Whats a good gaming motherboard that supports Intel 9th generation and has a PCI Express x16 4.0 for a RTX 3060

[MaxtheHusk]

Hello people! So I want to upgrade my motherboard since it is the only thing I have not upgraded from PC and its also kinda dragging the whole new setup down. Is there any motherboard that has a CPU socket for Intel`s 9th generation that also supports the new Nvidia RTX models with their GDDR6 memory? If yes, please tell me their names, as I intend buying one. Thanks! (for any additional details needed just ask)

 

 

My setup: Motherboard: Asrock H310 (https://www.asrock.com/mb/intel/h310m-hdv/index.asp)

                 Video card: ASUS Nvidia RTX 3060 12 GB 

                 CPU: Intel I9 9900K

                 PSU: Aqirys 650W

                 RAM: 16GB 2400 Mhz

[Middcore]

Intel 9th generation did not support PCIe 4.0.

 

A 3060 will work fine in a PCIe x16 3.0 slot. The type of VRAM in the card isn't particularly relevant. Obviously your H310 board is an anchor on the 9900k in other ways. 

[bmx6454]

afaik intel does not support pci 4.0 until 10th (oops, meant 11th) gen or later. the card will still work fine with 3.0, performance loss very minimal.

[da na]

Well PCIe 4.0 didn't exist when the 9000 series did So you won't find any boards that work with both AFAIK.

But it's a 3060. You'll lose no noticeable performance on a 3.0 system. Maybe 1%

[IkeaGnome]

A 3060 won't be bottlenecked by PCIE3.0. You'd be fine on your current build. 

[Mister Woof]

1 minute ago, bmx6454 said:

afaik intel does not support pci 4.0 until 10th gen or later. the card will still work fine with 3.0, performance loss very minimal.

11th

 

OP: as stated above, PCIE3.0 won't affect GPU's really that have a full x16 bus length and less performance than say, a 3090.

[MaxtheHusk]

4 minutes ago, Middcore said:

Intel 9th generation did not support PCIe 4.0.

 

A 3060 will work fine in a PCIe x16 3.0 slot. The type of VRAM in the card isn't particularly relevant. Obviously your H310 board is an anchor on the 9900k in other ways. 

Aight, but in this case is there any good gaming motherboard that would be better for my I9 than what a currently have?

[Mister Woof]

Well you'd likely want a super beefy B365 or a decent Z390.

 

B360 and Z370 will work, but they usually need a bios update.

But good luck finding them at reasonable condition/price; they'll likely be not worth it. Just keep what you got and throw some airflow over your VRMs and wait for a real upgrade.

 

 

[lewdicrous]

2 minutes ago, MaxtheHusk said:

Aight, but in this case is there any good gaming motherboard that would be better for my I9 than what a currently have?

What differentiates a 'normal' motherboard from a 'gaming' motherboard?

[jaslion]

4 minutes ago, MaxtheHusk said:

Aight, but in this case is there any good gaming motherboard that would be better for my I9 than what a currently have?

What the problem with the current board? Also gaming is a marketing term they don't game better than other boards.

 

I'm assuming lowered performance due to weak vrms is the issue?

 

What is your budget? Be prepared to look on the used market since the 300 series boards have been discontinued for a while

 

[MaxtheHusk]

3 minutes ago, jaslion said:

What the problem with the current board? Also gaming is a marketing term they don't game better than other boards.

 

I'm assuming lowered performance due to weak vrms is the issue?

 

What is your budget? Be prepared to look on the used market since the 300 series boards have been discontinued for a while

 

Yea its dragging the performance of the current build so I am trying to look to something better (if there is cuz if it aint Im sticking with this) and my budget is like 300-350 dollars.

[Mister Woof]

11 minutes ago, MaxtheHusk said:

Yea its dragging the performance of the current build so I am trying to look to something better (if there is cuz if it aint Im sticking with this) and my budget is like 300-350 dollars.

If you're in the USA, for $300-350 you're better off selling off your existing system and just buying

 

https://www.newegg.com/amd-ryzen-7-5700x-ryzen-7-5000-series/p/N82E16819113735?Description=5700x&cm_re=5700x-_-19-113-735-_-Product

 

+

 

https://www.newegg.com/msi-mpg-b550-gaming-plus/p/N82E16813144442?Description=b550&cm_re=b550-_-13-144-442-_-Product

 

for $390

 

Edit: that mobo is refubished. Don't buy refurbished shit from newegg.

 

For $420

 

https://www.newegg.com/gigabyte-b550-gaming-x-v2/p/N82E16813145255?Item=N82E16813145255&Description=b550&cm_re=b550-_-13-145-255-_-Product&quicklink=true

 

When you factor in the sale, you'll be out like $150 at most. And it's faster than the 9900k and has PCIE4.

[Middcore]

5 minutes ago, MaxtheHusk said:

Yea its dragging the performance of the current build so I am trying to look to something better (if there is cuz if it aint Im sticking with this) and my budget is like 300-350 dollars.

You could get on a modern platform or come very close for that amount. 

[MaxtheHusk]

13 minutes ago, Shimmy Gummi said:

If you're in the USA, for $300-350 you're better off selling off your existing system and just buying

 

https://www.newegg.com/amd-ryzen-7-5700x-ryzen-7-5000-series/p/N82E16819113735?Description=5700x&cm_re=5700x-_-19-113-735-_-Product

 

+

 

https://www.newegg.com/msi-mpg-b550-gaming-plus/p/N82E16813144442?Description=b550&cm_re=b550-_-13-144-442-_-Product

 

for $390

 

Edit: that mobo is refubished. Don't buy refurbished shit from newegg.

 

For $420

 

https://www.newegg.com/gigabyte-b550-gaming-x-v2/p/N82E16813145255?Item=N82E16813145255&Description=b550&cm_re=b550-_-13-145-255-_-Product&quicklink=true

 

When you factor in the sale, you'll be out like $150 at most. And it's faster than the 9900k and has PCIE4.

Yes that looks but its very recent since I upgraded my system I had a I5 8th gen, a GTX 1050 and a 450W PSU, so u see I dont really want to change again so qucikly but thanks for ur time and help!

[Mister Woof]

Could also go less expensive with a 12400 and a B660. It will be able to play all the games and doesn't even really limit the fastest graphics cards at realistic resolutions.

 

$170 i5-12400 (6 core)

https://www.amazon.com/Intel-i5-12400-Desktop-Processor-Cache/dp/B09NMPD8V2

 

$150 B660

https://www.amazon.com/MSI-B660-Motherboard-Intel-Socket/dp/B09PXGNVD3

 

= $320

 

OR substitute the i5-12400 with the same motherboard for:

 

$312 i7-12700F (8 P core + 4 E core)

https://www.amazon.com/Intel-i7-12700F-2-1GHz-6xxChipset-BX8071512700F/dp/B09NPJDPVG

 

= $462

[Mister Woof]

3 minutes ago, MaxtheHusk said:

Yes that looks but its very recent since I upgraded my system I had a I5 8th gen, a GTX 1050 and a 450W PSU, so u see I dont really want to change again so qucikly but thanks for ur time and help!

If you're set on staying, the Gigabye Z390 UD is decent for the money. $130.

 

https://www.newegg.com/gigabyte-lga-1151-z390-ud/p/N82E16813145095?Item=9SIARF6J2F6969&Description=z390 motherboard&cm_re=z390_motherboard-_-13-145-095-_-Product&quicklink=true

 

You should be able to get the most out of your 9900k with it.

 

My wife has a Z390M Gaming and it seems to have a worse VRM configuration than that, and it runs fine at stock.

 

Problem is these are all gonna be 3rd party sellers with iffy feedback since it's a legacy part.

[MaxtheHusk]

9 minutes ago, Shimmy Gummi said:

If you're set on staying, the Gigabye Z390 UD is decent for the money. $130.

 

https://www.newegg.com/gigabyte-lga-1151-z390-ud/p/N82E16813145095?Item=9SIARF6J2F6969&Description=z390 motherboard&cm_re=z390_motherboard-_-13-145-095-_-Product&quicklink=true

 

You should be able to get the most out of your 9900k with it.

 

My wife has a Z390M Gaming and it seems to have a worse VRM configuration than that, and it runs fine at stock.

 

Problem is these are all gonna be 3rd party sellers with iffy feedback since it's a legacy part.

Oh, yea also what if I wanna overclock the cpu a little? Cuz I tried it with my motherboard and it doesnt make it.

[Zando_]

42 minutes ago, Mel0nMan said:

But it's a 3060. You'll lose no noticeable performance on a 3.0 system. Maybe 1%

Yeah, you lose 1-3% with a 3090 on PCIe 3.0 x16, if you play at 1080p and have a CPU fast enough to keep up with the card at that resolution to begin with. A 3060 won't skip a beat. 

I'd assume the OP is confused because IIRC there is one PCIe 4.0 card from AMD that does run slower on 3.0, but that's because the engineers had an idiot moment and made it only have the contacts for x8 on the connector, so you can't put it in a PCIe 3.0 x16 slot to make up for the bandwidth difference. But that's a single card, to my knowledge all the other ones are fine, and Nvidia's full line is as well. 

[Mister Woof]

13 minutes ago, Zando_ said:

Yeah, you lose 1-3% with a 3090 on PCIe 3.0 x16, if you play at 1080p and have a CPU fast enough to keep up with the card at that resolution to begin with. A 3060 won't skip a beat. 

I'd assume the OP is confused because IIRC there is one PCIe 4.0 card from AMD that does run slower on 3.0, but that's because the engineers had an idiot moment and made it only have the contacts for x8 on the connector, so you can't put it in a PCIe 3.0 x16 slot to make up for the bandwidth difference. But that's a single card, to my knowledge all the other ones are fine, and Nvidia's full line is as well. 

Sad thing is I wouldn't put it past them to continue with this trend moving forward. All of the cards 6600XT and below are cut down PCIE buses. Even the RTX 3050 is a cut - it's a PCIE4x8 card. Only saving grace is that the 8gb cards have enough VRAM to not matter (for now). That being said, I can't recommend a PCIE3 system for anyone at any level. High end GPU buyers will want the full capability, and low-spec gamers might need it in the event they keep doing this cut down PCIE shit.

 

So, it might not affect a 3060, but say the guy upgrades to a 7600XT or RTX 4060 or whatever and it's an 8x card with 6800/3070-level performance. It would not be optimal on a PCIE3 system.

 

20 minutes ago, MaxtheHusk said:

Oh, yea also what if I wanna overclock the cpu a little? Cuz I tried it with my motherboard and it doesnt make it.

The UD should probably manage an overclock as long as your cooling is fine. I'd imagine 5ghz should be relatively easy to get. Just don't use auto OC features.

 

EDIT:

 

Yo, do you live near a Microcenter?

 

if you do...this is DAMN cheap and actually a worthy 11th gen part.

 

https://www.microcenter.com/product/633422/intel-core-i7-11700k-rocket-lake-36ghz-eight-core-lga-1200-boxed-processor-heatsink-not-included

 

$200, save $20 with a mobo combo. On par with a 5800x, has PCIE4.

[MaxtheHusk]

7 minutes ago, Shimmy Gummi said:

Sad thing is I wouldn't put it past them to continue with this trend moving forward. All of the cards 6600XT and below are cut down PCIE buses. Even the RTX 3050 is a cut - it's a PCIE4x8 card. Only saving grace is that the 8gb cards have enough VRAM to not matter (for now). That being said, I can't recommend a PCIE3 system for anyone at any level. High end GPU buyers will want the full capability, and low-spec gamers might need it in the event they keep doing this cut down PCIE shit.

 

So, it might not affect a 3060, but say the guy upgrades to a 7600XT or RTX 4060 or whatever and it's an 8x card with 6800/3070-level performance. It would not be optimal on a PCIE3 system.

 

The UD should probably manage an overclock as long as your cooling is fine. I'd imagine 5ghz should be relatively easy to get. Just don't use auto OC features.

Ummm why does it say it is used for cryptomining? Does this affect it with something or this like a second function on the UD?

[Middcore]

1 minute ago, MaxtheHusk said:

Ummm why does it say it is used for cryptomining? Does this affect it with something or this like a second function on the UD?

 

It's not a "function" at all. It's just trying to sell a bottom-of-the-barrel Z390 board by pointing out to miners it has lots of PCIe slots, which is all that they care about. 

[Mister Woof]

2 minutes ago, MaxtheHusk said:

Ummm why does it say it is used for cryptomining? Does this affect it with something or this like a second function on the UD?

Hmm not sure, might just be highlighting that it can? That's not in the normal product description, and like I said, iffy 3rd party sellers. Could be a custom BIOS or some shit.

 

Do you live near a microcenter?

[MaxtheHusk]

2 minutes ago, Middcore said:

 

It's not a "function" at all. It's just trying to sell a bottom-of-the-barrel Z390 board by pointing out to miners it has lots of PCIe slots, which is all that they care about. 

Ohhh k thanks

[MaxtheHusk]

2 minutes ago, Shimmy Gummi said:

Hmm not sure, might just be highlighting that it can? That's not in the normal product description, and like I said, iffy 3rd party sellers. Could be a custom BIOS or some shit.

 

Do you live near a microcenter?

No

[Mister Woof]

1 minute ago, MaxtheHusk said:

No

me either.