Can't pick between Intel and AMD laptop

[TheNaitsyrk]

I currently have Lenovo Legion 7 with RTX 3080 16GB, 64GB of RAM, 2x TB NVMe and QHD 165hz screen, although it was 5800H which is fine.

 

I noticed that there is a laptop exactly like this one except it has 10875H.

 

Both are exactly the same apart from CPU.

 

10875H is better in gaming, it gets 4450 in Heaven 4 1080p ultra whereas my one gets 4050 same settings with 5800H.

 

However 5800H wins in everything else apart from gaming.

 

For example, Cinebench R15 is 2150 and Intel is 1650ish. Same with other workloads.

 

Is it worth swapping for a few FPS increase?

 

My system has 10980XE and I kind of want it all Intel but if it makes no sense I'll keep it.

 

Opinions?

 

I upgraded RAM in my one to 64GB and 2x TB NVMe. All these are sold out everywhere.

[Darkseth]

No not really, the 5800h is the better CPU, it has better Multocore, better singlecore, better thermals. It beats a 10th Gen in everything.
Heaven is a piss old Benchmark, and does test GPU performance, NOT CPU Performance. You can't compare Benchmarks between 2 different Notebooks just becuse the CPU is different.

 

Even Intel's 11th Gen 8-Core is not better. It has similar performance, but needs more Watt for that. But Intel Models will come with Thunderbolt, which some need.

 

Aside from all that: Those extremely minor Performance differences in Games will only show up during a HARD (and i mean HARD) CPU-Bottleneck. Like, 720p low settings.

You'll probably play in high res and high settings, which means, GPU will mostly be bottlenecking, while the CPU will not be even close to 100% usage.

--> CPU Differences are irrelevant here for Gaming.

 

But there are more Parameters. If the 5800H does the job with less heat and Powerdraw, there's more Power available to the GPU, less heat so less throttling possible.

It's not that simple.

 

 

But to answer your Question: Ryzen 7 5800H is THE best choice here, unless you need Thunderbolt.

And if you do, you should get the Legion 7 with Intel's 11th gen. (only worth, if you NEED Thunderbolt, otherwise a Zen3 is currently the best x86 Chip)

10th Gen is previous Generation, which had some issues with the Hinges, Lenovo fixed it in the 2021 Model. Although i don't know if this is only for the Legion 5 series, or also Legion 7.

 

Also, Cinebench R15 is a pissold Benchmark, and shouldn't be used anymore. R20 or better R23 are better. They are more modern, and can utilize modern CPUs better.

At some point, if a Benchmark is too old, the Benchmark itself can start bottlenecking. For example, if you use 20 year old 3d Mark Benchmarks, they just won't be able to compare modern Hardware.

 

 

But there's one Thought i want to give you on your way: A Notebook is MUCH more than the CPU built in.

If you switch to the 10750H, or 11xxxH, you will never ever notice any difference in any situation. Not today, not in 10 years.

[ki8aras]

yea the 5800h is just a better cpu all around (especially dat efficiency)

 

unless u need thunderbolt but going by your specs you dont need an egpu

[TheNaitsyrk]

5 minutes ago, Darkseth said:

No not really, the 5800h is the better CPU, it has better Multocore, better singlecore, better thermals. It beats a 10th Gen in everything.
Heaven is a piss old Benchmark, and does test GPU performance, NOT CPU Performance. You can't compare Benchmarks between 2 different Notebooks just becuse the CPU is different.

 

Even Intel's 11th Gen 8-Core is not better. It has similar performance, but needs more Watt for that. But Intel Models will come with Thunderbolt, which some need.

 

Aside from all that: Those extremely minor Performance differences in Games will only show up during a HARD (and i mean HARD) CPU-Bottleneck. Like, 720p low settings.

You'll probably play in high res and high settings, which means, GPU will mostly be bottlenecking, while the CPU will not be even close to 100% usage.

--> CPU Differences are irrelevant here for Gaming.

 

But there are more Parameters. If the 5800H does the job with less heat and Powerdraw, there's more Power available to the GPU, less heat so less throttling possible.

It's not that simple.

 

 

But to answer your Question: Ryzen 7 5800H is THE best choice here, unless you need Thunderbolt.

And if you do, you should get the Legion 7 with Intel's 11th gen. (only worth, if you NEED Thunderbolt, otherwise a Zen3 is currently the best x86 Chip)

10th Gen is previous Generation, which had some issues with the Hinges, Lenovo fixed it in the 2021 Model. Although i don't know if this is only for the Legion 5 series, or also Legion 7.

 

Also, Cinebench R15 is a pissold Benchmark, and shouldn't be used anymore. R20 or better R23 are better. They are more modern, and can utilize modern CPUs better.

At some point, if a Benchmark is too old, the Benchmark itself can start bottlenecking. For example, if you use 20 year old 3d Mark Benchmarks, they just won't be able to compare modern Hardware.

 

 

But there's one Thought i want to give you on your way: A Notebook is MUCH more than the CPU built in.

If you switch to the 10750H, or 11xxxH, you will never ever notive any difference in any situation. Not today, not in 10 years.

I use the CB15 and Heaven 4 as it still scales well etc. But I guess you're right.

 

It does have a massively better efficiency as well Vs Intel.