New bluetooth hack to easily steal a Tesla model X in minutes

[MadAnt250]

On 11/24/2020 at 7:41 AM, The_Hawkeye said:

A new way has been found to copy a key-fob of the Tesla Model X, take full control and drive away with it within minutes

Lol, I saw this coming. This is one of the thousands of reasons why I will not buy a new or newer car.

 

 

[wanderingfool2]

2 hours ago, MadAnt250 said:

Lol, I saw this coming. This is one of the thousands of reasons why I will not by a new or newer car.

 

 

Some of the older vehicles had their key's have not great tolerances and mixing...which leads to being able to use your key in other vehicles (not kidding had an Uncle who opened, started and drove away with a car with the wrong set of keys...the only thing being that the key itself stopped working, which is when he realized the switch).

 

It's just the amount of precautions people take really

[MadAnt250]

10 hours ago, wanderingfool2 said:

Some of the older vehicles had their key's have not great tolerances and mixing...which leads to being able to use your key in other vehicles (not kidding had an Uncle who opened, started and drove away with a car with the wrong set of keys...the only thing being that the key itself stopped working, which is when he realized the switch).

 

It's just the amount of precautions people take really

I am guessing your talking about the cars that do not need a physical key to be in the ignition lock cylinder. Also I have seen old ignition lock cylinders so worn out, the car can be started without a key sometimes. 

[Kisai]

On 11/25/2020 at 3:36 PM, wanderingfool2 said:

...well that is a bit scary.

 

Literal thought, making a left turn and losing power.  It's a good way to get t-boned.

 

I would rather thieves be able to steal a car by doing a relay attack or hacking the bluetooth than have the potential of the vehicle turning off mid-drive....as that just seems like a disaster waiting to happen.

Under the ideal circumstances, you wouldn't be able to steal a car because the manufacturers would keep the mechanical linkage between the steering and the brakes regardless if the vehicle is powered or electronically authorized. 

 

So if someone steals a car and the anti-theft features kick in, the vehicle would gear down to the lowest gear. Because electric vehicles do not have a transmission for doing this, that means the only option is to disengage the electrical linkage to the traction motors, which would still require physical brakes to stop the car. It becomes a lot easier to identify a stolen car if it can't get above 20kph and makes a lot of noise in the process. Ideally the car thief realizes their mistake and abandons the car before they can get more than a mile away.

 

However, this leads to that legal problem about booby-traps. If you do something that will injure or kill a thief, you are criminally responsible for that thief's death. So car manufacturers don't want that, and thus cars are "stealable" because you don't want countermeasures that will hurt the thief, or the owner if it malfunctions. Like the only sure fire way to keep a car from getting stolen or repo'd is to keep it in a garage with a counterweight'd metal door (eg the door can't open if the counterweight on the inside isn't attached. No such animal exists as far as I know.