Looking for a Canon APSC camera

[sub68]

My canon XTi I have been using has died.

I am looking for a good photography camera.

So I am looking at used cameras.

I have been looking at canons because I have a ton of canon glass.

I like the idea of buying used because its cheaper but still great.

I have been looking at.

60D

70D

80D

7D Mark II

7D

[Electronics Wizardy]

What features do you need/want?

 

Budget?

 

id probably go 80d here, or t8i if you want to save a buck.

[Hackentosher]

iirc, the 70D is a pretty big step up over the 80D, especially in terms of video performance, and the 7D was supposed to be like a pro body with an APS-C sensor. I never really understood the 7D, but it had one of the fastest shutters in canon's line up besides the 1DX. The 7D also is supposed to have some very good weather sealing which is nice to have. Looking at the product page, the 7D has more AF points than the 80D, but the 80D captures 4 more MP (if that matters to you). I rely pretty heavily on AF, so I'd probably chose the 7D II between the two, but budget is the ultimate decider.

 

I'm curious as to why you're not also considering the 6D. It's pretty affordable and offers some pretty good performance. AF system leaves some things to be desired though, I believe it might be the same system as my T5.

[sub68]

2 minutes ago, Hackentosher said:

but budget is the ultimate decider.

 

3 minutes ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

Budget?

ok here is the thing I am looking at used no eBay using adronama used and B&H used.

also my parents are going to pay half

Canon 60d is 300 ish USD

Canon 70D is about 400USD

canon 80d is 700 USD

7d mk2 is 800USD

7d is 290

4 minutes ago, Hackentosher said:

I'm curious as to why you're not also considering the 6D.

cause full frame I don't have the lenses I want for cheap

[Hackentosher]

1 minute ago, sub68 said:

ok here is the thing I am looking at used no eBay using adronama used and B&H used.

Yeah eBay is quite a gamble. I bought a 6D from there and it came with a scratched sensor. I would highly recommend used photo retailers like UsedPhotoPro (used arm of Roberts Camera) and MPB. I would avoid KEH as they don't really show you what you're buying, but the other two are good. They tend to have more selection and lower prices than the used sections at B&H and Adorama.

1 minute ago, sub68 said:

also my parents are going to pay half

canon 80d is 700 USD

7d mk2 is 800USD

I think if you guys can make one of these two work, it would be a good choice.

1 minute ago, sub68 said:

cause full frame I don't have the lenses I want for cheap

Do you only have EF-S glass?

[Electronics Wizardy]

4 minutes ago, sub68 said:

7d is 290

I have this, not bad, but pretty old now. Id probalby stay away

7

4 minutes ago, sub68 said:

d mk2 is 800USD

Id probably avoid unless you need the auto focus or burst speeds. Its a older gen cameras now, and I think the 70/80d would be a abit better image quality wise

 

5 minutes ago, sub68 said:

Canon 70D is about 400USD

probably the go to for cheap ish. Id say the 80d isn't relaly worth it and get this.

 

 

Ifyou can do a$1000 id be tempted to get a eos rp. Full frame, but can use apsc lenses with a crop, and full frame lenses.

[sub68]

Just now, Hackentosher said:

Do you only have EF-S glass?

I have 400mm f/5.6 with a T2 to EF so its full frame

50mm 1.8 (cheap china nock off that I use for some things but auto fouces is slow)

18-55mm kit lens

2 minutes ago, Hackentosher said:

I think if you guys can make one of these two work, it would be a good choice.

ok good to know

3 minutes ago, Hackentosher said:

I would highly recommend used photo retailers like UsedPhotoPro (used arm of Roberts Camera) and MPB.

ok I didn't know this existed

 

[Electronics Wizardy]

Just now, sub68 said:

have 400mm f/5.6 with a T2 to EF so its full frame

50mm 1.8 (cheap china nock off that I use for some things but auto fouces is slow)

18-55mm kit lens

So the 18-55 is your only aps-c lens? Id get a 6d then. The 18-55 isn't a reason to stay on aps-c in my view.

 

 

[sub68]

2 minutes ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

Id probably avoid unless you need the auto focus or burst speeds. Its a older gen cameras now, and I think the 70/80d would be a abit better image quality wise

ok

I have very wired conflicting evidence lol

I am fine with a last gen camera tbh

3 minutes ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

I have this, not bad, but pretty old now. Id probalby stay away

yeah I was thinking of pulling out the 7d

4 minutes ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

probably the go to for cheap ish. Id say the 80d isn't relaly worth it and get this.

ok

[sub68]

3 minutes ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

So the 18-55 is your only aps-c lens? Id get a 6d then. The 18-55 isn't a reason to stay on aps-c in my view.

except my 50mm is utter junk and I don't want to shell out another grand or more money for a used 24-70mm

[Hackentosher]

7 minutes ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

So the 18-55 is your only aps-c lens? Id get a 6d then. The 18-55 isn't a reason to stay on aps-c in my view.

This is what I did. I keep my aps-c body and 18-55 in the bag and picked up a 24-105 F4L to pair with the 6D. The 24-105 isn't the sharpest lens Canon has ever made, but damn is it a step up over kit lenses on a cropped bodies. Again, the AF system on the 6D is old. It's fast enough, but not a ton of points and no video autofocus.

 

edit: looks like the 24-105 has gone up a bit in price since I bought mine (I think I paid $330), but they can be had for under $400 https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=ef+24-105mm+f%2F4l+is+usm&_sacat=0&rt=nc&LH_Complete=1

[Electronics Wizardy]

1 minute ago, sub68 said:

except my 50mm is utter junk and I don't want to shell out another grand or more money for a used 24-70mm

Probably just go 70d then. THe image quality is about the same on the aps-c cameras, but that 18-55 isn't really a great lens.

 

Probably not worth the money to go full frame here.

[sub68]

2 minutes ago, Hackentosher said:

picked up a 24-105 F4L to pair with the 6D. The 24-105

 

8 minutes ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

So the 18-55 is your only aps-c lens? Id get a 6d then. The 18-55 isn't a reason to stay on aps-c in my view.

ok a 6d + 24-105 is about a grand

and 500 USD is going to take forever for me to get.

 

[Hackentosher]

1 minute ago, sub68 said:

ok a 6d + 24-105 is about a grand

and 500 USD is going to take forever for me to get.

Yeah sounds about right lol. I wasn't sure what the actual limit of the budget was, but if your only income is allowance, probably best to shoot for the 70D.

[sub68]

2 minutes ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

Probably just go 70d then. THe image quality is about the same on the aps-c cameras

ok good to know

2 minutes ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

but that 18-55 isn't really a great lens.

I KNOW I CAN'T AFFORD THAT MUCH

I was in the process of saving for a sigma 17-70 but this has changed everything.

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/909806-REG/Sigma_884101_17_70mm_f_2_8_4_DC_Macro.html

 

[sub68]

1 minute ago, Hackentosher said:

Yeah sounds about right lol. I wasn't sure what the actual limit of the budget was, but if your only income is allowance, probably best to shoot for the 70D.

I am going to get a summer job finally

I am going to get a A++ certification from my school

But I am trying to save for a camera fast b4 summer

[Electronics Wizardy]

2 minutes ago, sub68 said:

ok good to know

I KNOW I CAN'T AFFORD THAT MUCH

I was in the process of saving for a sigma 17-70 but this has changed everything.

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/909806-REG/Sigma_884101_17_70mm_f_2_8_4_DC_Macro.html

 

Id personally get different lenses or primes instead of anouther midrange zoom. Id probably get a 10-18, 35mm f2, 50mm f1.8 as a next lens. Im not a huge fan of midrange zooms, but thats me.

[SupaKomputa]

19 minutes ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

So the 18-55 is your only aps-c lens? Id get a 6d then. The 18-55 isn't a reason to stay on aps-c in my view.

 

 

Better get a used sony A7 mk1/2 if lens is not the problem.

[sub68]

Just now, Electronics Wizardy said:

50mm f1.8 as a next lens

laughs with china nock off

I do use it its just not a good main lens

2 minutes ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

Im not a huge fan of midrange zooms, but thats me.

I find my self using one all the time

[sub68]

3 minutes ago, SupaKomputa said:

Better get a used sony A7 mk1/2 if lens is not the problem.

Frick sony cams that I will never be able to use

cause I wouldnt be able to buy adapters

[Electronics Wizardy]

Just now, sub68 said:

laughs with china nock off

I do use it its just not a good main lens

I find my self using one all the time

Im a big fan of the 10-18 I have, pretty cheap, and gets lots of cool shots. 

 

 35mm is not a bad focal length as a main lens, really depends on what you shoot.

 

From what ive seen about that sigma, its a bet better than the kit lens, but not a huge upgrade. Id personally not get it, but thats me.

[sub68]

1 minute ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

Im a big fan of the 10-18 I have, pretty cheap, and gets lots of cool shots. 

wide angle lenses is not for me

1 minute ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

35mm is not a bad focal length as a main lens, really depends on what you shoot.

yeah thats to wide

1 minute ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

From what ive seen about that sigma, its a bet better than the kit lens, but not a huge upgrade. Id personally not get it, but thats me.

yeah I do a lot of things

but a 24-70 or 24-105mm would do better TBH

[Electronics Wizardy]

Just now, sub68 said:

yeah thats to wide

Just crop it? You can do a 2x crop and still have plenty of detail.

 

also 35mm on asp-c really isn't that wide.

[sub68]

Just now, Electronics Wizardy said:

Just crop it? You can do a 2x crop and still have plenty of detail.

 

also 35mm on asp-c really isn't that wide.

agh don't tempt me with more lenses

[GDRRiley]

11 hours ago, sub68 said:

but a 24-70 or 24-105mm would do better TBH

24-105 F4 is worth it. I'll take a stop slower with IS and a much bigger zoom range. it replaced my EF-S 18-135

 

your glass collection isn't that big I'd almost consider XT-30, I see used on B&H for around 700$ or XT-20 I see those for 450 on lens authority

if you haven't looked on this site yet your missing out on good used deals. this is all used rental equipment from lens rentals
https://www.lensauthority.com/