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1 hour ago, EpicGamer835 said:

So my dell Inspiron laptop supports 24 bit 192 kHz so will it support any wireless codec like  ldac or wav for hi res audio like the wh-1000xm4....or wired 990kbps?

 

 

It doesn't matter. What content do you have that is recorded and distributed at 192 kHz sample rates? As I mentioned, even the best converters aren't getting the full 24 bits of dynamic range out of the converters they're using.

 

The fact is that you're still limited in the analog domain at some point. Who cares if your converter has 24 bits of dynamic range if the noise floor is at -80 dBu because it was designed on a shoestring budget by someone who Chegged their way through the only analog design course they ever took in college? All kidding aside, I've seen consumer gear that boasts about "high resolution audio" where the noise floor is sitting at -78 dBu. I can get that kind of performance out of a vacuum tube circuit without even trying. 

 

Distortion is a whole other can of worms that I won't go into right now. The point is, marketing BS is marketing BS. Marketing is notorious for exagerating the performance of products by using buzzwords that have little to no meaning but sound impressive to the average consumer.

We know that,

hi res audio what is 

but some products has written hi res audio mark on them like msi creater 17 and realme x7 pro but ldac supports all android from 8.0 then why we need a product that supports hi res audio labelled important  or dac?

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5 minutes ago, EpicGamer835 said:

An incomprehensible rant

In English, please?

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Alright.... I'll take a stab at it....

 

High res is a spec, but also mostly marketing.

You don't need it 99.9% of the time if you're not specifically an audio enthusiast, so just treat them as features and not necessities.

Most of your music/audio formats are not going to care either way.

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Both photos show that clearly mentioned or highlighted that hi res audio is a feature.

whereas the other smartphone manufacturers like Samsung or one plus have been supporting ldac(hi res) then why they haven’t mentioned it.....?

and another pic is of msi creater 17 only this laptop mentioned hi res audio but mine dell laptop also have 24bit 192khz   option but they haven’t mentioned hi res audio 

is hi res audio something else ?

 

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It means nothing, ignore it.

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Marketing BS.

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It's all just whether companies choose to quote the specs from the DAC chip's datasheet in their own specs. I find it rather annoying, because most of the time they're listing specs they can't meet. 

 

-Unless you're doing measurements, there's no real use for 192 kHz sample rates. Almost no playback sources support it anyways. It's more useful on the line input side, since 192 kHz sample rates theoretically allows a bandwidth of almost 90 kHz, which is useful for FFT software. If you were messing with this kind of thing, however, you wouldn't be asking this question.

-None of these products will be able to utilize the full 24-bits of dynamic range that these chips offer. 

-None of these products will meet the distortion specs of the chips.

 

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7 hours ago, H713 said:

It's all just whether companies choose to quote the specs from the DAC chip's datasheet in their own specs. I find it rather annoying, because most of the time they're listing specs they can't meet. 

 

-Unless you're doing measurements, there's no real use for 192 kHz sample rates. Almost no playback sources support it anyways. It's more useful on the line input side, since 192 kHz sample rates theoretically allows a bandwidth of almost 90 kHz, which is useful for FFT software. If you were messing with this kind of thing, however, you wouldn't be asking this question.

-None of these products will be able to utilize the full 24-bits of dynamic range that these chips offer. 

-None of these products will meet the distortion specs of the chips.

 

So my dell Inspiron laptop supports 24 bit 192 kHz so will it suppport any wireless codec like  ldac or wav for hi res audio like the wh-1000xm4....or wired 990kbps?

 

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1 hour ago, EpicGamer835 said:

So my dell Inspiron laptop supports 24 bit 192 kHz so will it support any wireless codec like  ldac or wav for hi res audio like the wh-1000xm4....or wired 990kbps?

 

 

It doesn't matter. What content do you have that is recorded and distributed at 192 kHz sample rates? As I mentioned, even the best converters aren't getting the full 24 bits of dynamic range out of the converters they're using.

 

The fact is that you're still limited in the analog domain at some point. Who cares if your converter has 24 bits of dynamic range if the noise floor is at -80 dBu because it was designed on a shoestring budget by someone who Chegged their way through the only analog design course they ever took in college? All kidding aside, I've seen consumer gear that boasts about "high resolution audio" where the noise floor is sitting at -78 dBu. I can get that kind of performance out of a vacuum tube circuit without even trying. 

 

Distortion is a whole other can of worms that I won't go into right now. The point is, marketing BS is marketing BS. Marketing is notorious for exagerating the performance of products by using buzzwords that have little to no meaning but sound impressive to the average consumer.

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