Help! Need Help Building Future-Proofed Luxury Machine

[Gidipidy]

Budget (including currency): $3000 (USD)

Country: United States

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: I would like to build a new PC for streaming and gaming. I play games with lower spec requirements like Minecraft, but I also play an equal amount of bigger triple A titles, and my ideal PC would be able to run these games at max settings/performance without compromising streaming, and vice versa. 

Other details:  I would like to make use of the newest generation of graphics card (I do not know which is the most optimal for what), I would prefer using a high quality 4K monitor, and If possible within budget I would like it to run at 144Hz. I plan on buying parts throughout this year, and ideally I would like the build to be done by the start of next year or sooner. 

 

I have virtually no background/knowledge of computers, and being that I haven't had a great deal of time over the past few years, I figured I would try to ask a community that would be able to help me plan this out. Any and all advice/recommendations/build lists are very much so appreciated. If you need more details, or if you have any more questions, I'm sorry I didn't cover it in this initial post, but I will answer to the best of my ability. 

[Letgomyleghoe]

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 5800X 3.8 GHz 8-Core Processor  ($449.00) 
CPU Cooler: Scythe FUMA 2 51.17 CFM CPU Cooler  ($59.99 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: Asus ROG STRIX B550-F GAMING ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($184.84 @ Amazon) 
Memory: G.Skill Flare X Series 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL14 Memory  ($99.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Samsung 970 Evo 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($129.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: PNY GeForce RTX 3080 10 GB XLR8 Gaming REVEL EPIC-X RGB Video Card  ($759.94 @ Office Depot) 
Case: Fractal Design Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case  ($77.98 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: Corsair RMx (2018) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($144.99 @ Amazon) 
Monitor: Dell S2719DGF 27.0" 2560x1440 155 Hz Monitor  ($299.99 @ Amazon) 
Total: $2206.71
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-11-24 23:11 EST-0500

 

theres money for fans or any changes you want to make, 4k 144hz still isnt worth it (monitors cost 600+)

[GDRRiley]

you are going to need to swap out your GPU every gen. CPU+board+ram every 2-4 years. storage+case+PSU+cooling can be future proofed but that is about it.

1440p 144 is the sweet spot

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 9 5900X 3.7 GHz 12-Core Processor	$550.00
CPU Cooler	be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4 50.5 CFM CPU Cooler	$89.90 @ Amazon
Motherboard	ASRock B550 Steel Legend ATX AM4 Motherboard	$174.99 @ Newegg
Memory	G.Skill Trident Z 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL15 Memory	$169.99 @ Newegg
Storage	Samsung 970 EVO Plus 2 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive	$249.99 @ Amazon
Video Card	Sapphire Radeon RX 6800 XT 16 GB Video Card	$650.00
Case	Fractal Design Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case	$77.98 @ Newegg
Power Supply	Corsair RMx (2018) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply	$144.99 @ Amazon
Monitor	Asus TUF Gaming VG27AQ 27.0" 2560x1440 165 Hz Monitor	$419.99 @ Newegg
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	$2527.83
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-11-24 23:29 EST-0500

 

[Mateyyy]

Are you absolutely set on going with 4K? At least to me, it sounds like 1440p would make a lot more sense considering what you're after.

 

I'd look at something along the lines of:

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 5 5600X 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor	$300.00
CPU Cooler	Noctua NH-U12S chromax.black 55 CFM CPU Cooler	$70.00
Motherboard	Gigabyte B550 AORUS PRO AC ATX AM4 Motherboard	$159.99 @ Newegg
Memory	Crucial Ballistix 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory	$149.99 @ B&H
Storage	HP EX950 2 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive	$204.99 @ Newegg
Video Card	Asus GeForce RTX 3080 10 GB TUF GAMING Video Card	$726.99 @ Staples
Case	Fractal Design Meshify 2 ATX Mid Tower Case	$151.98 @ Newegg
Power Supply	Corsair RMx (2018) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply	$119.99 @ Newegg
Monitor	LG 27GL850-B 27.0" 2560x1440 144 Hz Monitor	$446.99 @ Amazon
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	$2330.92
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-11-24 23:44 EST-0500

If you also plan on doing some content creation on the side, while the 5600X is still no slouch, you could bump it up to a 5800X or 5900X, if you so desire.

Other than that, Nvidia's rumoured to be releasing a "3080Ti" probably later this year, so depending on when you actually plan on buying the parts that could be something to consider, though keep in mind that we haven't got any official confirmation yet on that. AMD's also an option with the 6800XT, though for streaming I'd take Nvidia over AMD because of the superior hardware encoder.

[GDRRiley]

49 minutes ago, Mateyyy said:

If you also plan on doing some content creation on the side, while the 5600X is still no slouch, you could bump it up to a 5800X or 5900X, if you so desire.

Other than that, Nvidia's rumoured to be releasing a "3080Ti" probably later this year, so depending on when you actually plan on buying the parts that could be something to consider, though keep in mind that we haven't got any official confirmation yet on that. AMD's also an option with the 6800XT, though for streaming I'd take Nvidia over AMD because of the superior hardware encoder.

I'd go 6800xt/6900xt over the 3080 for 1440p 144hz gaming. the extra VRAM is needed

LTT horrible test of the encoder at like 3.5k tells us nothing.

[Mateyyy]

30 minutes ago, GDRRiley said:

I'd go 6800xt/6900xt over the 3080 for 1440p 144hz gaming. the extra VRAM is needed

LTT horrible test of the encoder at like 3.5k tells us nothing.

Yeah I’m also waiting for some more detailed testing of VCN 3.0, though I think it’s safe to say that it won’t beat NVENC. Even if it matches it, Nvidia’s feature set for streamers is still superior on paper.

 

I think 10GB of VRAM is plenty for 1440p gaming, today. A few years from now, however - who knows.

That’s why I’d ideally wait for the rumoured 20GB 3080Ti. Either that, or a 6800XT, if waiting’s not an option (well, not like you can actually buy a 6800XT now, or even a 3080, but you get the point) and if Nvidia’s feature set isn’t that appealing to OP.

[GDRRiley]

6 minutes ago, Mateyyy said:

Yeah I’m also waiting for some more detailed testing of VCN 3.0, though I think it’s safe to say that it won’t beat NVENC. Even if it matches it, Nvidia’s feature set for streamers is still superior on paper.

 

I think 10GB of VRAM is plenty for 1440p gaming, today. A few years from now, however - who knows.

That’s why I’d ideally wait for the rumoured 20GB 3080Ti. Either that, or a 6800XT, if waiting’s not an option (well, not like you can actually buy a 6800XT now, or even a 3080, but you get the point) and if Nvidia’s feature set isn’t that appealing to OP.

10gb is not enough now even old game like R6 can eat up 6-8gb at1440p. their "features" are meh

 

Edited November 25, 2020 by GDRRiley

[Elisis]

2 minutes ago, GDRRiley said:

10gb is not enough now

For 1440p? 10GB is plenty lol, for practically every game out right now.

[Mateyyy]

2 minutes ago, GDRRiley said:

10gb is not enough now. their "features" are meh

How is it not enough? I had no problems at 1440p with 8GB of VRAM, and I’ve seen zero legitimate reviewers so far complaining about the lack of VRAM at 4K, let alone 1440p.

 

Their features could be meh to you but not to OP - it’s up to the end user, ultimately.

[GDRRiley]

Just now, Mateyyy said:

How is it not enough? I had no problems at 1440p with 8GB of VRAM, and I’ve seen zero legitimate reviewers so far complaining about the lack of VRAM at 4K, let alone 1440p.

hardware unbox and we haven't seen many next gen games

[Elisis]

Just now, GDRRiley said:

we haven't seen many next gen games

And this allows you to say that 10GB is not enough... how, exactly?

[Mateyyy]

Just now, GDRRiley said:

hardware unbox and we haven't seen many next gen games

Well if we haven’t seen many next-gen games, then what makes you so sure that 10GB won’t be enough and 16GB will?

 

I also can’t recall HUB saying that they ran into any VRAM limitations, but I might rewatch their review later to check.

[GDRRiley]

3 minutes ago, Elisis said:

And this allows you to say that 10GB is not enough... how, exactly?

games already need 6-8 at 1440p. 10gb is only 25% more

Just now, Mateyyy said:

Well if we haven’t seen many next-gen games, then what makes you so sure that 10GB won’t be enough and 16GB will?

 

I also can’t recall HUB saying that they ran into any VRAM limitations, but I might rewatch their review later to check.

16gb is what the new consoles have kinda hard to hit that limit at launch

 

[Elisis]

Just now, GDRRiley said:

10gb is only 25% more

And how exactly are new games going to use 25% more VRAM? Texture files are clearly basically as high as they can be already... We've hit a plateau.

[Mateyyy]

6 minutes ago, GDRRiley said:

16gb is what the new consoles have kinda hard to hit that limit at launch

Regardless, you said 10GB aren’t enough now.

Trying to predict/guess what requirements will be years from now and how often someone upgrades their hardware is rather stupid, so I think continuing this discussion is pointless.

[GDRRiley]

30 minutes ago, Mateyyy said:

Regardless, you said 10GB aren’t enough now.

Trying to predict/guess what requirements will be years from now and how often someone upgrades their hardware is rather stupid, so I think continuing this discussion is pointless.

I'm not trying to predict years I don't do that. I'm talking months 8-10gbs will be used up with high quality textures+other stuff at 1440p or 4k

 

38 minutes ago, Elisis said:

And how exactly are new games going to use 25% more VRAM? Texture files are clearly basically as high as they can be already... We've hit a plateau.

more and more is being put into VRAM not just textures