nvdia's solution regarding the stock issue

[linusface]

do you think that re-introducing the 2060 was a good idea for the stock problem

[mr cheese]

I mean, considering how fast even the 1660ti and 1660 super are flying off the shelves even now, I'd say that yeah, the 2060 super isn't bad to have on the market for those quick-and-easy upgrades and builds in 2021

[bellabichon]

In the interim, I guess any stock of any GPU helps, but buying one right now is a pretty terrible idea. The 3060 is going to be significantly faster than the 2060, at a lower MSRP ($329 vs. $349). It also feels kinda scummy for Nvidia to be peddling 2-year-old hardware just because consumers are desperate.  

[porina]

19 minutes ago, linusface said:

do you think that re-introducing the 2060 was a good idea for the stock problem

I was wondering how bad it was, but when I saw the used pricing earlier today, that's when it really sank in how bad things are right now. Forget the high end stuff, if you just want an affordable starter gaming system, even used GPUs from several years ago have gone up a lot. I saw many RX 580 8GB selling on ebay for over double what market was just a few months ago. So, anything to increase meaningful supply would help.

 

4 minutes ago, DaJakerBoss said:

I mean, considering how fast even the 1660ti and 1660 super are flying off the shelves even now, I'd say that yeah, the 2060 super isn't bad to have on the market for those quick-and-easy upgrades and builds in 2021

The last info I saw suggested only the 2060 vanilla was being re-introduced, not the Super version.

 

2 minutes ago, bellabichon said:

It also feels kinda scummy for Nvidia to be peddling 2-year-old hardware just because consumers are desperate.  

If either nvidia or AMD could increase supply of latest gen, don't you think they would? The talking point around previous gen is that, as it is on an older manufacturing process, they might have an easier time securing short term capacity. This does then strongly imply that the main limiting factor is at the fabs, and not around associated components. If the choice is an older model or nothing at all, which would you go for? As I mentioned above, even used pricing is getting pretty silly. If you're going to pay for it anyway, I'd take the new old gen, rather than used old gen, assuming the pricing isn't too wild between them.

[bellabichon]

5 minutes ago, porina said:

If either nvidia or AMD could increase supply of latest gen, don't you think they would? The talking point around previous gen is that, as it is on an older manufacturing process, they might have an easier time securing short term capacity. This does then strongly imply that the main limiting factor is at the fabs, and not around associated components. If the choice is an older model or nothing at all, which would you go for? As I mentioned above, even used pricing is getting pretty silly. If you're going to pay for it anyway, I'd take the new old gen, rather than used old gen, assuming the pricing isn't too wild between them.

I agree, but I think that Nvidia and AMD both need to be doing more to ensure that customers actually get their hands on cards. Like I said, all supply is good at this point. But neither Nvidia or AMD have shown that they've done any work with their retailer partners to prevent bots, scalping, and marketplace sellers charging ridiculous prices. A GPU in hand is worth two in the bush, but I don't like this band-aid fix, especially since the 2060s will probably sell out instantly and skyrocket in price anyways. 

[xg32]

amd decided to focus on consoles, as for the 30 series, we need to wait for the next eth mining nerf, iirc it's july? i'm likely gonna just wait for next gen. If someone needs a gaming pc atm in a hurry, a 3070 prebuilt is 1600usd, 3080 is 2000usd and a 3090 is 3000usd, though most reviews say the cards look used.

[Exidor]

6 minutes ago, bellabichon said:

I agree, but I think that Nvidia and AMD both need to be doing more to ensure that customers actually get their hands on cards. Like I said, all supply is good at this point. But neither Nvidia or AMD have shown that they've done any work with their retailer partners to prevent bots, scalping, and marketplace sellers charging ridiculous prices. A GPU in hand is worth two in the bush, but I don't like this band-aid fix, especially since the 2060s will probably sell out instantly and skyrocket in price anyways. 

I am more pissed off at all the retailers that started preorders and lock up peoples money for months.

Especially the ones that used a bait and switch tactics telling that a GPU is available but then when people order tell them that it is unavailable.

 

Consumer agencies should crack down on that with fines......

[GoodEnough]

18 minutes ago, porina said:

I saw many RX 580 8GB selling on ebay for over double what market was just a few months ago.

i was lucky enough to get this nitro+ rx 580 8gb for only $130 before prices went to all hell

[MadPistol]

I just looked on newegg and every card priced between $200-300 sold by them is sold out. So yes, this is an excellent solution.

 

[GoodEnough]

2 minutes ago, MadPistol said:

I just looked on newegg and every card priced between $200-300 sold by them is sold out. So yes, this is an excellent solution.

its more of a what people need than a what people want type of solution in my opinion 

[Helpful Tech Witch]

37 minutes ago, bellabichon said:

also feels kinda scummy for Nvidia to be peddling 2-year-old hardware just because consumers are desperate. 

why do you think? Maybe at the price that it's at it's not that gread?, But I'd rather slower gpu then no gpu.

[MadPistol]

1 minute ago, GoodEnough said:

its more of a what people need than a what people want type of solution in my opinion 

Pretty much.

 

It's on TSMC 12nm, which is not the current top in demand nodes of Samsung 8nm or TSMC 7nm. Because of this, Nvidia can ramp up supplies very quickly.

This also unfortunately tends to indicate that current GPU availability probably isn't getting any better any time soon.

[GoodEnough]

1 minute ago, MadPistol said:

This also unfortunately tends to indicate that current GPU availability probably isn't getting any better any time soon.

all we can really do is wait for things like the 3050ti and 6500xt/6300xt (5500xt and 5300xt are almost exactly identical except for the vram)

 

[MadAnt250]

My research shows that there are many new/non new GPU's on the market(maybe not enough), but some jack ass or jack asses who have the stock or keep buying up the the stock are selling them for a stupidly high price. So what happens now is that when something is back in stock at the normal price, it soon becomes out of stock.

[linusface]

2 hours ago, MadAnt250 said:

My research shows that there are many new/non new GPU's on the market(maybe not enough), but some jack ass or jack asses who have the stock or keep buying up the the stock are selling them for a stupidly high price. So what happens now is that when something is back in stock at the normal price, it soon becomes out of stock.

scalpers are cancer