it varies for sure, some games even have outstanding texture work... but tbh, you will *always* find some bad textures if you're looking for them no matter what. 

 

Monster Hunter World + *hd texture pack* has really very good textures,  even the floor etc appear to be very detailed (but if you go out of your way and zoom in on certain things, well you're likely to find something even in that game)

 

edit: example of how textures can be improved by mods

 

tekken 7 vanilla stage

 

 

tekken 7 modded stage

 

and tbf its hard to find really bad textures in tekken 7 stages, its a fighting game,  stages are small, but there is still a very stark contrast to the modded stage (lighting included)

[kosturko92]

1 hour ago, ApolloX75 said:

Curious what other GPUs have you tried?

 

What motherboard model are you running as well, just want to work some theories.

 

I haven't seen texture pop like this in a long time, at least not with high end components. Usually you only see this kind of thing when someone is using crap hardware, not good stuff.

 

Since it's apparently happening in *every* game in your library, there's got to be some common link for the issue. 

I have tried my old GPU, 1070ti
Asus z490 A-Gaming is my motherboard

I am just curios can this be a thing of a faulty motherboard or CPU in general or it's impossible that those components cause low textures ?

[kosturko92]

1 hour ago, Mark Kaine said:

... in theory... mods are a viable solution to this, but i agree,  i haven't found a mod that really fixes *all* poor textures in a game, but they can definitely be an overall improvement... and i also haven't really tried many, because im generally not bothered much by this phenomenon... i guess i just learned not to zoom in on certain things (like the floor) or simply accept some crude textures. 

 

 

also yeah, this isn't true, it varies for sure, some games even have outstanding texture work... but tbh, you will *always* find some bad textures if you're looking for them no matter what. 

 

Monster Hunter World + *hd texture pack* has really very good textures,  even the floor etc appear to be very detailed (but if you go out of your way and zoom in on certain things, well you're likely to find something even in that game)

 

edit: example of how textures can be improved by mods

 

tekken 7 vanilla stage

 

 

tekken 7 modded stage

 

and tbf its hard to find really bad textures in tekken 7 stages, its a fighting game,  stages are small, but there is still a very stark contrast to the modded stage (lighting included)

Does this mean that i literally have to apply mod to every single game i play to avoid bad ground textures ?

[Mark Kaine]

3 minutes ago, kosturko92 said:

Does this mean that i literally have to apply mod to every single game i play to avoid bad ground textures ?

in *theory* yes... but this is not feasible and there aren't mods for every game either,  far from it.

 

the thing that might help you is understanding how games , textures, etc work... as i said you'll always find such cases and its not always because devs didn't bother, its also inherently how games are rendered,  vram limitations,  etc, etc  

 

the only thing that really makes a difference possibly is choosing games and devs that are good at this, which , no offense,  won't be the case for "100" random steam games ...

 

the thing in your example screenshot is clearly a texture from the original (ps1) game,  if its meant to be like this i dunno,  but it's there,  no hardware is going to change this, the devs would need to replace/ fix those textures...

 

as said you'll find this in any game, just the frequency and amount will vary.

[kosturko92]

3 minutes ago, Mark Kaine said:

in *theory* yes... but this is not feasible and there aren't mods for every game either,  far from it.

 

the thing that might help you is understanding how games , textures, etc work... as i said you'll always find such cases and its not always because devs didn't bother, its also inherently how games are rendered,  vram limitations,  etc, etc  

 

the only thing that really makes a difference possibly is choosing games and devs that are good at this, which , no offense,  won't be the case for "100" random steam games ...

 

the thing in your example screenshot is clearly a texture from the original (ps1) game,  if its meant to be like this i dunno,  but it's there,  no hardware is going to change this, the devs would need to replace/ fix those textures...

 

as said you'll find this in any game, just the frequency and amount will vary.

Thing is, i either haven't noticed this on my old PC, or this started to happen on my new build. Because i am gaming for years and i never, ever noticed bad texutres before. That's why i thought it has to be hardware, somehow ?

I also read that CPU is responsible for feeding textures to the GPU, then GPU renders it and if the link between them is faulty it can cause bad textures to appear as they don't get rendered properly, i am not an expert so i am not sure is this true, and can this really be an issue?

I don't want to change hardware (CPU + Motherboard) just to test it out, i don't have that kind of luxury so im hopefully searching for an answer or solution here, if people did exprience similar issue and had budget to test everything out. 

[Mark Kaine]

52 minutes ago, kosturko92 said:

Thing is, i either haven't noticed this on my old PC, or this started to happen on my new build. Because i am gaming for years and i never, ever noticed bad texutres before. That's why i thought it has to be hardware, somehow ?

but thats what im telling you - a lot of people are just noticing now - for whatever reason..

 but it has always been there - in fact, no matter how much i may bitch about it,  this has *improved* over the last years, way more games with actual high res textures... but as said, again,  no game is perfect and the amount of bad textures will vary.

 

52 minutes ago, kosturko92 said:

also read that CPU is responsible for feeding textures to the GPU, then GPU renders it and if the link between them is faulty it can cause bad textures to appear as they don't get rendered properly, i am not an expert so i am not sure is this true, and can this really be an issue?

this can happen,  but its not the issue here, these are very rare cases where this can happen... i mean, you posted a screenshot from a SE game, the kings of bad textures lol...

 

the main issue is how games are rendered currently and that devs really need to put the effort to make every texture look good, which is often impossible due to budget,  etc.

 

This isn't even the main issue with games nowadays,  that's physics which includes stuff like clipping... can be easily fixed by devs, is not a hardware issue per say, but would cost a lot of time and money, so they usually just don't bother and ship it "good enough" (which is often not even close to good enough) 

 

52 minutes ago, kosturko92 said:

if people did exprience similar issue and had budget to test everything out. 

see above,  its been always like that (do you want me to post old pc / ps1 screenshots to prove it? ), people just accepted it more easily until recently, apparently... there's no end user hardware to fix this.

 

if you want to fix this you'll need to start paying attention what kind of games you buy, or start learning how to mod = )

 

[ApolloX75]

21 minutes ago, Mark Kaine said:

but 

 

 

Respectfully, I'm not saying you're wrong, but I think you're not comprehending the issue here or the question that is being asked.

 

I also don't agree with anything you've said. But anyways that's besides the point, you made your point well known in a decent form, I just don't think anything you're saying is actually going to fix the problem.

1 hour ago, kosturko92 said:

I have tried my old GPU, 1070ti
Asus z490 A-Gaming is my motherboard

I am just curios can this be a thing of a faulty motherboard or CPU in general or it's impossible that those components cause low textures ?

On to a possible fix: Have you ever updated the BIOS on that motherboard? I went through the Asus support page for it and it has to have almost a dozen updates to it. Every single one says "improves system performance" and "improves dram compatibility".

I think you should start there if you haven't already. If you have, well we can take that off the list.

 

[LAwLz]

Pretty sure this is a software issue.

 

Have you changed any settings in any driver?

Installed any third party software?

Are you sure all drivers are up to date?

 

What is the performance like, other than the poor textures? Are you getting like 10 FPS or 60 FPS?

[kosturko92]

6 hours ago, LAwLz said:

Pretty sure this is a software issue.

 

Have you changed any settings in any driver?

Installed any third party software?

Are you sure all drivers are up to date?

 

What is the performance like, other than the poor textures? Are you getting like 10 FPS or 60 FPS?

No i didn't change driver settings, i simply applied drivers from nvida website, currently running latest, yes i am sure on that.
Peformance other than the poor textures: No FPS issues, in battlefield V for example i am getting 140 FPS on avrg ( 2k monitor ). The only other issues i saw was, shadows flickering sometimes ( but this is not a big deal ), and sometimes textures poping up ( like a bad LOD ).
I have tried all possible nvidia settings but it didn't help

[kosturko92]

7 hours ago, ApolloX75 said:

 

Respectfully, I'm not saying you're wrong, but I think you're not comprehending the issue here or the question that is being asked.

 

I also don't agree with anything you've said. But anyways that's besides the point, you made your point well known in a decent form, I just don't think anything you're saying is actually going to fix the problem.

On to a possible fix: Have you ever updated the BIOS on that motherboard? I went through the Asus support page for it and it has to have almost a dozen updates to it. Every single one says "improves system performance" and "improves dram compatibility".

I think you should start there if you haven't already. If you have, well we can take that off the list.

 

I haven't updated the bios for 1 year now, the only update i applied was version 2301. 2 new versions came out but didn't have anything that i needed. The issue was present even before the update.
I can try out newest version, but can really BIOS update fix it ? ( every BIOS update is a risk of motherboard being bricked though, so i am generally avoiding to update unless i need to )

[ApolloX75]

23 minutes ago, kosturko92 said:

I haven't updated the bios for 1 year now, the only update i applied was version 2301. 2 new versions came out but didn't have anything that i needed. The issue was present even before the update.
I can try out newest version, but can really BIOS update fix it ? ( every BIOS update is a risk of motherboard being bricked though, so i am generally avoiding to update unless i need to )

I'd update it on the off chance. It's possible it can have that kind of effect and honestly at this point you might as well.

 

Bricking a motherboard with a BIOS update is extremely rare. Unless you randomly hit the power button mid update, you're not going to see it happen. 20 years ago? Sure, I could see it being a possibility, but now? I've updated literally hundreds of boards: GPUs, motherboards, sound cards even and I've never had one brick.

 

UEFI has made updating a BIOS so easy and fast there's really no way to screw it up unless you do it intentionally.

 

*Edit: Also, your motherboard has Crash free BIOS 3. You can literally flash it to whatever bios is compatible if it bricks for some wild out of left field reason while updating using a flash drive. They've made it fool proof.

[kosturko92]

5 minutes ago, ApolloX75 said:

I'd update it on the off chance. It's possible it can have that kind of effect and honestly at this point you might as well.

 

Bricking a motherboard with a BIOS update is extremely rare. Unless you randomly hit the power button mid update, you're not going to see it happen. 20 years ago? Sure, I could see it being a possibility, but now? I've updated literally hundreds of boards: GPUs, motherboards, sound cards even and I've never had one brick.

 

UEFI has made updating a BIOS so easy and fast there's really no way to screw it up unless you do it intentionally.

Sure i will give it a try, as you now mentioned, what about GPU Bios Update, i have never done that, is it worth trying to do that as well ? 
I got RTX 3070ti when it released, so it's about 1 year old.

[ApolloX75]

Just now, kosturko92 said:

Sure i will give it a try, as you now mentioned, what about GPU Bios Update, i have never done that, is it worth trying to do that as well ? 
I got RTX 3070ti when it released, so it's about 1 year old.

100% worth a shot to check. Just head over to the manufacturer website and take a look. If there's a firmware update, I'd do it. Let's eliminate every variable we can.