860 EVO SSD not recognized after Win11 install.

[CPT_BEEMO]

Hello hello!

 

I made a mistake a few years back and installed my Win10 OS on my 860EVO SATA SSD instead of my NVME. I decided to upgrade to Win11 and I was going to fix the mistake and do a clean install onto the NVME. In the process of Win11 install I was successful formatting all my hard drives and getting windows 11 on the nvme however I've run into a pickle:

 

Whenever I boot up, the computer asks me if I want to boot into Win11 or Win10 as the Samsung SSD for some reason still has the old OS on it  even after i formatted the drives during the install. If i launch the create and format partitions function in win11, that drive is not showing up. If I boot into windows 10, it shows up as it is the C: drive. So I'm just wanting to format that hard drive and reinitialize it as mass storage on windows 11. I've tried a few things but to no avail, I can't seem to have much success.

 

If I run DISKPART in powershell on win11, the drive is not shown. I made some progress by disabling all boot drives in my BIOS except for my media creation USB tool for Win11. I booted onto the USB stick, went through the windows until I could see the list of drives to install windows on. Found the SSD there. Formatted it. But..... After the format I'm still able to boot into windows 10. Did the same thing over again by booting onto the USB stick and instead used powershell to run DISKPART. drive shows up, ran a clean and format, but after, it still has OS on it.

 

Alas, I come to the internet for help. Anything you can suggest that would allow me to wipe that drive would be awesome.

 

Thank you in advance!

[Origami Cactus]

Seems like you formatted a partition, not the whole drive. If you look in disk manager, when you install windows it creates about 3-4 different partitions, and especially the boot ones are hard to get rid of. I would install samsung disk software and try secure erasing the drive, that should get rid of all the partitions that are hard to remove.

[Thomas4]

There's a much easier way if you still have the install CD. Boot with it to first delete all of the partitions and reinstall - the deletion will take only milliseconds but then you lose the time with a Windows re-installation.

Now if you have 2 drives boot into Windows 11, go into disk manager and reformat the other drive, AFTER making sure your working on the correct drive, although you shouldn't be able to reformat the working drive. But Windows being Windows double and even triple check - remember these are the same people that thought Bob was a good ides.

 

You could also download and burn gParted onto a USB drive. Use this to boot to either delete the unwanted partitions, if you know which one(s) they are.

 

But quite honestly, nuke and pave, after recovering any personal data of course, and start anew.

[CPT_BEEMO]

1 hour ago, Origami Cactus said:

Seems like you formatted a partition, not the whole drive. If you look in disk manager, when you install windows it creates about 3-4 different partitions, and especially the boot ones are hard to get rid of. I would install samsung disk software and try secure erasing the drive, that should get rid of all the partitions that are hard to remove.

Cool I'll give that a try tonight! Thank you!

[kokosnh]

8 hours ago, CPT_BEEMO said:

If i launch the create and format partitions function in win11, that drive is not showing up.

MBR/GPT booting problem (legacy / UEFi)? 
Like you could run win 10 on MBR... I do it like that. Win 11 is GPT only.     

[CPT_BEEMO]

9 hours ago, Origami Cactus said:

Seems like you formatted a partition, not the whole drive. If you look in disk manager, when you install windows it creates about 3-4 different partitions, and especially the boot ones are hard to get rid of. I would install samsung disk software and try secure erasing the drive, that should get rid of all the partitions that are hard to remove.

So i downloaded Samsung Magician, and the drive does not even show up there. It sees my WD nvme drive but no samsung SATA drive.

 

I can still see the drive if I boot into the media creation stick, but not in win11 my any means.

 

I am going to try running cmd in powershell to convert the drive to a gpt drive and see if that helps.

[CPT_BEEMO]

4 hours ago, kokosnh said:

MBR/GPT booting problem (legacy / UEFi)? 
Like you could run win 10 on MBR... I do it like that. Win 11 is GPT only.     

Booted into the media tool, went into powershell:

 

DISKPART

LIST DISK

SELECT DISK 0

DETAIL DISK (to confirm I am working on the right drive)

CLEAN

CONVERT GPT

*SUCCESSFUL*

 

Still not showing in Win 11. Only shows my M.2 and my 2TB mass storage drive but still no SATA SSD. All volumes are deleted so it shows as unallocated space if i go through the hoops to select the drive to install windows on.

 

Im not sure if this is pertinent or not, but my BIOS sees the drive in sata configuration, I have also used secure erase to format it.

 

 

 

*UPDATE*

 

I found my SATA/IDE to USB adapter. Hooked the drive up to it via USB, it is now initialized and assigned a drive letter. Removed and reinstalled back into the tower, its gone.

 

Swapped from SATA port 1 to SATA port 3.... and its working.

[Origami Cactus]

4 hours ago, CPT_BEEMO said:

Booted into the media tool, went into powershell:

 

DISKPART

LIST DISK

SELECT DISK 0

DETAIL DISK (to confirm I am working on the right drive)

CLEAN

CONVERT GPT

*SUCCESSFUL*

 

Still not showing in Win 11. Only shows my M.2 and my 2TB mass storage drive but still no SATA SSD. All volumes are deleted so it shows as unallocated space if i go through the hoops to select the drive to install windows on.

 

Im not sure if this is pertinent or not, but my BIOS sees the drive in sata configuration, I have also used secure erase to format it.

 

 

 

*UPDATE*

 

I found my SATA/IDE to USB adapter. Hooked the drive up to it via USB, it is now initialized and assigned a drive letter. Removed and reinstalled back into the tower, its gone.

 

Swapped from SATA port 1 to SATA port 3.... and its working.

OOHHH.

Yeah some motherboards disable 1 or 2 sata slots when you connect an NVME drive into a specific M.2, it is usually marked in the manual.

But glad to hear that you got it to work finally.

[CPT_BEEMO]

7 hours ago, Origami Cactus said:

OOHHH.

Yeah some motherboards disable 1 or 2 sata slots when you connect an NVME drive into a specific M.2, it is usually marked in the manual.

But glad to hear that you got it to work finally.

That's really odd though because absolutely nothing hardwarw wise had changed aside from the OS. That same port and SSD had the OG windows 10 on it.

[kokosnh]

10 hours ago, Origami Cactus said:

Yeah some motherboards disable 1 or 2 sata slots when you connect an NVME drive into a specific M.2, it is usually marked in the manual.

 

I did looked yesterday on this motherboard manual, and in this one, it's not disabling any SATA if you plug the M.2.  
So that's not it. 

I would rather assume, it was the starting of the system without the SSD connected (and then connecting it via USB, after starting windows, what helped in this case )

[CPT_BEEMO]

On 10/26/2022 at 11:05 AM, kokosnh said:

I did looked yesterday on this motherboard manual, and in this one, it's not disabling any SATA if you plug the M.2.  
So that's not it. 

I would rather assume, it was the starting of the system without the SSD connected (and then connecting it via USB, after starting windows, what helped in this case )

Well thank you guys very much anyways for your help. I do appreciate it!!!