Low FPS in Cyberpunk with RTX 3070 on low settings RT Off

[Incorrectusername]

I'm not sure if anyone else has seen this but I get very bad framerates in cyberpunk. Other games seem to be ok For reference I get about 250+ fps in COD WWII max everything so my card is working.

I recently built a new pc

Ryzen 7 3800x

RTX 3070

64GB Ram 3600mhz

WD NVME SN850

 

And I cannot get more than 66FPS in cyberpunk at 1080p

I can set everything to low, Ray tracing off and maybe get 64-66 fps at most

 

But I can also set everything to ultra, ray tracing on and get 45-55 fps

It just doesn't seem right at all. on low RT off I would guess I should get 100+

Another strange thing is my GPU is at 2-4% usage during this and is at like 40c. However the GPU Memory usage is up around 7gb out of 8

I'm at a loss as what I can do or if there is anything I can do.

Is cyberpunk really that poorly optimized?

Or is something wrong?

[SkilledRebuilds]

Ramspeed?

 

Try going to the gameplay tab,.. and temporarily play using Medium Pedestrian counts and see if that helps your minimums for low settings..

If so,.. the game likely needs further updates or something is also running in the background?

[Incorrectusername]

Ramspeed is 3600mhz.

And I have turned padestirans down as low as they go and can sometimes get about 10 more fps. It just seems very dispraportianet that max everything vs lowest everything is a 20fps difference at most.

I just see some people saying they are playing at 4k with rt on and getting 60+ frames with the same card.

I'm playing at 1080p and can barely get that haha

 

 

[Stahlmann]

10 minutes ago, ThisGuy89 said:

I just see some people saying they are playing at 4k with rt on and getting 60+ frames with the same card.

That's not realistic. Even my 3080 can't get to 4K 60FPS with rt enabled. Only with DLSS to the lowest settings, which makes the game look really bad.

I'm talking about Ultra settings of course, not sure about lower settings.

 

Something is seriously wrong with your setup though, as i get 100+ FPS when playing at 1440p Ultra, no RT, DLSS quality. With RT i'm sitting at around 60FPS with everything Ultra, DLSS quality. Sure i have a 3080, but a 3070 should still do a lot better than what you're getting.

 

Maybe check temps, etc...

 

But in any case, use DLSS. It looks slightly better in some cases, slightly worse in some cases, but pretty much like native when set to "quality" in most cases. It's a no brainer for the extra FPS.

[Hw87634]

27 minutes ago, ThisGuy89 said:

I'm not sure if anyone else has seen this but I get very bad framerates in cyberpunk. Other games seem to be ok For reference I get about 250+ fps in COD WWII max everything so my card is working.

I recently built a new pc

Ryzen 7 3800x

RTX 3070

64GB Ram 3600mhz

WD NVME SN850

 

And I cannot get more than 66FPS in cyberpunk at 1080p

I can set everything to low, Ray tracing off and maybe get 64-66 fps at most

 

But I can also set everything to ultra, ray tracing on and get 45-55 fps

It just doesn't seem right at all. on low RT off I would guess I should get 100+

Another strange thing is my GPU is at 2-4% usage during this and is at like 40c. However the GPU Memory usage is up around 7gb out of 8

I'm at a loss as what I can do or if there is anything I can do.

Is cyberpunk really that poorly optimized?

Or is something wrong?

check this video:

 

[Hw87634]

4 minutes ago, Stahlmann said:

That's not realistic. Even my 3080 can't get to 4K 60FPS with rt enabled. Only with DLSS to the lowest settings, which makes the game look really bad.

I'm talking about Ultra settings of course, not sure about lower settings.

 

Something is seriously wrong with your setup though, as i get 100+ FPS when playing at 1440p Ultra, no RT, DLSS quality. With RT i'm sitting at around 60FPS with everything Ultra, DLSS quality. Sure i have a 3080, but a 3070 should still do a lot better than what you're getting.

 

Maybe check temps, etc...

 

But in any case, use DLSS. It looks slightly better in some cases, slightly worse in some cases, but pretty much like native when set to "quality" in most cases. It's a no brainer for the extra FPS.

I can confirm, with 3080... I get 50/55/60 with optimized settings of the video... RT medium only on reflections, DLSS balanced.

[Stahlmann]

2 minutes ago, Hw87634 said:

I can confirm, with 3080... I get 50/55/60 with optimized settings of the video... RT medium only on reflections, DLSS balanced.

On 4K, lower DLSS settings are a bit more "forgiving". But at 1440p, 1080p you really should only use the "quality" setting, as everything else looks quite bad. Either way, the 3070 should easily run at 1080p 60FPS with ultra and no RT. Even without DLSS.

[Incorrectusername]

16 minutes ago, Stahlmann said:

That's not realistic. Even my 3080 can't get to 4K 60FPS with rt enabled. Only with DLSS to the lowest settings, which makes the game look really bad.

I'm talking about Ultra settings of course, not sure about lower settings.

 

Something is seriously wrong with your setup though, as i get 100+ FPS when playing at 1440p Ultra, no RT, DLSS quality. With RT i'm sitting at around 60FPS with everything Ultra, DLSS quality. Sure i have a 3080, but a 3070 should still do a lot better than what you're getting.

 

Maybe check temps, etc...

 

But in any case, use DLSS. It looks slightly better in some cases, slightly worse in some cases, but pretty much like native when set to "quality" in most cases. It's a no brainer for the extra FPS.

I have dlss set to auto and have also tried medium setting. Doesn't change much.

My temps are all under 50 for everything so that shouldn't be an issue. I'm not expecting 100 fps max setting or anything lol. I just cannot figure out why low setting rt off and high setting rt on are very similar. Just cannot figure it out for the life of me.

 

Ive even turned padestrains to the lowest setting and that can get me up to 70 fps on low everything with rt off.

 

[Stahlmann]

4 minutes ago, ThisGuy89 said:

I have dlss set to auto and have also tried medium setting. Doesn't change much.

My temps are all under 50 for everything so that shouldn't be an issue. I'm not expecting 100 fps max setting or anything lol. I just cannot figure out why low setting rt off and high setting rt on are very similar. Just cannot figure it out for the life of me.

 

Maybe some taxing background apps that use a lot of CPU?

 

I understand what you're saying, but there should be a substatial performance change when enabling/disabling RT. For me it's something like 40% less FPS when enabling RT Ultra.

 

Pretty much the only explaination i have it that you're somehow bottlenecked, but not by the GPU. My GPU runs at 98-100% utilization in this game. No matter if i'm playing at 1440p or 4K. This game normally is completely GPU bound with somewhat current hardware.

[Incorrectusername]

4 minutes ago, Stahlmann said:

Maybe some taxing background apps that use a lot of CPU?

 

I understand what you're saying, but there should be a substatial performance change when enabling/disabling RT. For me it's something like 40% less FPS when enabling RT Ultra.

 

Pretty much the only explaination i have it that you're somehow bottlenecked, but not by the GPU. My GPU runs at 98-100% utilization in this game. No matter if i'm playing at 1440p or 4K. This game normally is completely GPU bound with somewhat current hardware.

My CPU is around 45% utilization while playing. Maybe I'll reinstall the game and see if that changes anything. I'll look into it a bit more tomorrow as it is now 2am and I work tomorrow lol.

What you are describing of 40% more preformance when  you turn RTX off is kinda what made me question it because that's what I was was expecting.

I'll update when I do some more digging

Thanks for the help!

[Distorted]

Hey. Having the same issue with hardware very close to your own. I'm running an RTX 3070 with a Ryzen 7 3800x, Samsung NVME and only 16 gb of RAM (though I highly doubt that's the issue at hand).

I can, however, add that my friend who upgraded his GPU at the same time BUT has a Ryzen 9 3900x instead of the 7 is experiencing a much smoother ride with the game, getting 60 fps on average even where my rig grinds to a mindshattering 40 and very little stuttering overall. We're both running the same settings for the game (Raytracing on, though turning it off doesn't really do much for me personally in the FPS department anyway), have run a couple of benchmarks in 3dmark with similar results (bit lower on the CPU end for me ofc), and have been unable to figure out any difference outside of him having a slightly more powerful CPU.

I don't think my experience will really help us on the way to a solution, but I hope someone comes up with a bright idea. Kind of shocking to be CPU bottlenecked for a game like this, so I'm just gonna chalk it up to bad optimization for now. Let's hope for a patch that ACTUALLY fixes the Ryzen issues, since their last one only seems to have fixed the more recent ones :D.

[Incorrectusername]

6 hours ago, Distorted said:

Hey. Having the same issue with hardware very close to your own. I'm running an RTX 3070 with a Ryzen 7 3800x, Samsung NVME and only 16 gb of RAM (though I highly doubt that's the issue at hand).

I can, however, add that my friend who upgraded his GPU at the same time BUT has a Ryzen 9 3900x instead of the 7 is experiencing a much smoother ride with the game, getting 60 fps on average even where my rig grinds to a mindshattering 40 and very little stuttering overall. We're both running the same settings for the game (Raytracing on, though turning it off doesn't really do much for me personally in the FPS department anyway), have run a couple of benchmarks in 3dmark with similar results (bit lower on the CPU end for me ofc), and have been unable to figure out any difference outside of him having a slightly more powerful CPU.

I don't think my experience will really help us on the way to a solution, but I hope someone comes up with a bright idea. Kind of shocking to be CPU bottlenecked for a game like this, so I'm just gonna chalk it up to bad optimization for now. Let's hope for a patch that ACTUALLY fixes the Ryzen issues, since their last one only seems to have fixed the more recent ones :D.

Yeah that's the same for me and it just doesn't seem right. My CPU only gets to 40-60% usage on max settings doing graphic intensive things like running through a crowd or in a large fight scene.

I am reinstalling the game as we speak so we will see if it was just a bad install or something. I will update when I know more.

[Breeksta]

What motherboard are you using AND what RAM kit are you using exactly (model #)?

Did you enable the best XMP profile for your kit of RAM if it is listed on the QVL for your motherboard?

[Incorrectusername]

18 minutes ago, Breeksta said:

What motherboard are you using AND what RAM kit are you using exactly (model #)?

Did you enable the best XMP profile for your kit of RAM if it is listed on the QVL for your motherboard?

Motherboard is Asus X570 Tuf Gaming Pro Wifi, I have Corsair vengeance RGB Pro 3600MHz (CMW32GX4M2D3600C18) Xmp is enabled, as soon as I Installed the ram the motherboard automatically overclocked and enabled the xmp profile pulled from the ram.

[Incorrectusername]

So I just reinstalled the game and have everything set to medium and it seems to be the same except now it seems rtx on or off basically make no difference in frame rate unless im standing still, As soon as I start walking I get about 40-55fps with rtx on or off, both about the same.

 

I did however notice crowd turned down now does make a difference and will net me 15 or so more frames from high to med. Where as before id was maybe 5.

Still seems to be something wrong. I would think RTX on should deliver considerably less fps then off, im thinking at least 15-20fps more when off, I may be wrong though. But who knows lol.

[Ero]

55 minutes ago, ThisGuy89 said:

So I just reinstalled the game and have everything set to medium and it seems to be the same except now it seems rtx on or off basically make no difference in frame rate unless im standing still, As soon as I start walking I get about 40-55fps with rtx on or off, both about the same.

 

I did however notice crowd turned down now does make a difference and will net me 15 or so more frames from high to med. Where as before id was maybe 5.

Still seems to be something wrong. I would think RTX on should deliver considerably less fps then off, im thinking at least 15-20fps more when off, I may be wrong though. But who knows lol.

Have you updated cyberpunk to 1.0.6?

Also install msi after burner and see how many of your cpu cores are active in game and how much of your gpu it is using.

[Incorrectusername]

On 12/29/2020 at 2:22 AM, Ero said:

Have you updated cyberpunk to 1.0.6?

Also install msi after burner and see how many of your cpu cores are active in game and how much of your gpu it is using.

I have the latest version, I was reading about cyberpunk not using the threads of the CPU because its looking for an older bulldozer era processor and if it does not detect that it limits the threads. There is a fix but I have to roll back to an older version of cyberpunk to delete the one single line of code that does this. People with the same CPU as me say they see a 15-30fps boost. Worth a shot I suppose.

 

I also attached a picture that is while playing the game that shows no GPU utilization from windows software or ASUS software for the GPU. However hardware monitor shows it hit 100% so I really don't know how much my GPU is actually being used because it clearly doesn't report correctly. Maybe this is Nvidia driver problem and not cyberpunk.

Those spikes you see are me minimizing cyberpunk and not the gameplay itself. During testing I was running through large crowds to get the GPU working, The GPU Fans kicked on so I know it was working.