Need some help

[mark_cameron]

Ok, so one of me x3 Samsung S27D850T 27-Inch WQHD Monitor (Black) - (16:9, 1000:1, 350 cd/m², 2560 x 1440, 5 ms, HDMI/DisplayPort) which I ran in "PORTRAIT" in NVIDIA surround via Asus 980Ti SLI has essentially "died"

I suspect its a capacitor issue basically won't switch on, (came to it and it was off).

I have an ASUS RTX3080Ti ROG STRIX OC that I am about to install shortly, and will replace my SLI 980's.

What do I do?
I like my big panel, surround setup but I'm just not happy with what I've been quoted for in terms of an out of warranty repair by Samsung's UK agent.

I will use it for gaming and/or productivity. I intend to use one of the existing 27 inch panels in 'portrait' as side panel/reading panel maybe on a monitor arm.

I've seen the LG 42" C2 and so on that people have recommended for 4k (and for my primary panel I would like to upgrade to 4K as I know that the 3080Ti works better at higher resolutions) but I also want big panel for working area. What would people recommend I get?

I like the monitors Linus has been getting in his office, but want something named and that is reliable.

[mark_cameron]

That's a picture of my current setup (when I just moved into my new place and hadn't set my rig up)

 

Currently working on the two 1440p monitors.

 

But I need area it's what I'm used to. Interested in getting rid of the multi screen bezels

 

[mark_cameron]

Basically, would the LG C2 42" be good for my use case?
 

I think I want 4K. Single panel as my primary.
I have the desk space (its 2 meters in length the desk) and the depth of the C2 is less than my current monitors (one of which I might mount on a VESA)

 

If I purchased it would people think the C2 is a good idea for me?

[IPD]

27" (16:9) portrait is about 23.5" tall.  42" (16:9) is about 20.6" tall landscape.

 

http://displaywars.com/27-inch-16x9-vs-42-inch-16x9

[Stahlmann]

Normally i'd say the C2 is a great display and i use one myself. But as you say you also work on it, i wouldn't recommend OLED in your case. There are other options like the Gigabyte FV43U that aren't as good, but don't carry the risk of burn in.

[mark_cameron]

3 hours ago, Stahlmann said:

Normally i'd say the C2 is a great display and i use one myself. But as you say you also work on it, i wouldn't recommend OLED in your case. There are other options like the Gigabyte FV43U that aren't as good, but don't carry the risk of burn in.

I just cancelled my order (I ordered a LG C2 42" yesterday)

 

You're right, I cannot take the risk of having burn in, I play alot of strategy games with long periods of still imagery and/or because of productivity. I read this as well and he seems very reasonable in what he's saying. Particularly the final paragraph.

I'm now looking for alternatives LCD (?) or LED that matches the use pattern I will have.

 

42" 4K

I don't want Gigabyte. Looking for LG, Samsung or similar. Asus or comparable.

 

[mark_cameron]

3 hours ago, Stahlmann said:

Normally i'd say the C2 is a great display and i use one myself. But as you say you also work on it, i wouldn't recommend OLED in your case. There are other options like the Gigabyte FV43U that aren't as good, but don't carry the risk of burn in.

PS. I just realised - THATS YOU!!!  

 

 

[mark_cameron]

3 hours ago, Stahlmann said:

Normally i'd say the C2 is a great display and i use one myself. But as you say you also work on it, i wouldn't recommend OLED in your case. There are other options like the Gigabyte FV43U that aren't as good, but don't carry the risk of burn in.

@Stahlmann whats your views on that?

https://www.lg.com/uk/monitors/lg-43UN700

[Andrewtst]

1 hour ago, mark_cameron said:

@Stahlmann whats your views on that?

https://www.lg.com/uk/monitors/lg-43UN700

This is not a good monitor. It is only HDR 400 which is mediocre HDR performance, beside this it is only 60hz with very slow respond time.

 

By comparing with C2 you cancel which is top quality HDR performance with 120hz and great respond time.

[mark_cameron]

Just now, Andrewtst said:

This is not a good monitor. It is only HDR 400 which is mediocre HDR performance, beside this it is only 60hz with very slow respond time.

 

By comparing with C2 you cancel which is top quality HDR performance with 120hz and great respond time.

I've already discounted it.

I've almost.. almost pulled the trigger on https://www.gigabyte.com/Monitor/AORUS-FV43U#kf

But I was just looking at this https://www.samsung.com/uk/tvs/qled-tv/qn90a-43-inch-neo-qled-4k-smart-tv-qe43qn90aatxxu/

... its tough at this size and 4K there is not many options and many compromises.

OLED is just something I cannot risk. I cannot risk spending that level to have burn in, and my use case (productivity and strategy gaming) is high potential for burn in.

I need a large workhorse but that looks good. The Gigabyte 43" tries to do that

But I'm looking at all the options

[Stahlmann]

2 hours ago, mark_cameron said:

@Stahlmann whats your views on that?

https://www.lg.com/uk/monitors/lg-43UN700

As a work display seems fine. HDR is garbage-tier though. But for your gaming sessions i'd still look for something high refresh rate.

[mark_cameron]

2 minutes ago, Stahlmann said:

As a work display seems fine. HDR is garbage-tier though. But for your gaming sessions i'd still look for something high refresh rate.

From what I can see the Gigabyte FV43U you originally mentioned, at this size seems the best non OLED available.

Is that your view?

 

[SOOOO... many compromises have to be made, you're right OLED simply isn't worth the risk for me - as a TV yes, but not as a monitor at least not on what I've read]

[mark_cameron]

8 minutes ago, Stahlmann said:

As a work display seems fine. HDR is garbage-tier though. But for your gaming sessions i'd still look for something high refresh rate.

I looked at the ASUS offerings, and unfortunately the compared to the Gigabyte FV43U you mentioned you're talking almost double the price, to get the same size, refresh and so forth

e.g. https://rog.asus.com/uk/monitors/above-34-inches/rog-strix-xg43uq-model/

[Stahlmann]

28 minutes ago, mark_cameron said:

I looked at the ASUS offerings, and unfortunately the compared to the Gigabyte FV43U you mentioned you're talking almost double the price, to get the same size, refresh and so forth

e.g. https://rog.asus.com/uk/monitors/above-34-inches/rog-strix-xg43uq-model/

It also has a significantly better HDR implementation using a FALD backlight. But it's not worth twice as much imo. The Samsung QN90B 43" TV could also be an option.

[mark_cameron]

11 minutes ago, Stahlmann said:

It also has a significantly better HDR implementation using a FALD backlight. But it's not worth twice as much imo. The Samsung QN90B 43" TV could also be an option.

The Samsung QN90B 43" TV is stuck at 60 Hz

I'm pulling the trigger on the https://www.scan.co.uk/products/43-gigabyte-fv43u-4k-monitor-va-3840x2160-144hz-1ms-freesync-hdr1000-40001-1000cd-m-hdmi-dp

I can get it for GB £689.00 ex tax so can add things like an enhanced installation protection warranty etc with delivery on Saturday (around GB £730.00 all in)

From what I can see whilst it may not be a 'perfect' monitor it, compromises to try to do everything I need, its VA LED and/or gives decent enough performance with a good lifetime, without breaking the bank. If the QA isn't good I can go back to Scan (I purchased my ASUS 3080Ti from them). They're a reputable supplier.

This means I can buy a separate OLED 4K tv, for doing that. TV/media and so on
 

[Stahlmann]

44 minutes ago, mark_cameron said:

The Samsung QN90B 43" TV is stuck at 60 Hz

The QN90B is a 144Hz TV.

Samsung 43 QN90B QLED Review - RTINGS.com

 

But for optimal text clarity it should be used at 120Hz.

[mark_cameron]

24 minutes ago, Stahlmann said:

The QN90B is a 144Hz TV.

Samsung 43 QN90B QLED Review - RTINGS.com

 

But for optimal text clarity it should be used at 120Hz.

Sorry I meant the Samsung tv I was looking at.

They appear about the same give or take. I use DP 1.4 cables for my existing setup (certified 3 meter cables, i.e. certified to give a specific resolution at their length by DisplayPort) and intend to use the same now

That Samsung does not have display port only HDMI 2.1.

Plus the price GB£999.00 is around another £180 on top of what I've just paid for the Gigabyte

 

[Stahlmann]

2 minutes ago, mark_cameron said:

Sorry I meant the Samsung tv I was looking at.

They appear about the same give or take. I use DP 1.4 cables for my existing setup (certified 3 meter cables, i.e. certified to give a specific resolution at their length by DisplayPort) and intend to use the same now

That Samsung does not have display port only HDMI 2.1.

Plus the price GB£999.00 is around another £180 on top of what I've just paid for the Gigabyte

For the extra 180 you get proper HDR with 360 dimming zones compared to the 8 you get with the Gigabyte. Since you're already spending a considerable amount of money you might aswell get a good HDR experience. Still, you need HDMI 2.1 on your GPU to properly run it.

[mark_cameron]

12 minutes ago, Stahlmann said:

For the extra 180 you get proper HDR with 360 dimming zones compared to the 8 you get with the Gigabyte. Since you're already spending a considerable amount of money you might aswell get a good HDR experience. Still, you need HDMI 2.1 on your GPU to properly run it.

I'm going to stick with the Gigabyte

Looks like I'm going to need new cables.... oh boy.

Apparently Display Port 1.4 only supports 120 MHz at 4k without compromising.

Display Port 2.0 will go higher.

The good thing is using a single monitor, I'll only need one cable not THREE

[Stahlmann]

Just now, mark_cameron said:

I'm going to stick with the Gigabyte

Looks like I'm going to need new cables.... oh boy.

Apparently Display Port 1.4 only supports 120 MHz at 4k without compromising.

Display Port 2.0 will go higher.

The good thing is using a single monitor, I'll only need one cable not THREE

It's using DP 1.4 DSC to achieve full 4K 144Hz without chroma subsampling. You don't need a new cable, DSC just needs to be supported by both the GPU and the display. All GPUs since RDNA (AMD 5000 series) and Pascal (Nvidia 10-series) support DSC afaik.

[mark_cameron]

3 minutes ago, Stahlmann said:

It's using DP 1.4 DSC to achieve full 4K 144Hz without chroma subsampling. You don't need a new cable, DSC just needs to be supported by both the GPU and the display. All GPUs since RDNA (AMD 5000 series) and Pascal (Nvidia 10-series) support DSC afaik.

Ok, dude. I'll be using a RTX 3080Ti so that should be fine.

The cables I'm using are certified DP1.4 on https://www.displayport.org/

[Stahlmann]

9 minutes ago, mark_cameron said:

Ok, dude. I'll be using a RTX 3080Ti so that should be fine.

The cables I'm using are certified DP1.4 on https://www.displayport.org/

Then you should be fine.

[Andrewtst]

2 hours ago, mark_cameron said:

I've already discounted it.

I've almost.. almost pulled the trigger on https://www.gigabyte.com/Monitor/AORUS-FV43U#kf

But I was just looking at this https://www.samsung.com/uk/tvs/qled-tv/qn90a-43-inch-neo-qled-4k-smart-tv-qe43qn90aatxxu/

... its tough at this size and 4K there is not many options and many compromises.

OLED is just something I cannot risk. I cannot risk spending that level to have burn in, and my use case (productivity and strategy gaming) is high potential for burn in.

I need a large workhorse but that looks good. The Gigabyte 43" tries to do that

But I'm looking at all the options

Gigabyte AORUS-FV43U is not good for productivity also as it use BGR subpixel layout which isn't ideal for text clarity. Beside this the VA panel is not good for sharing, if you use productivity for your own then ok but sharing content is not that good.

 

https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/gigabyte/aorus-fv43u

[mark_cameron]

1 hour ago, Andrewtst said:

Gigabyte AORUS-FV43U is not good for productivity also as it use BGR subpixel layout which isn't ideal for text clarity. Beside this the VA panel is not good for sharing, if you use productivity for your own then ok but sharing content is not that good.

 

https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/gigabyte/aorus-fv43u

The only real alternative mentioned in this thread has the same (but actually worse score)

https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/samsung/43-qn90b-qled#page-verdict

I've got the Gigabyte on order n order arriving tomorrow

[mark_cameron]

Also needs to borne in mind, I'm retaining at least one of the Samsung S27D850T 27-Inch WQHD Monitor (Black) - (16:9, 1000:1, 350 cd/m², 2560 x 1440, 5 ms, HDMI/DisplayPort)

I'm intending to mount on a VESA arm mount, as a 'reading panel' 

So I think I'll be fine, I've read that there is adjustments that can be made per panel for text clarity (such as Windows ClearType)

From what I've read the BGR thing is common to all > 43" LED screens 

Having a separate 1440p screen as a side panel will help if I have any serious issues.