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what is minimum edc tdc ppt required to run 5950x at rated speed with single core reaching 4900mhz in lighly threaded tasks?

My board b450 gaming pro carbon ac max .ram 16 gb 3600 cl 16 gskill.RAM IS FINE I AM 100 PERCENT SURE.MY SYSTEM CRASHED.I REPLACED CPUS TWICE..amd is saying not everytime cpu can be faulty.my system works fine on cpb and pbo disabled and works under spec on both enabled when i set pbo to enabled in bios.If i changed any other setting of pbo and trust me i tried almost every thing it crashes.It dont work on pbo on auto.I dont want to run my cpu on any other setting than auto as it voids warranty.I am arguing with msi that your board aint enough .But i need knowledge first that what is minimum requirement for it to run FOR AVERAGE SILICON on rated speeds.My cpu never reaches 4.9 ghz even though it seems like it is good..Pls Help

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That motherboard is in tier C in the VRM tier list:

Not recommended to be used with such a powerful CPU.

 

Check your VRM temperatures with HWInfo.

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50 minutes ago, ServantOfGod said:

I am arguing with msi that your board aint enough

That's like yelling at your PSU manufacturer because your 500W isn't enough to run a 3090.

 

Why you even thought to pair a B450 with a 5950X is beyond rationale in the first place, but it's simply too much for that board to handle. Get a board that's actually intended to run a top of the line chip like that.

 

While we're on the topic, as well, what PSU do you have? That makes a huge difference as well, and something tells me based on the rest of this, that's it's not exactly high quality either.

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1 hour ago, Chris Pratt said:

That's like yelling at your PSU manufacturer because your 500W isn't enough to run a 3090.

 

Why you even thought to pair a B450 with a 5950X is beyond rationale in the first place, but it's simply too much for that board to handle. Get a board that's actually intended to run a top of the line chip like that.

 

While we're on the topic, as well, what PSU do you have? That makes a huge difference as well, and something tells me based on the rest of this, that's it's not exactly high quality either.

it said it supports 5950x

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1 hour ago, Chris Pratt said:

That's like yelling at your PSU manufacturer because your 500W isn't enough to run a 3090.

 

Why you even thought to pair a B450 with a 5950X is beyond rationale in the first place, but it's simply too much for that board to handle. Get a board that's actually intended to run a top of the line chip like that.

 

While we're on the topic, as well, what PSU do you have? That makes a huge difference as well, and something tells me based on the rest of this, that's it's not exactly high quality either.

psu 750 w antec gold

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Gonna need some more beef for that. I would look to at least b550. It might support it to the point you can use it, but you aren’t getting peak performance.. as you can see..

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5 minutes ago, freeagent said:

Gonna need some more beef for that. I would look to at least b550. It might support it to the point you can use it, but you aren’t getting peak performance.. as you can see..

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1 hour ago, Chris Pratt said:

That's like yelling at your PSU manufacturer because your 500W isn't enough to run a 3090.

 

Why you even thought to pair a B450 with a 5950X is beyond rationale in the first place, but it's simply too much for that board to handle. Get a board that's actually intended to run a top of the line chip like that.

 

While we're on the topic, as well, what PSU do you have? That makes a huge difference as well, and something tells me based on the rest of this, that's it's not exactly high quality either.

can u help me get some values to fight with msi.

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2 hours ago, HairlessMonkeyBoy said:

That motherboard is in tier C in the VRM tier list:

Not recommended to be used with such a powerful CPU.

 

Check your VRM temperatures with HWInfo.

63 celsius vrm mos max

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15 minutes ago, freeagent said:

Gonna need some more beef for that. I would look to at least b550. It might support it to the point you can use it, but you aren’t getting peak performance.. as you can see..

can u help me get some values to fight with msi

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10 minutes ago, ServantOfGod said:

63 celsius vrm mos max

It’s not just about VRM though. 
 

The only other thing I can suggest is to learn how to tune it and work with what you have.

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2 minutes ago, ServantOfGod said:

can u help me get some values to fight with msi

I don’t use MSI myself, never did like them much..

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On 7/30/2021 at 3:40 PM, ServantOfGod said:

it said it supports 5950x

"support" in the sense that you can put that cpu in that board and you can use it, not "support" in it will function to it's full potential

i only can agree with @Chris Pratt here. why you put a top tier cpu in a, at best, mid tier board in the first place leaves me baffled

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8 hours ago, LauriHimself said:

"support" in the sense that you can put that cpu in that board and you can use it, not "support" in it will function to it's full potential

i only can agree with @Chris Pratt here. why you put a top tier cpu in a, at best, mid tier board in the first place leaves me baffled

Because I thought it would run at stock rated speeds atleast.i didn't wanted overclocking

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