Bottlenecking GTX760

[Priller]

Ok...first of all these things dont work like the way u think...and who told u that at every point in the game gpu has to run at 99% then only cpu is not causing the bottleneck...at every point the requirement of the game is different....i can probably write a essay on how much wrong u r and u think...but there is no point here bcoz u already think here all the others are fools...so i m gonna carry on with my work...

 

It's useless arguing with FAA. He thinks he knows everything even though his own practical experience is limited, bases most of his info on everyone else benchmarks and will always make himself appear correct. This coming from a guy that cant even get through his own video about mounting an H-100I without stuttering over words and applying a "Fix" that was caused by incorrect installation to begin with.

[Faa]

 

you do know that that could be caused by your PSU right?

 

Especially a guy running a "huntkey" that's classified as firework units shouldn't be telling me I could have an issue with my psu. Your PSU is rated for 36 amps on the 12V rail which would make 430W which is even a multirail psu and comes with a single 6+2pin so you basically run it off an extra molex cable.

Here's a review claiming it explodes at 80% load of 430W: http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Huntkey-Green-Star-450-W-LW-6450SG-Power-Supply-Review/527/9

Here's a 36amp prove on 12V rail: http://www.overclock.net/t/1330708/huntkey-700w-apfc-gtx-660-help/0_100
 

anyway, try the latest Nvidia beta drivers they seem to split the utilization on the CPU a little better and also understand that SLI sucks ass for the time being, you would have been better off with a single card. I have never seen my FPS dip below 55 fps (vsync enabled) on WoW and it seems you are playing on a private server if those are 2x 780s since well yeah that's a SS of WoTLK and I personally with a single 680 on wrath never go below 60 fps maxed out with input latency reduction enabled (which reduces fps) on the WoTLK priv server I played on for the past 3 - 4 years

It's a lie that you never dip below 55 fps unless you never been in a main city which I wouldn't expect from a wow player. You're still not understanding that this game is mainly CPU bound. With your power supply, a 4.8GHz OC and a 680 its just impossible you're maximizing the gpu out to get what ever frames you claim.

[Guest]

Well, the 6300 is as much "trash" as the i3. Both are OK for budget gaming, they'll get you there, just not at i5 fps. But not a huge difference.

 

Get the 4430.

[Cryptonite]

 

 

 

Especially a guy running a "huntkey" that's classified as firework units shouldn't be telling me I could have an issue with my psu. Your PSU is rated for 36 amps on the 12V rail which would make 430W which is even a multirail psu and comes with a single 6+2pin so you basically run it off an extra molex cable.

Here's a review claiming it explodes at 80% load of 430W: http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Huntkey-Green-Star-450-W-LW-6450SG-Power-Supply-Review/527/9

Here's a 36amp prove on 12V rail: http://www.overclock.net/t/1330708/huntkey-700w-apfc-gtx-660-help/0_100

 

It's a lie that you never dip below 55 fps unless you never been in a main city which I wouldn't expect from a wow player. You're still not understanding that this game is mainly CPU bound. With your power supply, a 4.8GHz OC and a 680 its just impossible you're maximizing the gpu out to get what ever frames you claim.

 

I love how you linked me to a low end 430W PSU from huntkey instead of my actual PSU for the exploding factor not to mention that reviews are made on one product be it faulty or not, my PSU is giving me more than enough Juice to power my overclock (done on a biostar mobo which you'll probably bash in the next reply) . if you go by brand name you really do know a lot, you just proved your stupidity and therefore I will not reply to any further posts here. I will say this though: yes on WoW my 680 only runs on 850 mhz because that already produces 60 (in major cities) to 150 (no action) fps with ease. if you want to go about doing so much google searching a product, why not actually get one and test it out for yourself?

 

 

CPU bound. With your power supply, a 4.8GHz OC and a 680 its just impossible you're maximizing the gpu out to get what ever frames you claim.

 

the reason you see your GPU slacking on wow is because it isn't damn well GPU intensive so there's no need for it to go to full load (it's loaded all the textures and has room to spare ) WoW is as you yourself said CPU intensive and my i5 heck even a pal of mines i3 can handle WoW and yes I have been in crowded cities before I mean I've been playing since WoTLK release and just quit 2 months ago. I'm wondering if you're not maybe running windows 8?

 

 

Huntkey is an OEM/ODM, a quite large one actually.... and while they do sell a lot of low end, trashy stuff, they do make and sell excellent units also. Huntkey shouldn't be automatically dismissed.

 

 

+12 Volt continuous current rating of at least 36 Amps

[Faa]

It's useless arguing with FAA. He thinks he knows everything even though his own practical experience is limited, bases most of his info on everyone else benchmarks and will always make himself appear correct. 

Butthurt uh.

The discussion I had with him was about: if the gpu is below 99% is a cpu limitation or not. So here we have a guy making the same mistake as he did and that other guy pretty much agrees with what Ive said: http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/1469176-4K-Screen-VS-World-of-Warcraft?p=25754384&viewfull=1#post25754384

These guys here are on the same level as I am: www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/explain-gpu-usage-please.182823/

My limited practical experience.. Haha. Thought you were the guy claiming your 8350 at a suicide run of dunno 5.3GHz would outperform an i7 4770k around 4.4GHz? I have enough practical experience to make a claim that what you paid for your 8350+rog board+ 240mm aio (+500$) is complety a waste when a locked i5 with a cheap 40$ board outperforms your toaster in any cpu limited game which you don't want to face. Funny thing is you even paid more than an i7 build and in most games your 2nd 7950 investment is a complete waste since there's no gain anymore just like the vr-zone review clearly showed.

Like I said many times, do NOT add a 2nd card if you can't maximize a single card to its max (99%) or else you just get the same frames with the load being spread over two (eg 80% -> 40/40%) unless you want me to prove you this as well:

No gain in frames at all.

Many people make this mistake and complain they didnt see any improvements, doesnt surprise me. I've made such mistakes as well because you just cant find this out without trying which can be expensive since most people cant afford 2 high-end cards to play with and nobody would provide you this information, you'd be wondering how many times I returned a card because of cpu bottlenecks that wasn't making a SLI setup worth it. I returned a 670 the same day I bought it because I couldn't get consintently over 50/50% loads.

If you'd be wondering why I currently have 2 780's, it was just for BF4 because in the beta/release you couldn't have a stable 80 fps with a single 780 and BF4 taking advantage of 2 extra cores was just enough to fill 2 780's to 99%. Now that every GPU performs much better in BF4 compared to the release a 2nd 780 isn't even worth it for 1080p@120hz

Just because you hate me doesn't make me wrong or have limited practical experience. You wouldn't have said that if I never disagreed with you. Judging people's knowledge based on their personality is sad.

 

 This coming from a guy that cant even get through his own video about mounting an H-100I without stuttering over words and applying a "Fix" that was caused by incorrect installation to begin with.

Who lol?

 

 

 

I love how you linked me to a low end 430W PSU from huntkey instead of my actual PSU for the exploding factor not to mention that reviews are made on one product be it faulty or not, my PSU is giving me more than enough Juice to power my overclock (done on a biostar mobo which you'll probably bash in the next reply) . if you go by brand name you really do know a lot, you just proved your stupidity and therefore I will not reply to any further posts here. I will say this though: yes on WoW my 680 only runs on 850 mhz because that already produces 60 (in major cities) to 150 (no action) fps with ease. if you want to go about doing so much google searching a product, why not actually get one and test it out for yourself?

 

the reason you see your GPU slacking on wow is because it isn't damn well GPU intensive so there's no need for it to go to full load (it's loaded all the textures and has room to spare   ) WoW is as you yourself said GPU intensive and my i5 heck even a pal of mines i3 can handle WoW and yes I have been in crowded cities before I mean I've been playing since WoTLK release and just quit 2 months ago. I'm wondering if you're not maybe running windows 8?

I'm not going to respond to everything to this. Make a thread on the power supply section of the forum and ask for a proper power supply or ask quan he knows the most of psu's here to rate your current psu. Running a 680 with a molex connector is bad, the source the power comes from isn't even made for gpu's.

 

 

WoW is as you yourself said GPU intensive.

 

I never said WoW is gpu intensive. A game is either CPU bound or GPU bound, simple as that.

[Cryptonite]

I never said WoW is gpu intensive. A game is either CPU bound or GPU bound, simple as that.

 

you searched out the one mistype I made, I already fixed that mate, wow is CPU intensive (bound being another way of putting it which can be misperceived as all you need which is why people use the term intensive) meaning that if your CPU can't handle it your GPU will not pick up the slack for you, but that said it is not as intense as you claim it to be, that is the "improvements" brought to you by windows 8. a colleague of mine couldn't run NFS Rivals at a playable framerate until he reverted back to windows 7 (mind you he has a core 2 duo and GTX 550 Ti which further proves my claim in other topics that windows 8 hates low end hardware and just plain rapes atom laptops)

 

 

Edit: @Faa  just adding here that my PSU isn't running my GPU off of molex connectors, I have 4x 6+2 pin connectors on my PSU.

[Priller]

 

Butthurt uh.

The discussion I had with him was about: if the gpu is below 99% is a cpu limitation or not. So here we have a guy making the same mistake as he did and that other guy pretty much agrees with what Ive said: http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/1469176-4K-Screen-VS-World-of-Warcraft?p=25754384&viewfull=1#post25754384

These guys here are on the same level as I am: www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/explain-gpu-usage-please.182823/

My limited practical experience.. Haha. Thought you were the guy claiming your 8350 at a suicide run of dunno 5.3GHz would outperform an i7 4770k around 4.4GHz? I have enough practical experience to make a claim that what you paid for your 8350+rog board+ 240mm aio (+500$) is complety a waste when a locked i5 with a cheap 40$ board outperforms your toaster in any cpu limited game which you don't want to face. Funny thing is you even paid more than an i7 build and in most games your 2nd 7950 investment is a complete waste since there's no gain anymore just like the vr-zone review clearly showed.

Like I said many times, do NOT add a 2nd card if you can't maximize a single card to its max (99%) or else you just get the same frames with the load being spread over two (eg 80% -> 40/40%) unless you want me to prove you this as well:

No gain in frames at all.

Many people make this mistake and complain they didnt see any improvements, doesnt surprise me. I've made such mistakes as well because you just cant find this out without trying which can be expensive since most people cant afford 2 high-end cards to play with and nobody would provide you this information, you'd be wondering how many times I returned a card because of cpu bottlenecks that wasn't making a SLI setup worth it. I returned a 670 the same day I bought it because I couldn't get consintently over 50/50% loads.

If you'd be wondering why I currently have 2 780's, it was just for BF4 because in the beta/release you couldn't have a stable 80 fps with a single 780 and BF4 taking advantage of 2 extra cores was just enough to fill 2 780's to 99%. Now that every GPU performs much better in BF4 compared to the release a 2nd 780 isn't even worth it for 1080p@120hz

Just because you hate me doesn't make me wrong or have limited practical experience. You wouldn't have said that if I never disagreed with you. Judging people's knowledge based on their personality is sad.

 

Who lol?

 

 

I had my 8350 well before the haswells so price cant really be compared because how can you compare about a year of solid performance. Ya dont.

 

I dont have an ROG board or an AIO cooler.

 

5.3 isnt a suicide run. I've been at that speed several times and have gone higher.

 

I paid less for BOTH of my 7950s then what a single 780 costs and it gets twice the FPS in BF4 then both of your 780s it appears. I average 100-120 FPS in 64 man servers. A reviewer over on Hardforum can confirm about the 7950 and @bamerx98 can confirm my FPS in BF4.

 

These are cold hard facts that I and others can prove. No need to take anyones word for it.

 

Mean while you should go fix your stuff because my "2008 IPC" cheap AMD rig with used gpus is kicking the crap out of your loved Intel cpu and 1K worth of 780s. 

 

You asked who? YOU.

 

The backplate is kinda garbage on the H80i. I kinda covered a fix and explained everything in this thread http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/140853-asus-rmashould-i-buy-another-board/#entry1880239 and it surprisingly made a huge difference for him

 

 

That links to:

 

I remember I've always had 96° with a 2600K@5GHz which is around 180-200W and my 3930K@1800John-200W just runs at 60-70° because theres no backplate for a 2011 where the H100i has really a very tight fit.

 

 

Learn how to do something simple like cable manage and install an H-100 before you start thinking you know everything.

[bamerx98]

I had my 8350 well before the haswells so price cant really be compared because how can you compare about a year of solid performance. Ya dont.

 

I dont have an ROG board or an AIO cooler.

 

5.3 isnt a suicide run. I've been at that speed several times and have gone higher.

 

I paid less for BOTH of my 7950s then what a single 780 costs and it gets twice the FPS in BF4 then both of your 780s it appears. I average 100-120 FPS in 64 man servers. A reviewer over on Hardforum can confirm about the 7950 and @bamerx98 can confirm my FPS in BF4.

 

These are cold hard facts that I and others can prove. No need to take anyones word for it.

 

Mean while you should go fix your stuff because my "2008 IPC" cheap AMD rig with used gpus is kicking the crap out of your loved Intel cpu and 1K worth of 780s. 

 

You asked who? YOU.

 

 

 

That links to:

 

 

 

Learn how to do something simple like cable manage and install an H-100 before you start thinking you know everything.

Something is fucked with your 780s because I have a friend running a 8350 @ stock speeds and one 780 and gets wayy better proformance in battlefield 4 then you and Prillers results with his 7950 are true

[Cryptonite]

I had my 8350 well before the haswells so price cant really be compared because how can you compare about a year of solid performance. Ya dont.

 

I dont have an ROG board or an AIO cooler.

 

5.3 isnt a suicide run. I've been at that speed several times and have gone higher.

 

I paid less for BOTH of my 7950s then what a single 780 costs and it gets twice the FPS in BF4 then both of your 780s it appears. I average 100-120 FPS in 64 man servers. A reviewer over on Hardforum can confirm about the 7950 and @bamerx98 can confirm my FPS in BF4.

 

These are cold hard facts that I and others can prove. No need to take anyones word for it.

 

Mean while you should go fix your stuff because my "2008 IPC" cheap AMD rig with used gpus is kicking the crap out of your loved Intel cpu and 1K worth of 780s. 

 

You asked who? YOU.

 

 

 

That links to:

 

 

 

Learn how to do something simple like cable manage and install an H-100 before you start thinking you know everything.

nevermind seems he changed his PSU at least.

[Priller]

Something is fucked with your 780s because I have a friend running a 8350 @ stock speeds and one 780 and gets wayy better proformance in battlefield 4 then you and Prillers results with his 7950 are true

 

Is this the point where I should say I get 100-120 FPS with my used 7950s but I dont run on a single monitor and instead play at 5760x1080..... lol

[Faa]

I had my 8350 well before the haswells so price cant really be compared because how can you compare about a year of solid performance. Ya dont.

 

Sandy bridge did already outperform them so your point is invalid.

 

5.3 isnt a suicide run. I've been at that speed several times and have gone higher.

 

That's sad, if you claim your 8350 would outperform a 4770K@4.4GHz and you still lose by 10-15%

 

I paid less for BOTH of my 7950s then what a single 780 costs and it gets twice the FPS in BF4 then both of your 780s it appears. I average 100-120 FPS in 64 man servers. A reviewer over on Hardforum can confirm about the 7950 and @bamerx98 can confirm my FPS in BF4.

 

How much you really paid isn't really that convincing over the net. And no your cpu isn't capable of feeding a single 7970 at 99%. This video shows a 7970 hardly going over 40 fps with 80% load with a 8350@4.8GHz: youtube.com/watch?v=nOFlUqthWOM

If you're interested in my frames in BF4 well I'm capped at 200 with 50/50% loads so you're nowhere close to my performance and your 8350 is a bottleneck @ 4.8GHz for 2 670's in SLI: youtube.com/watch?v=BrUpDUkSX7g

Video recorded somewhere end march, has all the gpu performance updates and a 760 in SLI is still faster than a single 780 thats able to provide 100-140 fps consintently definitely means the 8350@4.8GHz is holding back. Stop claiming you have 120 fps with 2 7950's at 5760x1080 with ultra settings.

 

Mean while you should go fix your stuff because my "2008 IPC" cheap AMD rig with used gpus is kicking the crap out of your loved Intel cpu and 1K worth of 780s. 

 

You hardly see the difference between BF3 & BF4. Says enough how ignorant you are or even retarded.

You asked who? YOU.

That links to:

Learn how to do something simple like cable manage and install an H-100 before you start thinking you know everything.

Rofl you're so paranoid. That video isn't mine you fool. Are you stalking me or what that you came up with this? This is my youtube channel: https://www.youtube.com/user/Faithhh071

 

 

Something is fucked with your 780s because I have a friend running a 8350 @ stock speeds and one 780 and gets wayy better proformance in battlefield 4 then you and Prillers results with his 7950 are true

It's BF3, not BF4. My BF4 results are in this post: http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/141036-bottlenecking-gtx760/page-2#entry1903904

I didn't use BF4 because it's mainly gpu limited

[Faa]

Is this the point where I should say I get 100-120 FPS with my used 7950s but I dont run on a single monitor and instead play at 5760x1080..... lol

Not true.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJALX4dTt7M

2 7950's in crossfire below 90 fps and apparently you're going above 100 fps at 5760x1080? Lets have a laugh.

 

 

nevermind seems he changed his PSU at least.

Like I said, I'm not that guy in the video. He's just being paranoid for some reasons

Someone here had an overheating issue with a H100i, I found this video that makes the backplate more secured and linked it him. Apparently he thinks I'm that guy.

[Priller]

 

Sandy bridge did already outperform them so your point is invalid.

 

 

 

That's sad, if you claim your 8350 would outperform a 4770K@4.4GHz and you still lose by 10-15%

 

 

 

How much you really paid isn't really that convincing over the net. And no your cpu isn't capable of feeding a single 7970 at 99%. This video shows a 7970 hardly going over 40 fps with 80% load with a 8350@4.8GHz: youtube.com/watch?v=nOFlUqthWOM

If you're interested in my frames in BF4 well I'm capped at 200 with 50/50% loads so you're nowhere close to my performance and your 8350 is a bottleneck @ 4.8GHz for 2 670's in SLI: youtube.com/watch?v=BrUpDUkSX7g

Video recorded somewhere end march, has all the gpu performance updates and a 760 in SLI is still faster than a single 780 thats able to provide 100-140 fps consintently definitely means the 8350@4.8GHz is holding back. Stop claiming you have 120 fps with 2 7950's at 5760x1080 with ultra settings.

 

 

 

You hardly see the difference between BF3 & BF4. Says enough how ignorant you are or even retarded.

 

Rofl you're so paranoid. That video isn't mine you fool. Are you stalking me or what that you came up with this? This is my youtube channel: https://www.youtube.com/user/Faithhh071

 

 

It's BF3, not BF4. My BF4 results are in this post: http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/141036-bottlenecking-gtx760/page-2#entry1903904

I didn't use BF4 because it's mainly gpu limited

 

 

ROFL. 

 

Haswell is what 10% faster yet I am only 9.756 % behind a 4770K. Not 15%. Not bad for 2008 IPC. lol

 

Well if you are only seeing 50% on both GPUs then your CPU is clearly a bottleneck... Isn't that what u try to say earlier....

 

200FPS on a single monitor. Cool. I still play at 3 times the resolution.

 

Claiming. I am confirming it and so did @bamerx98. Just because you choose not to believe it does not make it true and I have been doing if for quite some time.

 

As far as the video. You said that "I kinda" covered the fix. So are you now claiming it isnt your video and you were instead trying to steal or use someone elses material as your own?

[Priller]

 

Not true.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJALX4dTt7M

2 7950's in crossfire below 90 fps and apparently you're going above 100 fps at 5760x1080? Lets have a laugh.

 

 

Like I said, I'm not that guy in the video. He's just being paranoid for some reasons

Someone here had an overheating issue with a H100i, I found this video that makes the backplate more secured and linked it him. Apparently he thinks I'm that guy.

 

 

That video was posted on Jan 2nd, 2014. Several Optimization patches included one with Naval strike DLC came out afterwords. Naval Strike was released April 8th, 2014.

 

Nice try though. Unfortunately you have been found to not know what you are talking about again...

[Faa]

ROFL. 

 

Haswell is what 10% faster yet I am only 9.756 % behind a 4770K. Not 15%. Not bad for 2008 IPC. lol

 

A Haswell at 4.4GHz is equal to a 2600K@4.9GHz. No valid point again and laughing on your own is sad

 

Well if you are only seeing 50% on both GPUs then your CPU is clearly a bottleneck... Isn't that what u try to say earlier....

 

Yeah your cpu is atleast 100% slower: http://assets.vr-zone.net/17494/sleepingdogs.jpg

Not only VR-zone backs this up, the video i showed you with a single 7970 in strike at karkand he couldnt keep a 7970 above 80% and thats indoor only with a 8350@4.8GHz

Ive know a lot of players who had to play that map on low settings to still manage to have more frames than 60 with 8350's. Since we notice that the game doesnt take any advantage of more than 4 cores, yeah pretty much sums it up how bad your cpu is

 

Claiming. I am confirming it and so did @bamerx98. Just because you choose not to believe it does not make it true and I have been doing if for quite some time.

 

Prove it then with some gameplay. Scoping in and waiting to fire a shot on someone's head isn't intensive

That it's a bottleneck for 2 760's is known already as I proved it.

 

As far as the video. You said that "I kinda" covered the fix. So are you now claiming it isnt your video and you were instead trying to steal or use someone elses material as your own?

 

It isn't me. You're so stupid and paranoid and you totally lost your control. This is my channel: youtube.com/watch?v=lzEyuV26NqE - check the description on that video and it will link you to my profile and you'd see my system specs. 

Read the description; this pretty sums it up from who it comes

youtube.com/watch?v=hcOhlBVVj24 - @03:50 pretty much the same position I used for my BF3 screens earlier

I linked that video to a guy who had an overheating issue with his 3770K, I'm aware of the backplate issues and many people don't realize it so I linked him this video that I've seen earlier. I never said it's my fix or my video.

 

 

That video was posted on Jan 2nd, 2014. Several Optimization patches included one with Naval strike DLC came out afterwords. Naval Strike was released April 8th, 2014.

 

Nice try though. Unfortunately you have been found to not know what you are talking about again...

Tell me where he goes above 80 fps. Posted end march. Flat out bottleneck. Like I said earlier, 2 760's are a bit better than a single 780 and if you'd look at my BF4 screenshot ( I had a 200 fps cap with both 780's sitting at 50% that would mean a 780 at 99% giving 200 fps. Meaning my cpu is like 130% faster than a 8350 clocked at nearly 5GHz. If there wasn't an fps cap it would have turned there in the screenshot above 300 fps easily.

So far you haven't done anything else than spreading misinformation and being more of an idiot imo. Not even noticing the difference between BF3 & BF4 was hilarious and your 120 fps claim with 5760x1080 at ultra settings with 4x AA is complety dumb. Or even saying 2 7950's outperform 2 780's and a 8350 that outperforms a 3930K, then thinking for some reasons a random video I posted thats being me is kinda enough to get an idea how really stupid you are.

[Priller]

 

A Haswell at 4.4GHz is equal to a 2600K@4.9GHz. No valid point again and laughing on your own is sad

 

 

Yeah your cpu is atleast 100% slower: http://assets.vr-zone.net/17494/sleepingdogs.jpg

Not only VR-zone backs this up, the video i showed you with a single 7970 in strike at karkand he couldnt keep a 7970 above 80% and thats indoor only with a 8350@4.8GHz

Ive know a lot of players who had to play that map on low settings to still manage to have more frames than 60 with 8350's. Since we notice that the game doesnt take any advantage of more than 4 cores, yeah pretty much sums it up how bad your cpu is

 

 

Prove it then with some gameplay. Scoping in and waiting to fire a shot on someone's head isn't intensive

That it's a bottleneck for 2 760's is known already as I proved it.

 

 

It isn't me. You're so stupid and paranoid and you totally lost your control. This is my channel: youtube.com/watch?v=lzEyuV26NqE - check the description on that video and it will link you to my profile and you'd see my system specs. 

Read the description; this pretty sums it up from who it comes

youtube.com/watch?v=hcOhlBVVj24 - @03:50 pretty much the same position I used for my BF3 screens earlier

I linked that video to a guy who had an overheating issue with his 3770K, I'm aware of the backplate issues and many people don't realize it so I linked him this video that I've seen earlier. I never said it's my fix or my video.

 

 

Tell me where he goes above 80 fps. Posted end march. Flat out bottleneck. Like I said earlier, 2 760's are a bit better than a single 780 and if you'd look at my BF4 screenshot ( I had a 200 fps cap with both 780's sitting at 50% that would mean a 780 at 99% giving 200 fps. Meaning my cpu is like 130% faster than a 8350 clocked at nearly 5GHz. If there wasn't an fps cap it would have turned there in the screenshot above 300 fps easily.

So far you haven't done anything else than spreading misinformation and being more of an idiot imo. Not even noticing the difference between BF3 & BF4 was hilarious and your 120 fps claim with 5760x1080 at ultra settings with 4x AA is complety dumb. Or even saying 2 7950's outperform 2 780's and a 8350 that outperforms a 3930K, then thinking for some reasons a random video I posted thats being me is kinda enough to get an idea how really stupid you are.

 

 

a 2600K at  4.8Ghz puts up 834 which is about the same as an 8350 at 5.2ghz.

 

My CPU is 100% slower.. 100% in a sleeping dogs test that is probably older then the crossfire test you tried to post earlier as valid... Nice try making yourself look correct with old information that isnt accurate as of today.

 

Well why dont you get all of those players you know that play BF4 to come in here and speak up? So far I am the only one here that has backup that what I am saying is correct.  What is happening is those players are most likely just as dumb as you and dont know what they are doing and getting low FPS because of it.

 

We arent talking about 760s. I am talking about 7950s. 

 

So with all of that rambling about your 780s at X% do you really think that if one 780 is 100FPS that 2 780s will give you 200 FPS? That is what you are saying and everyone knows and every benchmark ever done has shown that SLI and Crossfire simple dont scale that way. 

 

As far as the last sentence. Where did I say 4xx? You trying to say I said something when I didnt??? I gave a CPU, GPUs, and resolution. I said nothing about AA.

 

To go back to this video thing:

 

The backplate is kinda garbage on the H80i. I kinda covered a fix and explained everything in this thread http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/140853-asus-rmashould-i-buy-another-board/#entry1880239 and it surprisingly made a huge difference for him

 

 

That links to:

 

I remember I've always had 96° with a 2600K@5GHz which is around 180-200W and my 3930K@1800John-200W just runs at 60-70° because theres no backplate for a 2011 where the H100i has really a very tight fit.

 

 

So you say in your own post: I kinda covered a fix and explained everything in this thread

 

Which has a video in it. One would assume that it would be your video since in your own post you effectively claimed ownership by saying that YOU covered a fixed that gave a redirect to a thread with a video that YOU put in. 

 

Since you have proven to be dishonest and willing to claim other peoples work there is no reason for anyone to trust anything you say. I have people that know what I get for FPS in my entire BF4 clan. You, you have no one. You have old benchmarks that mean nothing today and it's only purpose is to go with what you are saying. You are the one that is spreading misinformation by spreading information that is outdated and thus no longer valid. 

[Cryptonite]

This is basically just a flame war now. @LinusTech @Slick

[Faa]

a 2600K at  4.8Ghz puts up 834 which is about the same as an 8350 at 5.2ghz.

 

My CPU is 100% slower.. 100% in a sleeping dogs test that is probably older then the crossfire test you tried to post earlier as valid... Nice try making yourself look correct with old information that isnt accurate as of today.

Yeah it's IPC is 100% slower. Hopla another source http://www.pcgameshardware.de/screenshots/original/2013/09/SC2HotS-pcgh.png

 

 

Well why dont you get all of those players you know that play BF4 to come in here and speak up? So far I am the only one here that has backup that what I am saying is correct.  What is happening is those players are most likely just as dumb as you and dont know what they are doing and getting low FPS because of it.

 

I gave you a video that proved it.

 

We arent talking about 760s. I am talking about 7950s. 

 

760's are not capable of 120 fps at 3x1080p, definitely 7950 aint either.

 

 

So with all of that rambling about your 780s at X% do you really think that if one 780 is 100FPS that 2 780s will give you 200 FPS? That is what you are saying and everyone knows and every benchmark ever down has shown that SLI and Crossfire simple dont scale that way. 

 

Thats covered in this post and keep an eye on the gpu loads: http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/141036-bottlenecking-gtx760/page-2#entry1903904

2 780's at 50/50% would be a single 780@99% which was covered here: http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/141036-bottlenecking-gtx760/page-2#entry1905393

 

 

So you say in your own post: I kinda covered a fix and explained everything in this thread

 

 

Seems to be normal. Ive used lga1155 as well and H100i's and trust me the backplate is complety garbage. People did add some washers and they gained like a 15° gain. It's just so loose that you won't have a tight fit. Just screw the screws loose till, apply lots of pressure to the backplate and screw it back. And stop using Arctic silver 5, I've always had overheating issues with it on H100i's its just too thin and the pressure isn't that enough for it on 1155.

http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/140853-asus-rmashould-i-buy-another-board/#entry1883069

Clearly not saying I've done that mod otherwise I wouldn't be talking in 3rd person. 

Do you want me to make a picture of my hands since that guy has big birthmark, put a sheet of paper with Faa written next to my hands to prove im not that guy in your delusional world?

 

 

Since you have proven to be dishonest and willing to claim other peoples work there is no reason for anyone to trust anything you say. I have people that know what I get for FPS in my entire BF4 clan. You, you have no one. You have old benchmarks that mean nothing today and it's only purpose is to go with what you are saying. You are the one that is spreading misinformation by spreading information that is outdated and thus no longer valid. 

You talk so much crap really. You're hardly making sense. Apparently that gtx 760 in SLI video wasn't enough and thats done with a single 1080p monitor and now you need the help of your whole clan?

Your 8350's 2008 IPC didnt really change, difference is still up to 100%.

[MbV93]

It won't bottleneck.

[Priller]

 

Yeah it's IPC is 100% slower. Hopla another source http://www.pcgameshardware.de/screenshots/original/2013/09/SC2HotS-pcgh.png

 

 

 

I gave you a video that proved it.

 

 

760's are not capable of 120 fps at 3x1080p, definitely 7950 aint either.

 

 

 

Thats covered in this post and keep an eye on the gpu loads: http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/141036-bottlenecking-gtx760/page-2#entry1903904

2 780's at 50/50% would be a single 780@99% which was covered here: http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/141036-bottlenecking-gtx760/page-2#entry1905393

 

 

 

 

 

http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/140853-asus-rmashould-i-buy-another-board/#entry1883069

Clearly not saying I've done that mod otherwise I wouldn't be talking in 3rd person. 

Do you want me to make a picture of my hands since that guy has big birthmark, put a sheet of paper with Faa written next to my hands to prove im not that guy in your delusional world?

 

 

You talk so much crap really. You're hardly making sense. Apparently that gtx 760 in SLI video wasn't enough and thats done with a single 1080p monitor and now you need the help of your whole clan?

Your 8350's 2008 IPC didnt really change, difference is still up to 100%.

 

 

So your 780s are getting 200FPS on ultra?

 

I call BS.

 

Here is a video of two 780s TIs at 1040 and 1920x1080 and he is only getting 120-140FPS.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-yOMn6Wpw4

 

I dont need anyone to back me up. They choose to because I tell the facts. Not convoluted BS that you do.

[Faa]

So your 780s are getting 200FPS on ultra?

 

I call BS.

 

Here is a video of two 780s TIs at 1040 and 1920x1080 and he is only getting 120-140FPS.

 

I dont need anyone to back me up. They choose to because I tell the facts. Not convoluted BS that you do.

Yeah they do, if this cpu feeds the gpu's enough info.

Did last time a video simulating an i3. Left 2 physical cores enabled and HT:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOYzmu51Zp8

Also you're being so stupid that you don't even notice that guy from your 780ti video had Vsync enabled. Look at the beginning especially, he never went above 144 fps.

[Priller]

Yeah they do, if this cpu feeds the gpu's enough info.

Did last time a video simulating an i3. Left 2 physical cores enabled and HT:

Also you're being so stupid that you don't even notice that guy from your 780ti video had Vsync enabled. Look at the beginning especially, he never went above 144 fps.

 

780s in the 90% range getting 100-120 FPS. Considering it goes as high as 154 or so. V sync isnt enabled.  So you some how get 50-80FPS more then him.....hmmm

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNnavE6QEjg

[Faa]

780s in the 90% range getting 100-120 FPS. Considering it goes as high as 154 or so. V sync isnt enabled.  So you some how get 50-80FPS more then him.....hmmm

That video is from october and like I said:

 

 

If you'd be wondering why I currently have 2 780's, it was just for BF4 because in the beta/release you couldn't have a stable 80 fps with a single 780 and BF4 taking advantage of 2 extra cores was just enough to fill 2 780's to 99%. Now that every GPU performs much better in BF4 compared to the release a 2nd 780 isn't even worth it for 1080p@120hz

The guy with his 144 fps lock when he dipped down below 144Hz, his cpu started to bottleneck. Literally any cpu was a flatout bottleneck with the beta that was so much more cpu intensive than now. Only 3930K's were doing decent and I have it recorded back with a single 780, I got later on a 2nd. Still lots of i5 & i7's bottleneck a 780 SLI setup but it's not even worth it to even have them in SLI anymore.

youtube.com/watch?v=inYH-MhIWDQ - pretty much 99% as far as I remember

Made a few mins ago: youtube.com/watch?v=rI_42KZ-UPE&feature=youtu.be

Ask that dude if 780 SLI is still worth it, you'd get a no answer

[EpicGeekonFire]

It's not that they won't support them, it's just that they won't be adequate enough.

This is true, but since I have no life and play World of tanks, an i3 is so perfect and cheap for me. Tmc I was sure that a 760 wouldn't have bottle necking issues with an i3. Its just the games that need a better CPU not the GPU itself. 

[Ober1kenobi]

Either get an i5, or if that's too expensive get a 6300, because i3's are absolute trash.

No they are not, Have you used the latest i3 4130 or any of it's counterparts, sick of people like yourself spreading misinformation,

Why are they 'absolute trash', my i3 4130 will keep up with your 8350 in gaming, and absolutely destroy it in single threaded applications

Gaming wise the i3 4130 is a beast

Watch the video above where Austin pits it against a 4670k, only with a GTX 780 does the 4670k start to really pull ahead, so there is no way the i3 would bottleneck a GTX 760, Get yo facts straight son