Someone help me!!! with Overclock

[Kanonreturn]

Hi guys,

 

I would like to raise the BCLK value more, currently I have it at 125 but when I lower the multiplier and raise the BCLK value, it crashes. I don't know, if it's because of something I've misconfigured or something I need to change, I want to have a BCLK value of 200 or 250 or 300, it doesn't matter if I have to lower the multiplier. How should I have it configured in the BIOS to have those values? of BCLK? In case you couldn't, because of the PC configuration I currently have. What component should I change and which one do you recommend for what I ask?

I currently have this PC:
- i9 10850K
- Asus PRIME Z490-A
- Hyperx 2x8GB 3200Mhz
- Be Quiet Loop 240mm
- Cooler Master m2 silent pro 1000w 

 

 

 

 

I don't want to get high frequency

I don't want to get high frequency

I don't want to get high frequency

[RONOTHAN##]

Why are you trying to crank the BCLK? That's just an overall terrible idea. The way you're supposed to overclock is use the multiplier first to get as high a frequency as you can with everything, and use the BCLK to get the last ~50MHz to get it stable. doing anything else is just a bad idea. 

 

 

[TrigrH]

Lmao at 1000mhz ram

[Middcore]

I am not an overclocker, consider it pretty pointless in 2022, and even I know futzing with BCLK is not how it's done these days (except on theoretically locked systems where you can't do anything else). 

[SkilledRebuilds]

35 minutes ago, Kanonreturn said:

Hi guys,

I want to have a BCLK value of 200 or 250 or 300.

- i9 10850K
- Asus PRIME Z490-A
- Hyperx 2x8GB 3200Mhz

 

I would like to raise the BCLK value more, currently I have it at 125 but when I lower the multiplier and raise the BCLK value, it crashes. I don't know, if it's because of something I've misconfigured or something I need to change,

!! WHY ARE YOU WANTING TO DO THIS AT ALL ANYWAY?,...lemme guess 5800X3D clockspeeds.

WHAT IS YOUR GOAL / ENDGAME???

 

PC's are not all the same....

This could literally be the worst thing you've ever done to your 10850K based PC.

[MrMcMuffinJr]

you should never have to even touch the base clock. AT ALL!!!!!! Heres my process terribly explained. get a benchmark too ie. cinebench and run it once at stock for a baseline. take note of score. go into bios and roughly  raise the multipler. I usually start with 500mhz. go back to cinebench. If it crashes, make note and increase the voltage. I usually go in increments of .025v. raising the voltage will make it more stable at a given frequency but more voltage means more heat. Overclocking is a balancing act to try and squeeze as high a frequency possible out of a CPU while also preventing a nuclear winter in the process. that terrible explanation will be $5

[Somerandomtechyboi]

Bloody hell do you guys have no idea that this is cpu strap and not the actual bclk? If it was actual bclk then trying to go over 103 = rip system, and actual bclk is usually reffered to as pcie freq

 

I guess bclk might help with cpu clocks for a given volt but that has only been proven on x79/99, though when der8auer was ocing a 12400 the volt did seem suspiciously low (1.3) for 5.24g on a trash bin cpu (131bclk), considering thats the kind of volt a 12900k needs for 5.3 p cores, not to mention the 12600 had lower bclk yet oced worse

 

If you wanna f around with bclk then go ahead no issues unless you f with the real bclk (pcie freq), only real issue would be stabilizing rams

[RONOTHAN##]

8 minutes ago, Somerandomtechyboi said:

Bloody hell do you guys have no idea that this is cpu strap and not the actual bclk? If it was actual bclk then trying to go over 103 = rip system, and actual bclk is usually reffered to as pcie freq

 

I guess bclk might help with cpu clocks for a given volt but that has only been proven on x79/99, though when der8auer was ocing a 12400 the volt did seem suspiciously low (1.3) for 5.24g on a trash bin cpu (131bclk), considering thats the kind of volt a 12900k needs for 5.3 p cores, not to mention the 12600 had lower bclk yet oced worse

 

If you wanna f around with bclk then go ahead no issues unless you f with the real bclk (pcie freq), only real issue would be stabilizing rams

Except they've lowered the multipliers to hell. It's not that they're touching the BCLK that's the issue, it's the fact that they're just trying to have it be as high as possible for literally no reason. 

[Kanonreturn]

The reason why I want to do this, is gaming.

1 hour ago, SkilledRebuilds said:

!! WHY ARE YOU WANTING TO DO THIS AT ALL ANYWAY?,...lemme guess 5800X3D clockspeeds.

WHAT IS YOUR GOAL / ENDGAME???

 

PC's are not all the same....

This could literally be the worst thing you've ever done to your 10850K based PC.

 

[Kanonreturn]

1 hour ago, RONOTHAN## said:

Why are you trying to crank the BCLK? That's just an overall terrible idea. The way you're supposed to overclock is use the multiplier first to get as high a frequency as you can with everything, and use the BCLK to get the last ~50MHz to get it stable. doing anything else is just a bad idea. 

 

 

I have seen that some have the value of 200 or 250 BCLK. But the reason is gaming

[Guest]

1 hour ago, Kanonreturn said:

Hi guys,

 

I would like to raise the BCLK value more, currently I have it at 125 but when I lower the multiplier and raise the BCLK value, it crashes. I don't know, if it's because of something I've misconfigured or something I need to change, I want to have a BCLK value of 200 or 250 or 300, it doesn't matter if I have to lower the multiplier. How should I have it configured in the BIOS to have those values? of BCLK? In case you couldn't, because of the PC configuration I currently have. What component should I change and which one do you recommend for what I ask?

I currently have this PC:
- i9 10850K
- Asus PRIME Z490-A
- Hyperx 2x8GB 3200Mhz
- Be Quiet Loop 240mm
- Cooler Master m2 silent pro 1000w 

 

Greatly reduce the cpu multiplier. X8 should do. Memory is ok for now, increase bclk.

 

However, you probably won't get a high cpu frequency from it. Just a bclk frequency show and tell.

[Kanonreturn]

2 minutes ago, Guest 5150 said:

Greatly reduce the cpu multiplier. X8 should do. Memory is ok for now, increase bclk.

 

However, you probably won't get a high cpu frequency from it. Just a bclk frequency show and tell.

I do not want to obtain a frequency of 50 or 51, it is enough for me that it is only 48 or 45, I only want the value of the BCLK to be 200 or 250, with a low multiplier so that I obtain a normal frequency.

[Guest]

This is only good up to a multiplier of 9.

 

380 bus clocks

 

 

[Guest]

Just now, Kanonreturn said:

I do not want to obtain a frequency of 50 or 51, it is enough for me that it is only 48 or 45, I only want the value of the BCLK to be 200 or 250, with a low multiplier so that I obtain a normal frequency.

My Hero has bclk presets  

[Kanonreturn]

2 minutes ago, Guest 5150 said:

This is only good up to a multiplier of 9.

 

380 bus clocks

 

 

What is your motherboard?

[Guest]

Just now, Kanonreturn said:

What is your motherboard?

Maximus Hero X

[Somerandomtechyboi]

7 minutes ago, Kanonreturn said:

I have seen that some have the value of 200 or 250 BCLK. But the reason is gaming

Now thats just plain stupid

 

In that case dont bother with bclk and leave at 100, if you can get cpu to clock higher for a certain volt with bclk then sure run ~130 but otherwise dont bother its just not worth it

 

Just cpu oc with vcore ~1.3 like 5.2/5.3 all core

[RONOTHAN##]

2 minutes ago, Kanonreturn said:

I have seen that some have the value of 200 or 250 BCLK. But the reason is gaming

And that has nothing to do with each other. BCLK has no direct effect on performance, the frequency the memory, cache, and core are what actually effects gaming. 

[Kanonreturn]

2 minutes ago, Somerandomtechyboi said:

Now thats just plain stupid

 

In that case dont bother with bclk and leave at 100, if you can get cpu to clock higher for a certain volt with bclk then sure run ~130 but otherwise dont bother its just not worth it

 

Just cpu oc with vcore ~1.3 like 5.2/5.3 all core

I don't want to get high frequency

[Blademaster91]

i'm not sure what games need a lower frequency but a 10850k should be able to easily get a 5.0-5.2 oc just from raising the multiplier and keeping voltage below 1.4v.

[Kanonreturn]

1 minute ago, Blademaster91 said:

i'm not sure what games need a lower frequency but a 10850k should be able to easily get a 5.0-5.2 oc just from raising the multiplier and keeping voltage below 1.4v.

I don't want to get high frequency

[Guest]

Just now, Kanonreturn said:

I don't want to get high frequency

You want to run a high bus speed because you're aware that you can. And you'd like to try it out.

 

That's all you need to say. 

 

I'll hit you up tomorrow with some bios settings. And I don't know if that Prime board will have all the settings you need.

[Kanonreturn]

Just now, Guest 5150 said:

You want to run a high bus speed because you're aware that you can. And you'd like to try it out.

 

That's all you need to say. 

 

I'll hit you up tomorrow with some bios settings. And I don't know if that Prime board will have all the settings you need.

Yes, I also think it may be the motherboard and I have to buy a top range

[RONOTHAN##]

5 minutes ago, Kanonreturn said:

I don't want to get high frequency

Then you need to do some research on what actually effects performance. BCLK is just a factor for the memory frequency, uncore (cache) frequency, and CPU frequency. It does not directly affect anything performance wise, it is just taken by the multipliers to result in the memory, uncore, and CPU frequencies. If you had 100BCLK and your final frequencies were 5GHz CPU, 4.7GHz uncore, and 3200MHz memory, it would perform identically in everything to 200BCLK with the multipliers changed so that it still resulted in 5GHz, 4.7GHz unclore, and 3200MHz. 

 

You have a very mixed up idea of what you're trying to do, you should clear the CMOS and actually look up what overclocking is before trying anything. You're system will perform better at stock than it will right now.

[Kanonreturn]

2 minutes ago, RONOTHAN## said:

Then you need to do some research on what actually effects performance. BCLK is just a factor for the memory frequency, uncore (cache) frequency, and CPU frequency. It does not directly affect anything performance wise, it is just taken by the multipliers to result in the memory, uncore, and CPU frequencies. If you had 100BCLK and your final frequencies were 5GHz CPU, 4.7GHz uncore, and 3200MHz memory, it would perform identically in everything to 200BCLK with the multipliers changed so that it still resulted in 5GHz, 4.7GHz unclore, and 3200MHz. 

 

You have a very mixed up idea of what you're trying to do, you should clear the CMOS and actually look up what overclocking is before trying anything. You're system will perform better at stock than it will right now.

If I know that it would be good to do the same on the example you just gave, only that in the case of the game right now, with 100 BLCK, the movements are slow and with 125 BLCK, I move faster, the lag times are shorter . For that reason I want to have 200 or 250 BCLK.