Is the 6800XT worth the extra $70?

[Jack0f5pades]

Second try, here we go.

 

Posted about this earlier but it got no responses and I'm still looking for an answer. I play at 1440p 144hz, along with playing VR on a Valve Index at 120hz. I'm trying to figure out if paying the extra $70 for a 6800XT would net me any visible performance gains over the regular 6800. Right now, there's a really nice cooler design I like that only ships on the standard 6800, not the 6800XT, so I'm debating whether or not I actually NEED the extra performance for my use case. Any info is appreciated. Thanks!

[Random_Person1234]

What games do you play? Also, what would you define as visible performance gains?

[Bombastinator]

24 minutes ago, Jack0f5pades said:

Second try, here we go.

 

Posted about this earlier but it got no responses and I'm still looking for an answer. I play at 1440p 144hz, along with playing VR on a Valve Index at 120hz. I'm trying to figure out if paying the extra $70 for a 6800XT would net me any visible performance gains over the regular 6800. Right now, there's a really nice cooler design I like that only ships on the standard 6800, not the 6800XT, so I'm debating whether or not I actually NEED the extra performance for my use case. Any info is appreciated. Thanks!

For my part the conclusion I came to was that  a 3070 might not quite cut it and the 6800 seemed necessary.  $70 extra for a 6800xt is tempting, but it may be academic since neither can be gotten ahold of atm and by the time they’re back in stock pricing in my case and types of cooler adornment in your case could be completely different.

[Random_Person1234]

3 minutes ago, Bombastinator said:

For my part the conclusion I came to was that  a 3070 might not quite cut it and the 6800 seemed necessary.

Could you explain how you came to that conclusion? I came out with the opposite conclusion, that the 3070 was more worth it due to the 6800 not having that much of a gain in pure performance plus the 6800 having worse rt and less features. 

[FakeFBI]

the pricing will be like the 3000 series, demand skyrocket, 3070 is like $800 average, $500 msrp on nvidia,  

[Jack0f5pades]

6 minutes ago, Random_Person1234 said:

What games do you play? Also, what would you define as visible performance gains?

On flat screen, I play Destiny 2, some bethesda games with tons of mods, other singleplayer games like genshin impact and the tomb raider series. I also do video editing in DaVinci Resolve. In VR I play Half Life Alyx, H3VR, Beat Saber, and some other multiplayer games. I would say if both can hit at least 160fps, and there's less than a 40fps difference between the two, that wouldn't be a difference great enough to warrant the extra $70.

[FakeFBI]

this is so not related to this but, 

have you tried vtol vr? if no you should try it, even doe might be a little hard

[Jack0f5pades]

Just now, ComputerBuilder said:

this is so not related to this but, 

have you tried vtol vr? if no you should try it, even doe might be a little hard

My system specs don't meet the minimum requirements, unfortunately. But it does look interesting. Right now pretty much the only VR game I can play until I get a new card is VRChat. 

[FakeFBI]

ooooo, get a 6800 i feel, the xt is not big difference, not even in vram, all the 6k series 16gb of vram, even doe the 3070 is empressive fighter against 6800, until amd decides, v-tec drivers, CODE SOME DAM V-TEC DRIVERS

[Bombastinator]

4 minutes ago, Random_Person1234 said:

Could you explain how you came to that conclusion? I came out with the opposite conclusion, that the 3070 was more worth it due to the 6800 not having that much of a gain in pure performance plus the 6800 having worse rt and less features. 

It’s a question of what level you need to run at.  Dude didn’t say 1440p 120, he said 1440p 144. Thats more than 4k.  It makes sense to buy the cheapest thing that will run what you need.  Myself I want 4k@90 which is more or less 5-6k.  More than a 3070 can really do reliably.  For me 6800 is scraping the low end as well.  I don’t want to shell out for a 6800xt or a 3080 but I might have to.

[Random_Person1234]

9 minutes ago, Jack0f5pades said:

On flat screen, I play Destiny 2, some bethesda games with tons of mods, other singleplayer games like genshin impact and the tomb raider series. I also do video editing in DaVinci Resolve. In VR I play Half Life Alyx, H3VR, Beat Saber, and some other multiplayer games. I would say if both can hit at least 160fps, and there's less than a 40fps difference between the two, that wouldn't be a difference great enough to warrant the extra $70.

I forgot to ask this, but what's the rest of your system?

[Jack0f5pades]

2 minutes ago, Random_Person1234 said:

I forgot to ask this, but what's the rest of your system?

Full specs are on my profile I'm pretty sure, but the core components are a 3900x, B550 board, and an RX550. 

[Random_Person1234]

7 minutes ago, Jack0f5pades said:

Full specs are on my profile I'm pretty sure, but the core components are a 3900x, B550 board, and an RX550. 

https://www.gpucheck.com/compare/amd-radeon-rx-6800-xt-vs-amd-radeon-rx-6800/amd-ryzen-9-3900x-vs-amd-ryzen-9-3900x/ultra/ultra/-vs-?lang=en&currency=usd

Here's a comparison I found between the two cards using a 3900x (you gotta scroll down a little).

[Jack0f5pades]

2 minutes ago, Random_Person1234 said:

https://www.gpucheck.com/compare/amd-radeon-rx-6800-xt-vs-amd-radeon-rx-6800/amd-ryzen-9-3900x-vs-amd-ryzen-9-3900x/ultra/ultra/-vs-?lang=en&currency=usd

Here's a comparison I found between the two cards using a 3900x (you gotta scroll down a little).

Okay. I'd say that's a difference that's warranting the $70 increase. I guess I'll just have to cross my fingers that ASRock releases a Challenger Pro model of the 6800XT, and that it only needs 2 8pin power connectors since I only have the two cable extensions. Otherwise I'll have to try and find another custom model that looks as good aesthetically, but the only card I've seen so far that compares is the Strix, which is apparently going to cost as much as a reference 6900XT. Thanks

[xg32]

1 hour ago, Jack0f5pades said:

Okay. I'd say that's a difference that's warranting the $70 increase. I guess I'll just have to cross my fingers that ASRock releases a Challenger Pro model of the 6800XT, and that it only needs 2 8pin power connectors since I only have the two cable extensions. Otherwise I'll have to try and find another custom model that looks as good aesthetically, but the only card I've seen so far that compares is the Strix, which is apparently going to cost as much as a reference 6900XT. Thanks

so far the aib cards are overpriced, so it's either a reference model 6800xt/6900xt or a 700usd 3080.

 

Seriously wtf are they doing, they aren't good enough to bypass the nvidia tax yet lol. This might harm AIBs