Im Boycotting Betas/Alphas...

[MxZeal]

TDLR : BETA RUINS THE EXPERIENCE OF THE TRUE GAME.

 

I don't know if anyone feels the same way as me, but when i get into a beta of a game im looking forward to i always turn it away.

I'm not sure i can explain why so you guys can understand but il try.

when ever i launch a beta game my first impressions are always good, but just because your enjoying the beginning of the game does not mean ANYTHING or should not change your opinion about any game.

For example : Diablo 3 beta.. i played over 100 hours in the diablo 3 beta which had nothing more then only an hour of gameplay, i was so excited for that game that i played the shit out of the start and when the game launched and i was progressing through the game, everytime i came to that area i felt like killing my self.

 

I got wildstar beta today, and wildstar is the only game im looking forward to this year.. (multiplayer) i installed the beta ran around for 10 minutes then logged off promising my self i would not continue through the beta..why you ask?

because WHAT IS THE POINT! first 15/25 or even 30 levels does not determine the game your testing ESPECIALLY AN MMO - look at ESO, the beta was reasonable (some say it was bad some say it was good) but the game turned out complete shit because of the incompetence of the devs and the huge bugs later on in the game.

Besides, the leveling part of the MMO is generally the least enjoyable (except for maybe the first or second time around) why would i do the starter zone of a character that im going to make again and have to play through AGAIN? spoiling the real enjoyment if being sucked into a game.

 

 

Every single beta game i played, i ended up hating or not playing it.

DayZ  - pissed me off so much my brain automatically denies the thought of playing it

Diablo 3  - Super hyped super fun first hour SHIT END GAME BORING REPLAYABILITY (those of you who are saying 2.0 is better, its not.. once u hit 1.1m dps which takes  a week or two ur finished)

Starbound - Loved the beta, but since there was barley any content i dont feel the urge to play the full complete game now because i have to do the same crap as i did in the beta. (i know thats what happens when u play a beta but i didnt really notice how it effects me later on until this game_

ESO - i fucking loved the beta, didn't buy the game.. thank god because they fucked up

Hearthstone - i played all of beta, when game launched and i had to start from scratch i stopped forever.

PoE - Played the beta for a whole year... love the game dumped over 400$ to help the devs.. have no desire to play it today.. (more of a burnout but i wish i did it during release instead of beta..)

 

there are many more examples.

Now, when i get into a beta im just going to run around for 5 minutes to get the feel for movement and combat.. BUT THATS IT.

otherwise i seem to burnout of cut off the enjoyment for release..

 

not to mention every youtuber seems to cover beta only and when people a year later look up the game the information is completely outdated..

 

Am i retarded? have massive ADHD or does anyone else feel the same about this beta/alpha crap as me?

enough is enough, im getting beta keys almost on a weekly basis now and its pissing me off.

[Guest]

just so you know in Wildstar you can reach to max level and do all of the endgame content

 

my only problem is early access stuff, "pay us to get it incomplete! *cough, actually the final product cough, cough* don't worry we'll finish it, oh you paid us already we don't have to finish anything for you suckers! dayz, rust etc.

[MxZeal]

just so you know in Widlstar you can reach to max level and do all of the endgame content

there is a level cap

[Cacao]

TotalBiscuit put it perfectly in one of his videos. Not gonna try and quote him or find it since I'm on my phone. Anyway I think betas are all fine and dandy as long as they are actually FREE and they actually serve the purpose of bug and server testing to make the final release better. I certainly don't agree with making you pay for half finished games.

[Guest]

there is a level cap

then that's new didn't use to be like that. I got to max level and did some raids.

[Polyvalent]

Titanfall should be on this list.

 

I fanboyed hard over the beta.  The actual game makes me want to cry.

[Grape Guild]

I wouldn't say this is a similar circumstance, but I was the same way with Minecraft.  I played at LEAST 1000 hours in the alpha/beta alone.  By the time the game was "officially" released, I had grown tired of the game entirely.  I'll play every once in a while in single player, but other then that, nothing.  Also, the minecraft community is too "little-kiddish" in my opinion. 

[Bluejay0]

HAWKEN

 

functioning Pay for Items / In-Game store

Game runs fine, maybe needs more variety in game mode

 

Next to logo? beta...

[MxZeal]

Titanfall should be on this list.

 

I fanboyed hard over the beta.  The actual game makes me want to cry.

thats true, i enjoyed the beta but didnt bother with the release after what i read on reviews n stuff

 

 

then that's new didn't use to be like that. I got to max level and did some raids.

well i guess i was wrong, but lot like i can hit cap when its my first weekend playing lol

[soulreaper]

Yep! I got suckered into WarZ by my friend. Had some good times in the early Alpha but around the time when it got the Steam greenlight many of the update's broke a lot of stuff.

[Blecter]

Any of the games I buy that are in Alpha/Beta I intentionally keep a grip on how much I play them. If you overplay them, then regardless of the game, you're going to be burned out when the full release comes.

I don't think playing Early releases ruin the game. I think overplayin does. Take a break, leave it for a while, then come back a while later and enjoy again.

[MzCatieB]

Boycotting Beta/Alpha's is like not tasting food while your cooking...

how do you know if its going to be good without tweaking it through out the process

[LogicalDrm]

In my opinion testing game in beta is same as testing it in demo in old days. You get somewhat good preview of what is coming. In good and bad ofc. But its still better than spending $60 to game just to discover that its not worth time or money.

[NICKT]

See, this is why I see the current days of gaming as so incredibly distasteful and horrible, you have people actively defending this kind of crap.

 

Betas and alpha's should not be played by the public, ever. Those are development stages, if at most you should hire people to test your game if you can't handle it in-house.

But hell, releasing it as a product for people to play? And remember, most of the people aren't actually bug-testing, and the big wigs at these companies know that.

You know what even makes it worse? It's become a selling point, the one thing that makes me feel so heated about this entire thing is when they release "beta access" if you buy before a certain date, or if you buy a bigger edition.

 

These stages are for testing purposes, but they've become nothing more than paid previews for a game and it's sick.

It's wrong, public alphas and betas are wrong, wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong and I absolutely believe there is no justification for it by any means.

 

/end rant

[Almercenary]

Don't pre order, don't buy into early access. The only betas you should really get into are te free ones. I mean, I thought of getting into the H1Z1 beta in a month, but what do you get? An unfinished game for full price.

This is why I never buy games in early access. I made the mistake of Beamng, which wasn't too bad, but still, wasn't finished. Now, if you really think about it, pre orders and pars early access is stupid. Minecraft is sort of an exception as it was really a full game before release, bu other than that, your paying full price for an unfinished product in both cases, and a product you know nothing about. The only game I would sorta except a pre order is a port that's already out like GTA 5 when/if it gets ported. But still, look at all the shit ports around. Still you don't know what the game is going to be like. That's why I don't see why people are putting so much money into star citizen. It's got less gameplay than anything else and people are putting 200 odd bucks into it. Kick starter also pisses me off but that's another rant for another topic.

[MxZeal]

Boycotting Beta/Alpha's is like not tasting food while your cooking...

how do you know if its going to be good without tweaking it through out the process

by being patient and seeing how people react.

and reviews and stuff.

[MzCatieB]

by being patient and seeing how people react.

and reviews and stuff.

By boycotting Alpha/Beta's you are more or less making the game worse.

If its free then go for it.

 

think of it like this, if Elders scrolls online Didn't do Alpha and Beta's it would be significantly worse than it is now

[Clarkey]

just so you know in Wildstar you can reach to max level and do all of the endgame content

 

my only problem is early access stuff, "pay us to get it incomplete! *cough, actually the final product cough, cough* don't worry we'll finish it, oh you paid us already we don't have to finish anything for you suckers! dayz, rust etc.

Dayz released because everyone was asking them too cant really fault them for that. As for finishing i think you are misinformed about how long games take to develop

[Guest]

Dayz released because everyone was asking them too cant really fault them for that. As for finishing i think you are misinformed about how long games take to develop

oh no I am very well aware how long it takes a game to develop, people pressured them to make a independent product? Fine, I bet no one pressured them to throw a price tag on it before it was finished. Also with all that money they made from charging for the alpha what did they not hire more help to get it out quicker? they certainly made more than enough in sales *the point of asking for the money in the first place* or at least keep their fanbase updated instead of nothing for weeks, release a patch, breaks the game, releases a patch, fixes a thing breaks other things.

[NICKT]

By boycotting Alpha/Beta's you are more or less making the game worse.

If its free then go for it.

 

think of it like this, if Elders scrolls online Didn't do Alpha and Beta's it would be significantly worse than it is now

 

You're not serious, right? Like, this is a joke, this is all just a stupid facade in a pointless base attempt at trolling, right?

 

You can't seriously imply that we are responsible for ensuring the quality of a game, right? That's ludicrous.

With all the money behind Elder Scrolls as a series, you can be sure as shit that they were more than capable of funding their own in-house beta testing and didn't need to sell the option to people.

 

You know what this is like? Ripping a baby out of your uterus six months before it's due to see if you'll like it or not, that's what you're suggesting. No, let the fucking womb do it's thing and we'll pay for the lazy little shit when it pops out.

[MzCatieB]

You're not serious, right? Like, this is a joke, this is all just a stupid facade in a pointless base attempt at trolling, right?

 

You can't seriously imply that we are responsible for ensuring the quality of a game, right? That's ludicrous.

With all the money behind Elder Scrolls as a series, you can be sure as shit that they were more than capable of funding their own in-house beta testing and didn't need to sell the option to people.

 

You know what this is like? Ripping a baby out of your uterus six months before it's due to see if you'll like it or not, that's what you're suggesting. No, let the fucking womb do it's thing and we'll pay for the lazy little shit when it pops out.

you right, that you right, cant actualy say that right, cause you know right, the job roll of a tester right, in industry right, is called right, quality assurance right.

Testing a game right, ensures quality right.

also right, im not saying right that all the elders scrolls right, are crap right.

Only the elders scrolls online right, is terrible right.

The project of elders scrolls online right, was a trailer with a game attached to it.

By the way, that's trolling

[Clarkey]

You're not serious, right? Like, this is a joke, this is all just a stupid facade in a pointless base attempt at trolling, right?

 

You can't seriously imply that we are responsible for ensuring the quality of a game, right? That's ludicrous.

With all the money behind Elder Scrolls as a series, you can be sure as shit that they were more than capable of funding their own in-house beta testing and didn't need to sell the option to people.

 

You know what this is like? Ripping a baby out of your uterus six months before it's due to see if you'll like it or not, that's what you're suggesting. No, let the fucking womb do it's thing and we'll pay for the lazy little shit when it pops out.

In house beta testing only gets you so far. Its way too small a subset of people to do any huge testing for rare bugs and glitches.

[NICKT]

you right, that you right, cant actualy say that right, cause you know right, the job roll of a tester right, in industry right, is called right, quality assurance right.

Testing a game right, ensures quality right.

also right, im not saying right that all the elders scrolls right, are crap right.

Only the elders scrolls online right, is terrible right.

The project of elders scrolls online right, was a trailer with a game attached to it.

By the way, that's trolling

Congratulations for one, not contributing anything but pure garbage on your behalf as a continuation of your argument.

Thank you for ignoring every single thing I mentioned aside from a couple of things which are completely irrelevant just so you could make a few snide remarks.

Take pride in being a retard, good job.

 

In house beta testing only gets you so far. Its way too small a subset of people to do any huge testing for rare bugs and glitches.

 

See, I could understand this, I could even stand behind it if it actually had any merit. Not that your statement is for naught, but more that we went decades without requiring public testing, and on the flipside, so many of the games I'm playing these days are unoptimized and filled with bugs and errors.

 

Plus, this also doesn't address a major issue I have with public betas and alphas, in that you have to pay to access them, whether it's direct or as a bonus feature in a package. This is something that developers used to pay people to do, now, you're paying them to do it for them? GG.

[MzCatieB]

Congratulations for one, not contributing anything but pure garbage on your behalf as a continuation of your argument.

Thank you for ignoring every single thing I mentioned aside from a couple of things which are completely irrelevant just so you could make a few snide remarks.

Take pride in being a retard, good job.

 

 

See, I could understand this, I could even stand behind it if it actually had any merit. Not that your statement is for naught, but more that we went decades without requiring public testing, and on the flipside, so many of the games I'm playing these days are unoptimized and filled with bugs and errors.

 

Plus, this also doesn't address a major issue I have with public betas and alphas, in that you have to pay to access them, whether it's direct or as a bonus feature in a package. This is something that developers used to pay people to do, now, you're paying them to do it for them? GG.

love your aggression, maybe we can get your a tshirt

[Clarkey]

 

 

Plus, this also doesn't address a major issue I have with public betas and alphas, in that you have to pay to access them, whether it's direct or as a bonus feature in a package. This is something that developers used to pay people to do, now, you're paying them to do it for them? GG.

Ok i will agree with you there. I will never pay to access a beta. To date the only game ive paid to access early is dayz.