INTEL Core i7-11700K vs Intel Core I9 10850K which one should I go for?

[Jurrunio]

6 minutes ago, jones177 said:

My i9 9900k uses about 120 watts stock and 158 watts overclocked or just a little warmer than my R7 5800x.

Then you're not testing it right. I have doubts on your cooler cooling a 10900k at 330w, but 9900k will definitely crack 200w no problem. Heck even an 8700k can do that after delidding.

 

5 minutes ago, GoldenLag said:

(Unless there are some major improvements i havent seen) 

I think 11th gen has AV1 encoding support, not that it matters today nor as a stop gap solution

 

6 minutes ago, Herkul said:

Thanks all. I think I will go with the 10850K. Anyone know if Deepcool GameStorm Castle 240EX cooler is enough?

Are you going to overclock? When you do, power draw shoots up to the sky and you need something bigger to hold it down. Otherwise you could go with a big air cooler.

[Herkul]

1 minute ago, Jurrunio said:

Then you're not testing it right. I have doubts on your cooler cooling a 10900k at 330w, but 9900k will definitely crack 200w no problem. Heck even an 8700k can do that after delidding.

 

I think 11th gen has AV1 encoding support, not that it matters today nor as a stop gap solution

 

Are you going to overclock? When you do, power draw shoots up to the sky and you need something bigger to hold it down. Otherwise you could go with a big air cooler.

I will be over clocking it indeed. So far this is my to buy list:

 

Asus Prime Z490-A motherboard

Crucial Ballistix RGB White 2x16GB DDR4 3000MHZ

Deepcool GameStorm Castle 240EX

Intel Core i9-10850K

Corsair iCUE 4000X RGB (Not sure if the case is good enough to keep everything cool)

 

What do you think? As you said, the cooler might not be enough, perhaps Noctua NH D15? But it wont look aesthetically nice ahahaha.

[TitanMaster57]

5 minutes ago, Herkul said:

I will be over clocking it indeed. So far this is my to buy list:

 

Asus Prime Z490-A motherboard

Crucial Ballistix RGB White 2x16GB DDR4 3000MHZ

Deepcool GameStorm Castle 240EX

Intel Core i9-10850K

Corsair iCUE 4000X RGB (Not sure if the case is good enough to keep everything cool)

 

What do you think? As you said, the cooler might not be enough, perhaps Noctua NH D15? But it wont look aesthetically nice ahahaha.

A 240EX would be fine for either the 11700k or 10850k (again, the general recommendation here is the 10850k) but I personally would get a Liquid Freezer ii or EK 240mm AIO. If you want to go air, the NH-D15 can hold down even most HEDT CPUs, and black versions exist as well. I personally like the Dark Rock Pro 4 more but both are good.

[Mister Woof]

I chose the 10900KF over the 11700k. Presently on a 5.1ghz-5.3ghz enhanced turbo table. I'm using a 360mm AIO, Corsair H150i Capellix Elite.

 

No regrets.

[Jurrunio]

10 minutes ago, Herkul said:

I will be over clocking it indeed. So far this is my to buy list:

 

Asus Prime Z490-A motherboard

Crucial Ballistix RGB White 2x16GB DDR4 3000MHZ

Deepcool GameStorm Castle 240EX

Intel Core i9-10850K

Corsair iCUE 4000X RGB (Not sure if the case is good enough to keep everything cool)

 

What do you think? As you said, the cooler might not be enough, perhaps Noctua NH D15? But it wont look aesthetically nice ahahaha.

the board can supply the power, tho I think the rear I/O is a bit empty. I recommend Gigabyte's Vision G since it's also white.

 

I dont think 3600MHz ones will cost much more than 3000MHz.

 

Prefer 360mm AIO for OC personally, I know Corsair has one (with Corsair tax ofc) and Enermax liqtech iii also has white version.

 

4000x relies on gaps in the front to feed the radiator, not as good as those with medh fronts for cooling. Not a deal breaker but since it worsens cooling you will need a bigger cooler to cope with the case.

[Herkul]

5 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

the board can supply the power, tho I think the rear I/O is a bit empty. I recommend Gigabyte's Vision G since it's also white.

 

I dont think 3600MHz ones will cost much more than 3000MHz.

 

Prefer 360mm AIO for OC personally, I know Corsair has one (with Corsair tax ofc) and Enermax liqtech iii also has white version.

 

4000x relies on gaps in the front to feed the radiator, not as good as those with medh fronts for cooling. Not a deal breaker but since it worsens cooling you will need a bigger cooler to cope with the case.

I was thinking about vision G but then after watching few review I decided to go with Asus Prime Z490-A.

I think I need to look for a better cooler or another case. Any advice on cases perhaps?

[Mister Woof]

Corsair 4000D/5000D Airflow is good

 

Personally using Corsair 275r Airflow with my 10900KF with a decent OC and a 360mm, works good. Even GPU temps are manageable. 

 

All come in white, as well.

[Jurrunio]

7 minutes ago, Herkul said:

I was thinking about vision G but then after watching few review I decided to go with Asus Prime Z490-A.

which reviews may I ask?

 

7 minutes ago, Herkul said:

Any advice on cases perhaps?

PC-O11 Dynamic, radiator mount is off to the side allowing for good intake while keeping the glass front

Cooler Master H500, mesh in the front.

 

Both have white versions.

[Mister Woof]

 

[Herkul]

2 minutes ago, Mister Woof said:

 

I love the first two. I guess they are both the same. Do they come with included front fan?

[TitanMaster57]

Coughs in P400a/P500a

[jones177]

1 minute ago, Jurrunio said:

Then you're not testing it right. I have doubts on your cooler cooling a 10900k at 330w, but 9900k will definitely crack 200w no problem. Heck even an 8700k can do that after delidding.

I had a i7 8700k and it was much hotter than my i9 9900k. For 5ghz all cores the i9 only needed 1.27v. I did replace my i7 8700k with a i7 8086k and it is cooler than the i9 even though it has a 5.1ghz all core overclock using 1.34v.

 

The 109000k is strange. I have only tested it with Intel's Extreme Tuner past 5.1ghz and it can get through Cinebench R20 at 5.3ghz all cores and stay below 90c but it can't do it in Time Spy. I did not buy it to overclock but to use Thermal Velocity Boost and I am happy with the performance I get doing that.

 

[Mister Woof]

3 minutes ago, Herkul said:

I love the first two. I guess they are both the same. Do they come with included front fan?

First two are 4000D and 5000D, respectively. Size mostly and a few feature differences, but very similar.

 

I believe they come with 2 fans, but you'll likely want to replace them with something fancier anyway.

[Herkul]

Cheers

[jones177]

6 minutes ago, Herkul said:

I love the first two. I guess they are both the same. Do they come with included front fan?

I bought the 5000D last week to re case one of my i7 8086ks. I got it because I can put a hybrid GPUs AIO on the side and still have good air flow over the MB VRMs with the front fans.

It came with 2 black 120mm fans.

 

[Mister Woof]

Regarding power, at 1.28v drooped 5.1ghz all-core, during a stress test like cinebench r23, the CPU package power peaks to around 215w.

 

During normal usage (games, desktop, etc) it's usually around 158w

[Herkul]

56 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

which reviews may I ask?

 

PC-O11 Dynamic, radiator mount is off to the side allowing for good intake while keeping the glass front

Cooler Master H500, mesh in the front.

 

Both have white versions.

I remember why I did not choose vision g. On part picker it states:

Note:The motherboard M.2 slot #1 requires an Intel Rocket Lake-based CPU. When an Intel Rocket Lake-based CPU is not used, the M.2 slot is disabled.

Does it mean that I wont be able to use M.2 slot at all?

[Mister Woof]

8 minutes ago, Herkul said:

I remember why I did not choose vision g. On part picker it states:

Note:The motherboard M.2 slot #1 requires an Intel Rocket Lake-based CPU. When an Intel Rocket Lake-based CPU is not used, the M.2 slot is disabled.

Does it mean that I wont be able to use M.2 slot at all?

All Z590 are like this. The slot only functions with 11th gen chip. Get a board with sufficient number of PCIE3 M.2 slots for your 10th gen chip.

 

Mine has 2 accessible for my 10th gen chip, which I feel is enough.

[Herkul]

7 minutes ago, Mister Woof said:

All Z590 are like this. The slot only functions with 11th gen chip. Get a board with sufficient number of PCIE3 M.2 slots for your 10th gen chip.

 

Mine has 2 accessible for my 10th gen chip, which I feel is enough.

So ASUS PRIME Z490-A Gigabyte Z490 VISION G? Your opinion.

[Mister Woof]

2 minutes ago, Herkul said:

So ASUS PRIME Z490-A Gigabyte Z490 VISION G? Your opinion.

Personally, I like Gigabyte, but know they will basically ignore all Intel recommended power limits. Another user here indicated trouble getting it to even respect any manually entered power limits at all. This isn't an issue if you plan to OC anyway, but be aware.

 

ASUS it seems sticks to Intel power limits for their default load outs.

[Herkul]

43 minutes ago, Mister Woof said:

Personally, I like Gigabyte, but know they will basically ignore all Intel recommended power limits. Another user here indicated trouble getting it to even respect any manually entered power limits at all. This isn't an issue if you plan to OC anyway, but be aware.

 

ASUS it seems sticks to Intel power limits for their default load outs.

That's what I heard too. Thanks. Will choose Asus.

[Jurrunio]

1 hour ago, Herkul said:

I remember why I did not choose vision g. On part picker it states:

Note:The motherboard M.2 slot #1 requires an Intel Rocket Lake-based CPU. When an Intel Rocket Lake-based CPU is not used, the M.2 slot is disabled.

Does it mean that I wont be able to use M.2 slot at all?

I'm talking about the Z490 Vision G tho, not Z590 Vision G. Z490 one does not have this problem

[Herkul]

Can you fit a 360 AIO in Corsair's 4000D Airflow?

[iCoNrant]

1 hour ago, Herkul said:

Can you fit a 360 AIO in Corsair's 4000D Airflow?

At the front will fit. 

[iCoNrant]

13 hours ago, Jurrunio said:

I'm talking about the Z490 Vision G tho, not Z590 Vision G. Z490 one does not have this problem

Z490 Vision G have the top m.2 slot cannot be used if you use comet lake. If you look closely to the picture, It said reserved for future used