upgrade CPU with 3MB Cache and higher frequency or 4MB Cache with lower frequency

[pands]

Hi, I want to upgrade my PC CPU for online school and just light gaming on a low budget. I want to upgrade it from Pentium to Core i3. My motherboard is LGA 1150 socket with H81 Chipset. After I searched the online store I got 2 choices. i3 4170 3.7GHz with 3MB cache and i3 4330 3.5GHz with 4MB Intel® Smart Cache. Should I choose i3 4170 0.2Ghz higher frequency and Integrated Graphics Intel® HD Graphics 4400 or i3 4330 with 1MB larger Cache and Integrated Graphics Intel® HD Graphics 4600? The price of these two CPUs is the same, which is $41.55 (Convert from IDR 600,000 to Dollar)

 

Sorry, I'm new user in Linus Tech Tips and newbie in PC Components

 

 

Specifications of the 2 CPUs Above (Source ark.intel.com)

 

 

[i3 4170] https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/77490/intel-core-i3-4170-processor-3m-cache-3-70-ghz.html

 

 

CPU Specifications
# of Cores
2

# of Threads
4

Processor Base Frequency
3.70 GHz

Cache
3 MB

Bus Speed
5 GT/s

TDP
54 W

Supplemental Information
Embedded Options Available
No

Datasheet
View now

Memory Specifications
Max Memory Size (dependent on memory type)
32 GB

Memory Types
DDR3-1333/1600, DDR3L-1333/1600 @ 1.5V

Max # of Memory Channels
2

Max Memory Bandwidth
25.6 GB/s

ECC Memory Supported ‡
Yes

Processor Graphics
Processor Graphics ‡
Intel® HD Graphics 4400

Graphics Base Frequency
350 MHz

Graphics Max Dynamic Frequency
1.15 GHz

Graphics Video Max Memory
2 GB

Graphics Output
eDP/DP/HDMI/DVI/VGA

Max Resolution (HDMI)‡
4096x2304@24Hz

Max Resolution (DP)‡
3840x2160@60Hz

Max Resolution (eDP - Integrated Flat Panel)‡
3840x2160@60Hz

Max Resolution (VGA)‡
1920x1200@60Hz

DirectX* Support
11.1/12

OpenGL* Support
4.3

Intel® Quick Sync Video
Yes

Intel® InTru™ 3D Technology
Yes

Intel® Clear Video HD Technology
Yes

# of Displays Supported ‡
3

Device ID
0x41E

Expansion Options
Scalability
1S Only

PCI Express Revision
Up to 3.0

PCI Express Configurations ‡
Up to 1x16, 2x8, 1x8+2x4

Max # of PCI Express Lanes
16

Package Specifications
Sockets Supported
FCLGA1150

Max CPU Configuration
1

Thermal Solution Specification
PCG 2013C

TCASE
72°C

Package Size
37.5mm x 37.5mm

Advanced Technologies
Intel® Turbo Boost Technology ‡
No

Intel vPro® Platform Eligibility ‡
No

Intel® Hyper-Threading Technology ‡
Yes

Intel® Virtualization Technology (VT-x) ‡
Yes

Intel® Virtualization Technology for Directed I/O (VT-d) ‡
No

Intel® VT-x with Extended Page Tables (EPT) ‡
Yes

Intel® Transactional Synchronization Extensions
No

Intel® 64 ‡
Yes

Instruction Set
64-bit

Instruction Set Extensions
Intel® SSE4.1, Intel® SSE4.2, Intel® AVX2

Idle States
Yes

Enhanced Intel SpeedStep® Technology
Yes

Thermal Monitoring Technologies
Yes

Intel® Stable Image Platform Program (SIPP)
No

Security & Reliability
Intel® AES New Instructions
Yes

Secure Key
Yes

Intel® Trusted Execution Technology ‡
No

Execute Disable Bit ‡
Yes

 

 

[i3 4330] https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/77769/intel-core-i3-4330-processor-4m-cache-3-50-ghz.html

 

 

CPU Specifications
# of Cores
2

# of Threads
4

Processor Base Frequency
3.50 GHz

Cache
4 MB Intel® Smart Cache

Bus Speed
5 GT/s

TDP
54 W

Supplemental Information
Embedded Options Available
Yes

Datasheet
View now

Memory Specifications
Max Memory Size (dependent on memory type)
32 GB

Memory Types
DDR3-1333/1600, DDR3L-1333/1600 @ 1.5V

Max # of Memory Channels
2

Max Memory Bandwidth
25.6 GB/s

ECC Memory Supported ‡
Yes

Processor Graphics
Processor Graphics ‡
Intel® HD Graphics 4600

Graphics Base Frequency
350 MHz

Graphics Max Dynamic Frequency
1.15 GHz

Graphics Video Max Memory
2 GB

Graphics Output
eDP/DP/HDMI/DVI/VGA

Max Resolution (HDMI)‡
4096x2304@24Hz

Max Resolution (DP)‡
3840x2160@60Hz

Max Resolution (eDP - Integrated Flat Panel)‡
3840x2160@60Hz

Max Resolution (VGA)‡
1920x1200@60Hz

DirectX* Support
11.1/12

OpenGL* Support
4.3

Intel® Quick Sync Video
Yes

Intel® InTru™ 3D Technology
Yes

Intel® Clear Video HD Technology
Yes

# of Displays Supported ‡
3

Device ID
0x412

Expansion Options
Scalability
1S Only

PCI Express Revision
Up to 3.0

PCI Express Configurations ‡
Up to 1x16, 2x8, 1x8+2x4

Max # of PCI Express Lanes
16

Package Specifications
Sockets Supported
FCLGA1150

Max CPU Configuration
1

Thermal Solution Specification
PCG 2013C

TCASE
66.8°C

Package Size
37.5mm x 37.5mm

Advanced Technologies
Intel® Turbo Boost Technology ‡
No

Intel vPro® Platform Eligibility ‡
No

Intel® Hyper-Threading Technology ‡
Yes

Intel® Virtualization Technology (VT-x) ‡
Yes

Intel® Virtualization Technology for Directed I/O (VT-d) ‡
No

Intel® VT-x with Extended Page Tables (EPT) ‡
Yes

Intel® Transactional Synchronization Extensions
No

Intel® 64 ‡
Yes

Instruction Set
64-bit

Instruction Set Extensions
Intel® SSE4.1, Intel® SSE4.2, Intel® AVX2

Idle States
Yes

Enhanced Intel SpeedStep® Technology
Yes

Thermal Monitoring Technologies
Yes

Intel® Stable Image Platform Program (SIPP)
No

Security & Reliability
Intel® AES New Instructions
Yes

Intel® Trusted Execution Technology ‡
No

Execute Disable Bit ‡
Yes
 

[Electronics Wizardy]

Can you get other cpus? 

 

HOw about a xeon e3 1220 v3? Should be cheaper, much faster(its a quad core). And works in almost all lga 1150 h81 boards.

[LIGISTX]

i5 or Xeon may be a better option. Likely can find a used one for a good price. 

[Somerandomtechyboi]

36 minutes ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

Can you get other cpus? 

 

HOw about a xeon e3 1220 v3? Should be cheaper, much faster(its a quad core). And works in almost all lga 1150 h81 boards.

Correct me if im wrong but i think the 12x0 cpus dont have igpu, though the 12x5 cpus do have igpu

 

 

But then again if the igpu counterpart is 15$ or mlre above the non igpu counterpart then might aswell just find some cheap low end hd 5450 or hd 6350, still dx11 so shouldnt run into any issues with programs

[Electronics Wizardy]

10 minutes ago, Somerandomtechyboi said:

Correct me if im wrong but i think the 12x0 cpus dont have igpu, though the 12x5 cpus do have igpu

 

 

But then again if the igpu counterpart is 15$ or mlre above the non igpu counterpart then might aswell just find some cheap low end hd 5450 or hd 6350, still dx11 so shouldnt run into any issues with programs

Yup thats right, not igpu on the 1220.

 

But a e3 1225 v3 isn't much more on ebay, and the igpu on those is much faster than a 5450 or similar so thats what id get if you need a igpu.

[SkilledRebuilds]

CORE Beats Cache

+100Mhz vs +100Mhz independently.

[pands]

1 hour ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

Can you get other cpus? 

 

HOw about a xeon e3 1220 v3? Should be cheaper, much faster(its a quad core). And works in almost all lga 1150 h81 boards.

Yes Xeon is cheaper $2.42 and already quad core. But there is no IGPU and I have to buy separately. Meanwhile, to match the i3 4170 or i3 4330 IGPU I have to spend more budget. And that much budget does not include upgrading 1 piece of RAM from 2 GB to 4 GB (1 other slot already has 4 GB).

 

Thanks for the answer!

 

1 hour ago, LIGISTX said:

i5 or Xeon may be a better option. Likely can find a used one for a good price. 

I only have 2 choices for Xeon and i5 because there are no other series in my country's online store. For i5 4690 the price is higher $24.24 (Original price $65.79) and for Xeon E3 1220 V3 it costs $2.42 less (original price $39.13) but no IGPU. My plan is just to upgrade the CPU and RAM with a low budget. For GPU it could be next month or next year. Meanwhile, the CPU that I use is damaged, I'm afraid that next month's exam will suddenly turn off my PC and all answers will be lost.
 
Thanks for the answer!

 

25 minutes ago, SkilledRebuilds said:

CORE Beats Cache

+100Mhz vs +100Mhz independently.

It only affects performance very little, right?
 
Thanks for the answer!

[Electronics Wizardy]

8 minutes ago, pands said:

Meanwhile, the CPU that I use is damaged, I'm afraid that next month's exam will suddenly turn off my PC and all answers will be lost.
 

What do you mean by the cpu is damaged? CPUs don't fail often, and the motherboard or ram is much more likely to be the issue here.

[pands]

26 minutes ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

What do you mean by the cpu is damaged? CPUs don't fail often, and the motherboard or ram is much more likely to be the issue here.

In the past I've tried to delid for experiments and the result failed. The memory controller can only recognize 1 RAM slot. When I plug in 2 ram buzzer it beeps long. Before it was delided there were no problems whatsoever. I'm afraid when I use it my PC suddenly turns off

[Electronics Wizardy]

1 minute ago, pands said:

In the past I've tried to delid for experiments and the result failed. The memory controller can only recognize 1 RAM slot. When I plug in 2 ram buzzer it beeps long. Before it was delided there were no problems whatsoever. I'm afraid when I use it my PC suddenly turns off

Id really try to get a e3 1225 v3 on ebay then, Should be in your budget, and much faster than these i3 options.

[pands]

30 minutes ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

Id really try to get a e3 1225 v3 on ebay then, Should be in your budget, and much faster than these i3 options.

Yes, it's true but shipping costs from abroad to my country are 30% - 50% of the price of the CPU itself

[Electronics Wizardy]

8 minutes ago, pands said:

Yes, it's true but shipping costs from abroad to my country are 30% - 50% of the price of the CPU itself

But even with shipping, those chips are about 30USD here, so they should fit in your budget. Id take anouther look.

[pands]

48 minutes ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

But even with shipping, those chips are about 30USD here, so they should fit in your budget. Id take anouther look.

Yes thanks for helping me. Maybe I'll buy it