Thoughts on the 10900k vs the 11900k before buying?

[bobzen]

So i have looked at some gaming benchmarks and noticed that is some games the 10900k is better than the 11900k and some its not.

I decided to buy the 10900k since i noticed in this video that it has almost same fps in a lot of games if not even better fps in some.

 

Just wanted to post here since im still in a small doubt if im choosing the right cpu of the 2 and just wanted to ask anybody here if they think im doing the right choice or should i buy the 11900k?

Reason i want to be 100% sure im picking the right CPU is because im doing a full custom EK loop on my pc and i dont want to take it apart in a few months because i picked the wrong cpu  

 

btw my build is going to be following

intel i9 10900k (maybe 11900k)

asus strix 3090 OC (already have)

Asus maximus XIII Hero (already have)

G.Skill Trident Z Royal 32gb 3200 mhz (ordering soon)

Full EK custom loop on GPU and CPU

Will be gaming on 1440p but might upgrade to 4K later on

Hopefully someone can point me in the right direction if i should stick with the 10900k or if i should buy the 11900k instead  

PC will be for gaming only and no video edition or anything like that at all

 

[Skiiwee29]

10900k is the better cpu 80-85% of the time. 

[bobzen]

2 minutes ago, Skiiwee29 said:

10900k is the better cpu 80-85% of the time. 

Ah ok awesome thanks for the info.

Yea i figured the 10900k would be better in games than the 11900k because of the 2 extra cores and most games run in multithread just wanted someone with better knowledge than me to clarify this  

Guess im going with the 10900k then  

[Mister Woof]

Debated on this last month using the 11700k Anandtech data.

 

Chose the 10900KF because it was only $399 and I believed it to be a better buy.

 

With fast RAM and an OC, it's on par with the 5000 series chips.

 

I do not regret it.

 

I would not recommend DDR 3200 memory. Get 4000+. Despite popular belief, Intel does benefit from RAM speed, especially when CPU limited. You don't see it in the testing they usually do because often it's in GPU limited scenarios.

 

Here's one example of a CPU-sensitive game where memory speeds make a huge difference.

 

3200 is fine for typical builds, but if you're using a 3090 and a 10 core CPU, get the faster memory.

[curiousmind34]

6 minutes ago, bobzen said:

Ah ok awesome thanks for the info.

Yea i figured the 10900k would be better in games than the 11900k because of the 2 extra cores and most games run in multithread just wanted someone with better knowledge than me to clarify this  

Guess im going with the 10900k then  

The price gap between them is also over 100 dollars, so even if the 11900k was up to 10% faster it wouldn’t make sense.

Also as @Mister Woofsaid, a 10900kf is selling for around 400 ($420 at B&H), and it is not really a bad value compared to ryzen CPUs.

[jones177]

Most of the popular Youtubers ran the i9 11900k without using all the boosts so their "out of the box" numbers are a bit pointless to me. 

Here is one channel that used all of them.

 

The i9 11900k is way too expensive and since the i9 10900k exists at the same price as the R7 5800x. Those are the best gaming CPUs now.

 

I am keeping my i9 10900k.

When testing my i9 10900k at stock using TVB against my R7 5800X stock the i9 wins at 1440p and 4k usually by 6 frames. All the R7s wins are at 1080p.  Since I am not a 1080p gamer if I had to keep one it would be the i9.

 

PCIe 4 has not made things notably faster on the Ryzen either so I can live without it.

 

If the price of the i9 11900k dose not put you off get it. I am happy with the i9 10900k and will wait until next Gen to upgrade. 

 

58 minutes ago, Mister Woof said:

With fast RAM and an OC, it's on par with the 5000 series chips.

My R7 5800X dose great Chinebench scores but it has not beaten the stock i9 10900k or my old i7 8086k(5ghz all cores) in games at 1440p and 4k yet.

I mainly got the R7 for my modded building games to see if the extra IPC helps. It does so I am not unhappy with it. 

Both CPUs run games flawlessly but it will still be fun to see which one does the most frames.

 

 

[xg32]

2 hours ago, bobzen said:

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For competitive games that run at extremely high fps, 10900k seems to do better, while the 11900k might do better later on with microcode updates i wouldnt count on it. So 10900k is the choice here, if you didn't get the motherboard yet then the 5950x would be the pick to squeeze the most out of a 3090.

[Mister Woof]

I'd like to add that if I could actually have got one at MSRP, I'd have chosen the 5900x over the 10900KF.

 

Definitely 5900x over 11900k.

[bobzen]

On 4/2/2021 at 5:46 PM, jones177 said:

Most of the popular Youtubers ran the i9 11900k without using all the boosts so their "out of the box" numbers are a bit pointless to me. 

Here is one channel that used all of them.

 

The i9 11900k is way too expensive and since the i9 10900k exists at the same price as the R7 5800x. Those are the best gaming CPUs now.

 

I am keeping my i9 10900k.

When testing my i9 10900k at stock using TVB against my R7 5800X stock the i9 wins at 1440p and 4k usually by 6 frames. All the R7s wins are at 1080p.  Since I am not a 1080p gamer if I had to keep one it would be the i9.

 

PCIe 4 has not made things notably faster on the Ryzen either so I can live without it.

 

If the price of the i9 11900k dose not put you off get it. I am happy with the i9 10900k and will wait until next Gen to upgrade. 

 

My R7 5800X dose great Chinebench scores but it has not beaten the stock i9 10900k or my old i7 8086k(5ghz all cores) in games at 1440p and 4k yet.

I mainly got the R7 for my modded building games to see if the extra IPC helps. It does so I am not unhappy with it. 

Both CPUs run games flawlessly but it will still be fun to see which one does the most frames.

 

 

The price doesn't matter. I just want the best overall gaming cpu between the 10900k and 11900k and dont know which one to pick but i saw the video you posted and noticed that in some games the 11900k is better but in some its not as i wrote in OP. Im still a little torn between the 2 cpu's on which to choose and was wondering if if anyone here can point me in a direction.

The price DOES NOT matter to me so if we are looking away from the high price which of the 2 CPU's is the best for gaming? is it the 11900k or 10900k cpu?  

Thanks for the answers!  

[bobzen]

On 4/2/2021 at 7:12 PM, xg32 said:

For competitive games that run at extremely high fps, 10900k seems to do better, while the 11900k might do better later on with microcode updates i wouldnt count on it. So 10900k is the choice here, if you didn't get the motherboard yet then the 5950x would be the pick to squeeze the most out of a 3090.

Ok so the 10900k should be the best of the 10900k and 11900k for gaming?

I dont mind the high price of the 11900k if thats the best cpu for gaming i just want the best LGA 1200 gaming cpu thats on the market at the moment  

even if its only 5-10% performance boost  

[jones177]

1 minute ago, bobzen said:

The price doesn't matter. I just want the best overall gaming cpu between the 10900k and 11900k and dont know which one to pick but i saw the video you posted and noticed that in some games the 11900k is better but in some its not as i wrote in OP. Im still a little torn between the 2 cpu's on which to choose and was wondering if if anyone here can point me in a direction.

The price DOES NOT matter to me so if we are looking away from the high price which of the 2 CPU's is the best for gaming? is it the 11900k or 10900k cpu?  

Thanks for the answers!  

I bought the R7 5800x for the higher IPC to run my modded/building games. My i9 10900k can run these games smoothly using TVB or a 5.2/5.3ghz overclock. The 5800x can do it stock. Since the i9 11900k has about the same IPC as a 5800x it will perform about the same with these types of games. If it was priced even close to a 5800x I would have consider it. 

I use more than one computer.  For doing this(forums) I use my i9 9900k with a 1080 ti. For vanilla games I use the i9 10900k using TVB and 2080 ti.  The 5800x will run games like Space Engineers that have so much content added that they are unpayable on an Intel 8th, 9th and 10th gen CPU without an all core 5ghz overclock or in the case of the i9 10900k TVB.

If I used one computer the best choice now would be the i9 11900k but like when I bought the RTX 2080 tis I would not have good feeling paying the price. 

 

[bobzen]

5 hours ago, jones177 said:

I bought the R7 5800x for the higher IPC to run my modded/building games. My i9 10900k can run these games smoothly using TVB or a 5.2/5.3ghz overclock. The 5800x can do it stock. Since the i9 11900k has about the same IPC as a 5800x it will perform about the same with these types of games. If it was priced even close to a 5800x I would have consider it. 

I use more than one computer.  For doing this(forums) I use my i9 9900k with a 1080 ti. For vanilla games I use the i9 10900k using TVB and 2080 ti.  The 5800x will run games like Space Engineers that have so much content added that they are unpayable on an Intel 8th, 9th and 10th gen CPU without an all core 5ghz overclock or in the case of the i9 10900k TVB.

If I used one computer the best choice now would be the i9 11900k but like when I bought the RTX 2080 tis I would not have good feeling paying the price. 

 

Oh ok so the 11900k is better than the 10900k when it comes to gaming?  

Im not that much into hardware i know the basics of it but thats pretty much about that hence why im asking for opinions here because i dont know which cpu to buy  

[heickelrrx]

11900k basically Intel way of selling you the best binned 11700k die

 

think of it of official way of sillicon lottery 

[Mister Woof]

57 minutes ago, bobzen said:

Oh ok so the 11900k is better than the 10900k when it comes to gaming?  

Im not that much into hardware i know the basics of it but thats pretty much about that hence why im asking for opinions here because i dont know which cpu to buy  

Sometimes, in some games, but not all the time. Most are almost even, with a few going one way and a few going the other, with 11900k wins being basically margin of error.

 

For me, a true successor needs to be better all the time. Which is why I had such a hard time accepting the 9700k since it wasn't always better than the 8700k.

 

Since it's not better all the time at everything than the i9, it shouldn't have been called an i9. It should have just been an i7, as it is better all the time at everything than the 10700k.

 

Was the 5800x only "sometimes" better than the 3800x? Or the 3800x vs the 2700x? or the 2700x over the 1800x? No, it was better every time at everything.

[jones177]

28 minutes ago, bobzen said:

Oh ok so the 11900k is better than the 10900k when it comes to gaming?  

Im not that much into hardware i know the basics of it but thats pretty much about that hence why im asking for opinions here because i dont know which cpu to buy  

Games that like frequency will run about the same on both CPUs. Games that like higher IPC will do better on the i9 11900k.  

 

If I was building now it would be the i9 11900k since its extra IPC will give me more head room in my modded/building games.  I also don't need the 2 extra cores since I only game.

If I went back to doing 3D I would not consider the 8 core over the 10 core at all.