Create A Custom SAS In Computer

[DRK200]

Hello everybody
Before I start please note I'm newbie here and trying to learn and make something similar to STORINATOR so kindly correct me if I'm wrong
and suggestions are appreciated...... so 
1) Why I want this
A) I want to create a cloud based nas. since i'm a beginner at this
I'm planning to use 5950x and 30 drive and x570 mobo and so on accessories and as you all know 5950x  24 pci-e lanes  so I cannot attach more then 4 drives to it
and even the prebuild SAS in computer and NAS Prices are out of budget for me.

2) What My IDEA is
A)My idea is to create a custom SAS in Computer using  Super micro mobo, raid card , power supply.....etc.,  and assembling everything in a custom modified rig

Main Accessories I am planning to use:
Motherboard: X11SPL-F(https://www.supermicro.com/en/products/motherboard/X11SPL-F)
CPU: Intel® Xeon® Platinum 8274 Processor
Raid Card:Fujitsu PCI SAS Raid Card LSI1078

is it Possible that I can make it work? any drawbacks or issues I might be facing? or anything I might be missing? just thought to ask you people before taking any move.

[AbydosOne]

4 minutes ago, DRK200 said:

create a custom SAS

4 minutes ago, DRK200 said:

prebuild SAS

5 minutes ago, DRK200 said:

cloud based nas

"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."

 

What problem are you building this to solve? Beginners don't generally need ~1PB of storage, so it seems to me you've trying to solve something.

 

7 minutes ago, DRK200 said:

NAS Prices are out of budget for me

Once you account for your own time in setting it up and maintaining it, off the shelf NASes begin to make much more sense, especially for beginners.

[zogthegreat]

Yes, the setup that you listed will work. Be careful what RAID card you get. If you gong with EXT4, then you can use a "real" RAID card, I.E. one that is considered hardware RAID. If your going with ZFS, you need a RAID card that is flashable to IT mode or a card that you buy with IT mode already flashed.

 

Here's my server for an example:

 

Supermicro X9DR3-LN4F+

2 x's Xeon E5-2620

128gb DDR3 ECC

2 x's Intel DC S3700 200gb - mirrored for OS

1 Intel DC S3700 400gb - ZFS SLOG drive

2 x's Seagate Enterprise ST8000NM0065 8TB - ZFS mirror for data

Proxmox for system OS

 

The nice thing about the X9DR3 motherboard is that it comes with onboard SAS that can be flashed into IT mode, so I don't need a separate RAID card. 

 

[EDIT] I did a quick Google search and it seems that you can cross flash the Fujitsu RAID card.

 

[EDIT 2] Not sure what type of deal your getting on your hardware, but @AbydosOne is right about your not being clear on what your trying to accomplish. The hardware that you list is rather high end for a simple at home NAS. You can get a prebuilt NAS for a lot less cash than what this setup will cost you. If you really want a small home setup that you build yourself, I would recommend lower end hardware.

[Needfuldoer]

Just what exactly do you want it accomplish?

 

If a prebuilt NAS is out of your price range, relatively current enterprise hardware certainly will be as well.

[mariushm]

51 minutes ago, DRK200 said:

Hello everybody
Before I start please note I'm newbie here and trying to learn and make something similar to STORINATOR so kindly correct me if I'm wrong
and suggestions are appreciated...... so 
1) Why I want this
A) I want to create a cloud based nas. since i'm a beginner at this
I'm planning to use 5950x and 30 drive and x570 mobo and so on accessories and as you all know 5950x  24 pci-e lanes  so I cannot attach more then 4 drives to it
and even the prebuild SAS in computer and NAS Prices are out of budget for me.

2) What My IDEA is
A)My idea is to create a custom SAS in Computer using  Super micro mobo, raid card , power supply.....etc.,  and assembling everything in a custom modified rig

Main Accessories I am planning to use:
Motherboard: X11SPL-F(https://www.supermicro.com/en/products/motherboard/X11SPL-F)
CPU: Intel® Xeon® Platinum 8274 Processor
Raid Card:Fujitsu PCI SAS Raid Card LSI1078

is it Possible that I can make it work? any drawbacks or issues I might be facing? or anything I might be missing? just thought to ask you people before taking any move.

You don't need a 5950x - all socket AM4 processors without integrated graphics have 24 pci-e lanes. The chipset creates additional pci-e lanes, 8 in the case of B550 for example. 

x570 lets you split the 16 pci-e lanes dedicated for graphics into 2 pci-e x8 slots, so you could install 2 HBA / RAID controllers that would create 4/8/16/more SATA ports. Not all x570 boards support splitting. 

 

You can run a video card in a pci-e x1 slot, either by cutting the edge connector, or using a pci-e x1 -> pci-e x16 riser cable. 

 

There's also Threadripper processors as a more power hungry alternative. You could get an old 8 core Threadripper 1900x for around $165 on eBay and pair it with a motherboard that costs around $300+  but gives you around 60 pci-e lanes, and typically 5 pci-e slots.  You could have 4+ HBA controllers each with 8 or more SATA ports.  Threadripper would also work well because you have extra ram slots, so you could add up to 128 GB of ram in 8 slots.

 

There's older raid controller with jbod feature for around $85 see for example this 16 sata2 ports Areca raid controller : https://unixsurplus.com/areca-arc-1260-raid-controller/

There's SAS HBA controllers (8 port sas/sata 3) for around 60$ on eBay and fancier ones for more money. 

 

 

 

 

[DRK200]

2 hours ago, mariushm said:

You don't need a 5950x - all socket AM4 processors without integrated graphics have 24 pci-e lanes. The chipset creates additional pci-e lanes, 8 in the case of B550 for example. 

x570 lets you split the 16 pci-e lanes dedicated for graphics into 2 pci-e x8 slots, so you could install 2 HBA / RAID controllers that would create 4/8/16/more SATA ports. Not all x570 boards support splitting. 

 

You can run a video card in a pci-e x1 slot, either by cutting the edge connector, or using a pci-e x1 -> pci-e x16 riser cable. 

 

There's also Threadripper processors as a more power hungry alternative. You could get an old 8 core Threadripper 1900x for around $165 on eBay and pair it with a motherboard that costs around $300+  but gives you around 60 pci-e lanes, and typically 5 pci-e slots.  You could have 4+ HBA controllers each with 8 or more SATA ports.  Threadripper would also work well because you have extra ram slots, so you could add up to 128 GB of ram in 8 slots.

 

There's older raid controller with jbod feature for around $85 see for example this 16 sata2 ports Areca raid controller : https://unixsurplus.com/areca-arc-1260-raid-controller/

There's SAS HBA controllers (8 port sas/sata 3) for around 60$ on eBay and fancier ones for more money. 

 

Yep, thank you appreciate it bro

[DRK200]

3 hours ago, zogthegreat said:

Yes, the setup that you listed will work. Be careful what RAID card you get. If you gong with EXT4, then you can use a "real" RAID card, I.E. one that is considered hardware RAID. If your going with ZFS, you need a RAID card that is flashable to IT mode or a card that you buy with IT mode already flashed.

 

Here's my server for an example:

 

Supermicro X9DR3-LN4F+

2 x's Xeon E5-2620

128gb DDR3 ECC

2 x's Intel DC S3700 200gb - mirrored for OS

1 Intel DC S3700 400gb - ZFS SLOG drive

2 x's Seagate Enterprise ST8000NM0065 8TB - ZFS mirror for data

Proxmox for system OS

 

The nice thing about the X9DR3 motherboard is that it comes with onboard SAS that can be flashed into IT mode, so I don't need a separate RAID card. 

 

[EDIT] I did a quick Google search and it seems that you can cross flash the Fujitsu RAID card.

 

[EDIT 2] Not sure what type of deal your getting on your hardware, but @AbydosOne is right about your not being clear on what your trying to accomplish. The hardware that you list is rather high end for a simple at home NAS. You can get a prebuilt NAS for a lot less cash than what this setup will cost you. If you really want a small home setup that you build yourself, I would recommend lower end hardware.

basically I'm creating it to store high amount of game server data.......

thank you for recommending and helping out

[Blue4130]

4 hours ago, DRK200 said:

basically I'm creating it to store high amount of game server data.......

thank you for recommending and helping out

Just put 6x 20tb drives in a standard computer. No need to go all crazy with expensive overpowered enterprise gear. If you need more, there are plenty of Pci-e cards that will add ports. 

 

What do you consider "high amount"?