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MSI Tomahawk B550 or X570?

aduman

Hi, I'm considering getting one of these. The B550 costs atm with cashback 137€ whereas the X570 costs 179€ including cashback. The only difference that actually is important to me is the amount of usb ports on the rear. I already have a passive usb 3 hub for that though so that probably won't be an issue? Would it be better to have more built in rear USB ports as I'm using this PC for VR gaming as well? Or would a USB hub be enough to circumvent the issue?

I've read about PCI lane sharing or something to that effect. Would that ever be a problem for me if I'm not planning on running more than a single GPU and a single M2 drive? Would I be missing out on anything major by not going with the X570 board? Smart Access Memory would still be available with the B550 board if I ever decide to get a Zen 3 CPU right? I did some research myself but mobo features are really confusing...

 

Would you guys recommend the X570 for 40 extra Euros considering my use cases?

 

Any form of advice would be greatly appreciated.

 

EDIT: Wi-Fi & BT aren't important to me at all.

Also I'm only considering these two as there is both a cashback and free AC Valhalla deal going on atm which is really hard to beat.

The Gaming Edge X570 costs around 150€ with cashback so maybe that one's also worth considering.

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6 minutes ago, aduman said:

Would that ever be a problem for me if I'm not planning on running more than a single GPU and a single M2 drive? Would I be missing out on anything major by not going with the X570 board? Smart Access Memory would still be available with the B550 board if I ever decide to get a Zen 3 CPU right?

No.
Not afaik

Their new beta bios claims it supports SAM.

I would get the b550 personally.

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Don't think they are that much different, you might get more ports or cooling on your MB.
Some might perform better than others depending on your use case?

You might get more GEN 4 lanes with the 570 or some cooling on it?

but the 550 should be just fine, unless you want more ports and stuff like that which you might get with the 570?

Both should support for future use, SAM is not worth thinking about for now, and I think you would get it on both.

You would likely need more software stuff to happen and with OS updates.

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5 minutes ago, Quackers101 said:

Don't think they are that much different, you might get more ports or cooling on your MB.
Some might perform better than others depending on your use case?

You might get more GEN 4 lanes with the 570 or some cooling on it?

but the 550 should be just fine, unless you want more ports and stuff like that which you might get with the 570?

Both should support for future use, SAM is not worth thinking about for now, and I think you would get it on both.

You would likely need more software stuff to happen and with OS updates.

Thanks for the reply! Should I consider the Gaming Edge WiFi for 150€? That one seems to have 7 USB ports on the back as well.

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8 minutes ago, Cyracus said:

No.
Not afaik

Their new beta bios claims it supports SAM.

I would get the b550 personally.

Should I also consider the Gaming Edge WiFi for 150€? That one has 7 USB ports on the back as well which is convenient.

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Don't know, you could try to see if there is an review for it?
Wifi, if it's the most recent version can be nice, although there can be range issues or if the wifi is good on that one?

Wouldn't really know, but the recent version can have nice features, and if you just need wifi or bluetooth at times for less money than using a PCIe card or a cheap dongle.

 

Also if on sale than the non-wifi, the extra features might not hurt?

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2 minutes ago, Quackers101 said:

Don't know, you could try to see if there is an review for it?
Wifi, if it's the most recent version can be nice, although there can be range issues or if the wifi is good on that one?

Wouldn't really know, but the recent version can have nice features, and if you just need wifi or bluetooth at times for less money than using a PCIe card or a cheap dongle.

 

Also if on sale than the non-wifi, the extra features might not hurt?

Nvm was just reading about it and seems it has some VRM issues according to a HardwareUnboxed video.

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16 minutes ago, Cyracus said:

No.
Not afaik

Their new beta bios claims it supports SAM.

I would get the b550 personally.

Thanks for the help! Another simple question if you don't mind. Would you go for the Aorus Elite for 176€ or the X570 Tomahawk for 179€ including AC Valhalla? Or skip them altogether and go for the B550 Tomahawk? Considering my use cases. Would really appreciate your input on this one.

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21 minutes ago, aduman said:

Another simple question if you don't mind. Would you go for the Aorus Elite for 176€ or the X570 Tomahawk for 179€ including AC Valhalla? Or skip them altogether and go for the B550 Tomahawk?

If I'm looking at gigabyte it's the aorus pro (the one with the proper heatsink on the vrms, although the b550 variant has poorly implemented dual bios that can be a headache).

Of those 3 though, I would get the b550 tomahawk

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1 minute ago, Cyracus said:

If I'm looking at gigabyte it's the aorus pro (the one with the proper heatsink on the vrms, although the b550 variant has poorly implemented dual bios that can be a headache).

Of those 3 though, I would get the b550 tomahawk

Alright, thanks very much! I'll need a tad bit more consideration deciding between x570 and b550 tomahawk, but will probably go for the b550 variant.

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