Looking for a Canon APSC camera

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1 minute ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

You probably don't need the burst speed or AF speed on the 7d2, and 80d really isn't bad at af and 7fps burst is normally plenty.

its not that

my old xti

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7dmk2

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button placement is nearly the same

2 minutes ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

Its a bit what? 80d seems to have a better sensor, so image quality would be a bit better.

yes the 80d is a bit better, but I feel like I can adapt to the 7dmk2 it better.

 

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3 minutes ago, sub68 said:

button placement is nearly the same

You will get used to a different button layout very quickly, I wouldn't worry about button layout. Also the touch screen on the 80d is nice to have, and some menu functions much easier.

 

I went from a 7d to a r5 recently. Much different button layout, but learned it super fast, about a week and I was about as fast on the r5.

 

4 minutes ago, sub68 said:

yes the 80d is a bit better, but I feel like I can adapt to the 7dmk2 it better.

 

I still fell like the 80d is the better pick here.

 

Even with buttons, Id say the 80d does some things better, like the image review on the right side of the screen.

 

Id also say the button layout on the 7d2 and the xti is pretty different. The 7d2 has the rear dial for exposure comp , it has the joystick for af location, id has a af-on button, mode dial ins on the right, there is a top screen. ISO/WB/Drive/AF buttons are on the top instead of the back.

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2 minutes ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

You will get used to a different button layout very quickly

not really I am still getting used to a GX85

5 minutes ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

I still fell like the 80d is the better pick here.

I have seen that camera everywhere I have even used a 60d for a little bit.

I just feel like I don't want to follow smth, I am just trying to say I am looking for a camera that fits me.

As someone that is coming from a 15 year old camera I really don't care about specs.

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1 minute ago, sub68 said:

not really I am still getting used to a GX85

I have seen that camera everywhere I have even used a 60d for a little bit.

I just feel like I don't want to follow smth, I am just trying to say I am looking for a camera that fits me.

As someone that is coming from a 15 year old camera I really don't care about specs.

Can you find a store to try the cameras at? That seems to be the best bet.

 

Im still not sure how a 7d2 fits you better. The 80d seems to be the better camera here in almost every way. Really don't worry about the button layout, you will learn if fast if you use it.

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Just now, Electronics Wizardy said:

Can you find a store to try the cameras at? That seems to be the best bet.

no,sadly I know that the 60d has pretty much the same grip

2 minutes ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

Really don't worry about the button layout, you will learn if fast if you use it

I have been using that GX85 for 3 months so...

3 minutes ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

Im still not sure how a 7d2 fits you better. The 80d seems to be the better camera here in almost every way.

I don't like the flip screen it just bugs me

I personally don't do video

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1 minute ago, sub68 said:

I don't like the flip screen it just bugs me

I personally don't do video

The filp screen is also nice for photos, like getting super lower or high shots, or when the camera is against a wall

 

 

2 minutes ago, sub68 said:

no,sadly I know that the 60d has pretty much the same grip

6 minutes ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

What don't you like about he 60d grip? The 7d is pretty similar in grip size/layout.

 

 

3 minutes ago, sub68 said:

I have been using that GX85 for 3 months so...

What haven't you gotten used to on the gx85?

 

Also why notuse that? Its a pretty good camera, what don't you like about it?

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Just now, Electronics Wizardy said:

What don't you like about he 60d grip? The 7d is pretty similar in grip size/layout

I am not looking negatively at the grip the comma was meant after sadly.

1 minute ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

Also why notuse that? Its a pretty good camera, what don't you like about it?

grip, battery life, being my dads camera.

I just don't like mirroless

2 minutes ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

What haven't you gotten used to on the gx85?

I mess up the buttons everytime.

2 minutes ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

The filp screen is also nice for photos, like getting super lower or high shots, or when the camera is against a wall

I can probably see that in live view.

My old XTi had no live view so I am used to that.

I just don't like that mecanisium just something that I feel like I would break.

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38 minutes ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

Its a bit what? 80d seems to have a better sensor, so image quality would be a bit better. At around the same price why not get the 80d. You probably don't need the burst speed or AF speed on the 7d2, and 80d really isn't bad at af and 7fps burst is normally plenty.

the 80D is better I agree

 

43 minutes ago, sub68 said:

Me and @GDRRiley concluded its a bit

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2 minutes ago, sub68 said:

grip, battery life, being my dads camera.

I just don't like mirroless

Ok that explains it.

 

One thing is current gen mirrorless is a big step up. On my r5 the view finder is darn good, with basically no lag and pixelation. And it allows for much better auto focus and seeing the exposure much better before the shotl

 

2 minutes ago, sub68 said:

I can probably see that in live view.

My old XTi had no live view so I am used to that.

I just don't like that mecanisium just something that I feel like I would break.

There pretty durable. Just leave the screen in and it won't break any more than the normal screen. And those cameras can take a look, don't worry about breaking it.

 

3 minutes ago, sub68 said:

I am not looking negatively at the grip the comma was meant after sadly.

So did you like the layout of the 60d or not? What did you think of the 60d?

 

 

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Just now, GDRRiley said:

?

we concluded that the Dynamic range is a bit better on a 80d

1 minute ago, GDRRiley said:

the 80D is better I agree

I know I just don't like the rest.

I don't like flip screens.

I like dual card slots cause things have happened.

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1 minute ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

There pretty durable. Just leave the screen in and it won't break any more than the normal screen. And those cameras can take a look, don't worry about breaking it.

I have the tendency to break things weirdly so ANY small things that stick out to me on a daily used thing will probably break.

3 minutes ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

One thing is current gen mirrorless is a big step up. On my r5 the view finder is darn good, with basically no lag and pixelation. And it allows for much better auto focus and seeing the exposure much better before the shotl

I know the R series is good I just can't afford it and the M50 is just a toy to me.

 

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then move to fuji
want the best build quality outside of the 3000$ pro line bodies, thats going to be them

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Just now, GDRRiley said:

then move to fuji

Problem is I CAN'T GET INTO THAT LENS SYSTEM.

I personally like canons eco system.

I also just like how canon function I am used to it and love it.

Panasonic is meh

Nikon is ok

Samsung was very werid.

 

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Just now, sub68 said:

I have the tendency to break things weirdly so ANY small things that stick out to me on a daily used thing will probably break.

4 minutes ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

Just leave the screen in then 99% of the time. You will be happy for that 1% when you need weird shot, and the other 99% of the time it won't be any more likely to have issues. Also touch screen is nice to have.

5 minutes ago, sub68 said:

know I just don't like the rest.

I don't like flip screens.

I like dual card slots cause things have happened.

But the 80d has better low light, better dynamic range, and better color depth, and higher resolution. Its just a better sensor overall.

 

Dual cards is nice, but with good cards, id say its not a huge issue. The older cameras have more issue than the current ones. Id also not keep photos on cards for long, copy them to a computer then format them.

 

 

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1 minute ago, sub68 said:

Problem is I CAN'T GET INTO THAT LENS SYSTEM.

I personally like canons eco system.

you've got enough old glass that can be adapted

to me there is 0 to like about canon other than they got like 40 years of lenses

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10 minutes ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

Just leave the screen in then 99% of the time. You will be happy for that 1% when you need weird shot, and the other 99% of the time it won't be any more likely to have issues. Also touch screen is nice to have.

I am sorry if this gets weird, but I am used to nontouch screen cameras and static screens I just find that flip screens are kinda flimsily.

I also find my self putting my entire cheek agents the screen and I like that I still can see what my camera settings are on display.

10 minutes ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

Dual cards is nice, but with good cards, id say its not a huge issue.

its not that, I like having flexibility to give the person that runs a event that I am shooting a card after I am done.

 

8 minutes ago, GDRRiley said:

you've got enough old glass that can be adapted

to me there is 0 to like about canon other than they got like 40 years of lenses

True... than again my parent are only paying for a camera and not a adapter and I will be broke after the camera.

I also like that I can use a battery from a friend if I use canon.

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@Electronics Wizardy and @GDRRiley

I am so sorry if I sound mad/angry I am trying to finish something last minute and its 2150 over here.

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1 minute ago, sub68 said:

I am sorry if this gets weird, but I am used to nontouch screen cameras and static screens I just find that flip screens are kinda flimsily.

I also find my self putting my entire cheek agents the screen and still can see what my camera settings are on display.

 

True... than again my parent are only paying for a camera and not a adapter and I will be broke after the camera.

I also like that I can use a battery from a friend if I use canon.

canons flip screens aren't weak. I've only seen 1 break off and 1 damaged with high schoolers using them

thats fine, its not a big deal

 

the passive adapters are 10-20$ each 
most of the fuji support USB-C charging

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1 minute ago, sub68 said:

@Electronics Wizardy and @GDRRiley

I am so sorry if I sound mad/angry I am trying to finish something last minute and its 2150 over here.

then finish it and deal with this later

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Just now, GDRRiley said:

canons flip screens aren't weak. I've only seen 1 break off and 1 damaged with high schoolers using them

thats fine, its not a big deal

I am probably more careful than most.

Just now, GDRRiley said:

the passive adapters are 10-20$ each 

yeah but still I like having ful camera lens control

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2 minutes ago, sub68 said:

I am sorry if this gets weird, but I am used to nontouch screen cameras and static screens I just find that flip screens are kinda flimsily.

I also find my self putting my entire cheek agents the screen and still can see what my camera settings are on display.

The nice things with that camera is you have a top lcd, so you basically never need to look at the back screen when shooting.

 

The flippy screen won't be a big issue, just don't flip it out and igore it. Touch screen is great, make some menu things faster, and if you use live view its great for picking af points.

 

1 minute ago, GDRRiley said:

he passive adapters are 10-20$ each 

I will warn you probably dont want a passive adapter, as you can't change aperture, use is or auto focus. I wouldn't not want to use a modern lens with a passive adapter.

 

4 minutes ago, sub68 said:

its not that, I like having flexibility to give the person that runs a event that I am shooting a card after I am done.

 

Can you copy and paste the files to anouther card super easily?
 

ALso I don't give raw files out to clients/friends. I always sort and edit first, but thats me

 

 

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1 minute ago, GDRRiley said:

then finish it and deal with this later

True, I just want to get out of what is in my head

3 minutes ago, GDRRiley said:

most of the fuji support USB-C charging

does it support a 10 watt charger?

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Just now, Electronics Wizardy said:

I will warn you probably dont want a passive adapter, as you can't change aperture, use is or auto focus. I wouldn't not want to use a modern lens with a passive adapter.

 

ALso I don't give raw files out to clients/friends. I always sort and edit first, but thats me

I'm not talking about the newer canon lenses but like his old full manual 400mm

 

I don't ether for most gigs

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1 minute ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

Can you copy and paste the files to anouther card super easily?
 

ALso I don't give raw files out to clients/friends. I always sort and edit first, but thats me

I work with another editor.

I also shoot mostly JPEG cause I find I can still do work but rapidly give it.

As for copy paste, no, I work places were I don't want to take a laptop.

3 minutes ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

The nice things with that camera is you have a top lcd, so you basically never need to look at the back screen when shooting.

I forgot about that.

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2 minutes ago, GDRRiley said:

I'm not talking about the newer canon lenses but like his old full manual 400mm

but I don't use that alot.

I mostly use a mid range zoom.