Buy rtx3080 ti?

[Checcot1]

Hi, this question is important to me because I am in a period where I can afford to spend and buy something more. 

 

 

My reasoning:

I want a pc that lasts a while. I prefer more fps than resolution.

I have a rtx 3070 but I would like to change to a rtx3080ti which would be in the duration of the time perhaps the best thing for what I am looking for.

I prefer fps, in the future maybe the games will be more complex and the rtx3080ti would still perform well at high / ultra in full hd.

 

But before doing an upgrade I realized THAT I DON'T KNOW how many other things I should change and if you think it's worth it:

 

cpu: i7 9700K 

 

Power supply:    FSP (FORTRON) HYDRO PRO 600W 80+BRONZO *HP2-600 * 1652

MOTHEBOARD: MSI Z390 GAMING PLUS

RAM:  Crucial Ballistix BL2K8G32C16U4B 3200 MHz, DDR4, DRAM,  16GB

SSD:  Pioneer 1TB NVMe PCIe M.2 2280 Gen 3x

 

HD: 3TB TOSHIBA

 

FAN FOR CPU: Enermax ETS-T50A-FSS T50 AXE Silent Edition-

 

It seems obvious to me that I should change the power supply first of all.

But what catches the eye:

the motherboard: i can't afford a new processor because i9 11 are not compatible

the rtx 3080 you with the i7 9700k there is good?

or in the next few years should I still change the motherboard and then I have to change things?

 

I would like to ask you: apart from the changes to the power supply, I can stay like this for the next 3-4 years by putting in an rtx 3080 ti

or if I have to change something, do I do it now?

I have no urgency, I could do it, but I would prefer not to dismantle everything and rebuild.

[aisle9]

19 minutes ago, Checcot1 said:

 

cpu: i7 9700K

This is problemo numero uno. The 9700K is an eight-core, eight-thread processor. By comparison, the R5 5600X is a six-core, twelve-thread CPU. Sure, the 9700K is clocked high, but as games get more intense, eight threads are only going to be viable for so long. Consider that the 4C/8T is already on life support for AAA gaming.

 

If you're going with a 3080 Ti, get something that will be able to at least pretend to keep up with it. A 5900X would be ideal, a 5800X kind of the minimum. You could go the i9 route with Intel as well. But pairing a 3080 Ti with a 9700K just seems...you're gonna have a bad time in a year or two, that's all I'll say.

[Guest]

Just now, aisle9 said:

This is problemo numero uno. The 9700K is an eight-core, eight-thread processor. By comparison, the R5 5600X is a six-core, twelve-thread CPU. Sure, the 9700K is clocked high, but as games get more intense, eight threads are only going to be viable for so long. Consider that the 4C/8T is already on life support for AAA gaming.

 

If you're going with a 3080 Ti, get something that will be able to at least pretend to keep up with it. A 5900X would be ideal, a 5800X kind of the minimum. You could go the i9 route with Intel as well. But pairing a 3080 Ti with a 9700K just seems...you're gonna have a bad time in a year or two, that's all I'll say.

intel 12th gen is coming soon, so it may be a better idea to get that and a 3080, since 3080 ti is twice the price for ~10-20% better performance (in other words 3080 is better for the price), then again, depends on what AAA game they're playing

[Checcot1]

5 minutes ago, aisle9 said:

This is problemo numero uno. The 9700K is an eight-core, eight-thread processor. By comparison, the R5 5600X is a six-core, twelve-thread CPU. Sure, the 9700K is clocked high, but as games get more intense, eight threads are only going to be viable for so long. Consider that the 4C/8T is already on life support for AAA gaming.

 

If you're going with a 3080 Ti, get something that will be able to at least pretend to keep up with it. A 5900X would be ideal, a 5800X kind of the minimum. You could go the i9 route with Intel as well. But pairing a 3080 Ti with a 9700K just seems...you're gonna have a bad time in a year or two, that's all I'll say.

 

2 minutes ago, Finnegan1616 said:

intel 12th gen is coming soon, so it may be a better idea to get that and a 3080, since 3080 ti is twice the price for ~10-20% better performance (in other words 3080 is better for the price), then again, depends on what AAA game they're playing

So i change motherboard? 
Because least compatible cpu for my motherboard is i9 https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/support/MPG-Z390-GAMING-PLUS#support-main-block-qvl - Google Chrome (gyazo.com)

[Guest]

3 minutes ago, Checcot1 said:

 

So i change motherboard? 
Because least compatible cpu for my motherboard is i9 https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/support/MPG-Z390-GAMING-PLUS#support-main-block-qvl - Google Chrome (gyazo.com)

might be worth dealing with your current pc until intel 12th gen, bc it should be a much larger change than 11th gen does, and if you're really struggling with performance (<60fps) I guess you could replace your gpu with a 3080 or if you really need to, a 3080ti, but I can't say I suggest doing that

 

 

also you should probably check task manager to see exactly what is dragging down (bottlenecking) your fps, then upgrade that, rather than assuming it's your gpu

[DarkSmith2]

wait for next GEN GPUs. (end of next year)

9700k+3070 is a good match.

[tikker]

1 hour ago, Finnegan1616 said:

intel 12th gen is coming soon, so it may be a better idea to get that and a 3080, since 3080 ti is twice the price for ~10-20% better performance (in other words 3080 is better for the price), then again, depends on what AAA game they're playing

It's almost twice the MSRP, but around here as of late 3080s and 3080 Tis cost about the same, maybe a 50-100 Euro difference. Depending on where OP  shops, it might make more sense money wise to spend that little bit extra on a Ti.

[Checcot1]

1 hour ago, Finnegan1616 said:

might be worth dealing with your current pc until intel 12th gen, bc it should be a much larger change than 11th gen does, and if you're really struggling with performance (<60fps) I guess you could replace your gpu with a 3080 or if you really need to, a 3080ti, but I can't say I suggest doing that

 

 

also you should probably check task manager to see exactly what is dragging down (bottlenecking) your fps, then upgrade that, rather than assuming it's your gpu

 

43 minutes ago, DarkSmith2 said:

wait for next GEN GPUs. (end of next year)

9700k+3070 is a good match.

 

14 minutes ago, tikker said:

It's almost twice the MSRP, but around here as of late 3080s and 3080 Tis cost about the same, maybe a 50-100 Euro difference. Depending on where OP  shops, it might make more sense money wise to spend that little bit extra on a Ti.

I thought about this thing:
since 1080p for rtx3070 is just fine
I thought:
i expect the new 12 gen processor as recommended, i will change the motherboard so too and get a 3080 ti. How does it look to you?
Does the 1080p monitor stay at 144 hz or do I buy a 240?

[DarkSmith2]

2 hours ago, Checcot1 said:

I thought about this thing:
since 1080p for rtx3070 is just fine
I thought:
i expect the new 12 gen processor as recommended, i will change the motherboard so too and get a 3080 ti. How does it look to you?
Does the 1080p monitor stay at 144 hz or do I buy a 240?

if you go 12th gen with 3080ti and stay 1080p
you buy this:
Acer Nitro XV252QF 390hz Monitor.

[Bobbysixjp]

The best CPU you can have on your motherboard is a 9900K. It might be worth an upgrade to the 9900K if you can sell your 9700K and get a good deal on the 9900K. Personally I would not upgrade your motherboard yet (especially with DDR5 around the corner) - you are better off waiting a few years. The 9900K will give you a year or two of extra good performance because it has double the threads of your current CPU.

Whether it is worth upgrading to a 3080 Ti depends on the type of games you play. AAA games or mostly Esports? If it is the latter then stick with your current combo 9700K and 3070). 

[Gohardgrandpa]

I would upgrade the CPU to a 9900k, sell the 9700k online and keep the 3070. 

 

I use a 3070 with a 1440p 144hz monitor and have no complaints. I couldn't imagine running a 3080ti on a 1080p panel.  Such a waste 

[DarkSmith2]

4 minutes ago, Gohardgrandpa said:

I use a 3070 with a 1440p 144hz monitor and have no complaints. I couldn't imagine running a 3080ti on a 1080p panel.  Such a waste 

There is no waste, and no overkill for 1080p, 3080ti isnt even fast enough for it. Thats why we all wait for 4000series with actual gaming architecture with 5nm TSMC. 

In some games you want to run higher renderscale for visibility, since Monitors with higher resolutions are very limited in refreshrate and have bad pixel responsetimes its your only way to go. Another topic are filters or  dx12 shooters that are mostly not CPU limited in a common way unless its played on maps with alot of players. single PC setup streaming via nvenc /using RTX broadcast Software are another reason.

Also there is an "uneveness" rating in efficiency. Which is basically measuring the affects of frametimes for sensation, smoothness and "round" flow.

[m9x3mos]

3 hours ago, DarkSmith2 said:

There is no waste, and no overkill for 1080p, 3080ti isnt even fast enough for it. Thats why we all wait for 4000series with actual gaming architecture with 5nm TSMC. 

In some games you want to run higher renderscale for visibility, since Monitors with higher resolutions are very limited in refreshrate and have bad pixel responsetimes its your only way to go. Another topic are filters or  dx12 shooters that are mostly not CPU limited in a common way unless its played on maps with alot of players. single PC setup streaming via nvenc /using RTX broadcast Software are another reason.

Also there is an "uneveness" rating in efficiency. Which is basically measuring the affects of frametimes for sensation, smoothness and "round" flow.

Yeah can't wait for that 4090 in October 2022. Probably cost 3k msrp at the current rate of things. 

[DarkSmith2]

5 hours ago, m9x3mos said:

Yeah can't wait for that 4090 in October 2022. Probably cost 3k msrp at the current rate of things. 

well yea thats what happens when people buy from scalpers, insane market analysis, Nvidia exactly knows now what people are willing to pay, and they got that info for free. besides that around every 5years GPU prices kinda double anyways.

[m9x3mos]

6 hours ago, DarkSmith2 said:

well yea thats what happens when people buy from scalpers, insane market analysis, Nvidia exactly knows now what people are willing to pay, and they got that info for free. besides that around every 5years GPU prices kinda double anyways.

Well the titan rtx cost an eye watering 2500 msrp. It wouldn't be that insane for them to do that either.