i7-4770k + AMD 6600XT for 1080p TV couch gaming?

[mystvean]

My old system was a i7-4770k (bought used after i5 4310?) on a H87 Asrock matx motherboard. With some value ram I guess with the a CM 650 PSU silver build in 2013. The i7 bought in 2018 quite cheap. The SSD, case has been recycled to my ryzen 5 work office. 

 

If I just buy a 6600XT, case and SSD. I guess that should be enough for 1080p gaming? Should I upgrade the motherboard, ram and PSU? A Biostar Z87 need motherboard is around a B550 motherboard. All current parts were working before I upgraded, but I think the motherboard and PSU may need to be replaced as it is almost a 9 years now even though it has been in stowage since 2021.

 

Not sure what is the refresh rate of my Haier 43" smart TV. The most demanding game I have is the Tomb raider collection, Batman collection and Dirt games. The bulk of my games are all lego games since I play with my SO.  Will place the pc behind the TV. 

[Hairless Monkey Boy]

6 minutes ago, mystvean said:

I guess that should be enough for 1080p gaming?

Yup.

6 minutes ago, mystvean said:

Should I upgrade the motherboard, ram and PSU?

Absolutely not. Maybe the PSU, but definitely don't spend money on a 10 year old motherboard and DDR3. If you were going to buy aa motherboard and RAM, it should be new replacements with a new, modern CPU.

6 minutes ago, mystvean said:

The most demanding game I have is the Tomb raider collection, Batman collection and Dirt games. The bulk of my games are all lego games since I play with my SO.

The newest Tomb Raider games might struggle, but the back catalogue, Batman games, and Lego games should run just fine.

[Mister Woof]

If the tv is 60hz it will be mostly fine, even new ganes

[mystvean]

4 hours ago, Shimmy Gummi said:

If the tv is 60hz it will be mostly fine, even new ganes

Thanks. I think it is 60 hz. 

5 hours ago, Hairless Monkey Boy said:

Yup.

Absolutely not. Maybe the PSU, but definitely don't spend money on a 10 year old motherboard and DDR3. If you were going to buy aa motherboard and RAM, it should be new replacements with a new, modern CPU.

The newest Tomb Raider games might struggle, but the back catalogue, Batman games, and Lego games should run just fine.

I see. Thanks. 

[mystvean]

19 hours ago, Hairless Monkey Boy said:

Yup.

Absolutely not. Maybe the PSU, but definitely don't spend money on a 10 year old motherboard and DDR3. If you were going to buy aa motherboard and RAM, it should be new replacements with a new, modern CPU.

The newest Tomb Raider games might struggle, but the back catalogue, Batman games, and Lego games should run just fine.

Forgot to ask, is it safe if I continue to use the original PSU? 

[Hairless Monkey Boy]

1 hour ago, mystvean said:

Forgot to ask, is it safe if I continue to use the original PSU? 

What's the make and model?

[Mister Woof]

It's a 160w TDP card; even doubled with a transient spike that's 320w + whatever else you got going on. Power-wise it should be more than fine.

 

As far as protections and age, a 9 year old PSU is probably worth replacing for peace of mind?

[mystvean]

On 7/1/2022 at 7:46 PM, Hairless Monkey Boy said:

What's the make and model?

Corsair cx650m IIRC. 

On 7/1/2022 at 10:29 PM, Shimmy Gummi said:

It's a 160w TDP card; even doubled with a transient spike that's 320w + whatever else you got going on. Power-wise it should be more than fine.

 

As far as protections and age, a 9 year old PSU is probably worth replacing for peace of mind?

It has not been in used since 2021. 

[Hairless Monkey Boy]

1 hour ago, mystvean said:

Corsair cx650m IIRC. 

Find out for sure.

[deltatux]

Core i7 4770k definitely should still be fine for many games for a while. Even on my old Core i5 3570k which powers my "console PC" can power most games I play at smooth framerates (though it struggles in CODBOCW as it is a poorly optimized game and Battlefield 2042). Though for CPUs this old, you will want to OC it to squeeze every last performance you can on such an old platform.

[Mister Woof]

On a side note, even at 60hz, I've noticed some differences between my 5ghz 8700k and i3-10105F (similar to 4770k, actually a tiny bit faster).

 

In some games there are scenarios where the i3-10105F will struggles in stutters whereas the 8700k is smooth. Specifically, this is in Days Gone. No matter how low I set graphics, loading towns and big zones stutters on the i3-10105F (to a degree, not game breaking, but noticeable.). GPU utilization in those times is sub 80%.

[deltatux]

13 minutes ago, Shimmy Gummi said:

On a side note, even at 60hz, I've noticed some differences between my 5ghz 8700k and i3-10105F (similar to 4770k, actually a tiny bit faster).

 

In some games there are scenarios where the i3-10105F will struggles in stutters whereas the 8700k is smooth. Specifically, this is in Days Gone. No matter how low I set graphics, loading towns and big zones stutters on the i3-10105F (to a degree, not game breaking, but noticeable.). GPU utilization in those times is sub 80%.

Some games are poorly optimized on the PC, for me it's CODBOCW. A Core i5 3570k has no issues giving full 60 fps on COD:MW 2019 on high settings but with CODBOCW, it can chug like crazy at the lowest settings (can dip under 30 fps at times) as the CPU maxes at 100% whereas on COD:MW 2019, it uses 80% CPU max. However on my main PC, that has a Ryzen 5 2600, there's no chug whatsoever. This may also be what you're experiencing with Days Gone, which the game may be more CPU bound and thrives on more core/threads.

[Mister Woof]

3 minutes ago, deltatux said:

Some games are poorly optimized on the PC, for me it's CODBOCW. A Core i5 3570k has no issues giving full 60 fps on COD:MW 2019 on high settings but with CODBOCW, it can chug like crazy at the lowest settings (can dip under 30 fps at times) as the CPU maxes at 100% whereas on COD:MW 2019, it uses 80% CPU max. However on my main PC, that has a Ryzen 5 2600, there's no chug whatsoever. This may also be what you're experiencing with Days Gone, which the game may be more CPU bound and thrives on more core/threads.

Sadly many games are just ports. Days Gone is one of them. It's not unplayable, but it does feel a little underwhelming on the 4 core. Big trend with console ports is just needing more resources to cover up for the porting, it seems. May even have some kind of DRM mucking it up, too.

[deltatux]

6 minutes ago, Shimmy Gummi said:

Sadly many games are just ports. Days Gone is one of them. It's not unplayable, but it does feel a little underwhelming on the 4 core. Big trend with console ports is just needing more resources to cover up for the porting, it seems. May even have some kind of DRM mucking it up, too.

Really depends on the port. For example, Halo Infinite, Forza Horizon 5, Call of Duty Modern Warfare 2019, Marvel's Guardians of the Galaxy, Rainbow Six Siege, Back 4 Blood and etc. all run very smooth at 60 fps on the Core i5 3570k. The only games that I've tried so far that struggles to maintain 60 fps on the Core i5 3570k so far is Call of Duty Black Ops Cold War and Battlefield 2042. I'm not too surprised at CODBOCW as Treyarch's games have traditionally been horribly optimized for PCs and no matter how much OC you throw at it, it stutters like crazy. Personally going to live with it until I upgrade my main rig to Ryzen 7000 and offload the older Ryzen 5 2600 to my "gaming console PC" and retire the Core i5 3570k.

[Mister Woof]

Just now, deltatux said:

Really depends on the port. For example, Halo Infinite, Forza Horizon 5, Call of Duty Modern Warfare 2019, Marvel's Guardians of the Galaxy, Rainbow Six Siege, Back 4 Blood and etc. all run very smooth at 60 fps on the Core i5 3570k. The only games that I've tried so far that struggles to maintain 60 fps on the Core i5 3570k so far is Call of Duty Black Ops Cold War and Battlefield 2042. I'm not too surprised at CODBOCW as Treyarch's games have traditionally been horribly optimized and no matter how much OC you throw at it, it stutters like crazy. Personally going to live with it until I upgrade my main rig to Ryzen 7000 and offload the older Ryzen 5 2600 to my "gaming console PC" and retire the Core i5 3570k.

Those are all mostly Xbox/multiplatform at launch.

 

A lot of shitty Playstation ports that came out 3 years later on PC are just bad. 

[deltatux]

Just now, Shimmy Gummi said:

Those are all mostly Xbox/multiplatform at launch.

 

A lot of shitty Playstation ports that came out 3 years later on PC are just bad. 

Maybe, I haven't gotten any Playstation launch titles so far, might give Spider-Man a try when that comes out on PC and see how it performs lol.

[Mick Naughty]

Even capped at 60 frames, that cpu will struggle with modern games and a decent card. Prolly ok for single player stuff.

[mystvean]

21 hours ago, Hairless Monkey Boy said:

Find out for sure.

Yes. This is the PSU. 

18 hours ago, deltatux said:

Core i7 4770k definitely should still be fine for many games for a while. Even on my old Core i5 3570k which powers my "console PC" can power most games I play at smooth framerates (though it struggles in CODBOCW as it is a poorly optimized game and Battlefield 2042). Though for CPUs this old, you will want to OC it to squeeze every last performance you can on such an old platform.

What GPU are you pairing this with? 

17 hours ago, Shimmy Gummi said:

On a side note, even at 60hz, I've noticed some differences between my 5ghz 8700k and i3-10105F (similar to 4770k, actually a tiny bit faster).

 

In some games there are scenarios where the i3-10105F will struggles in stutters whereas the 8700k is smooth. Specifically, this is in Days Gone. No matter how low I set graphics, loading towns and big zones stutters on the i3-10105F (to a degree, not game breaking, but noticeable.). GPU utilization in those times is sub 80%. 

What gpu was that? 

[deltatux]

1 hour ago, mystvean said:

What GPU are you pairing this with?

NVIDIA GeForce 2080 (yes, I know there's a mismatch right now, don't pair a 2080 with an Intel Core i5 3570k processor but I'm on track to upgrade this system later this year).

[Mister Woof]

6 hours ago, mystvean said:

Yes. This is the PSU. 

What GPU are you pairing this with? 

What gpu was that? 

RX 570 on the 10105f and 5700xt on the 8700k. Stutters happened on the 10105f/570 but GPU utilization dropped, so opretty sure it was CPU

[mystvean]

I see. So cores do matter now in gaming then.