2x16gb JEDEC 3200MHz CL22 RAM

[edvinasfresh]

Hello, i'm planning to replace my 2x8gb kit for TEAM GROUP T-Create Classic DDR4  32GB 2x16GB 3200MHz CL22 1.2V

 

Link to website that shows specs of this ram - https://www.teamgroupinc.com/en/catalog/act.php?act=2&index_id=194

 

All i am wondering is if i would be able to overclock this ram, since it's CL22, but given that is a 1.2v i could just increase voltage and tighten the timings. Would that be... possible?

As far as i understand this ram has no XMP, only new JEDEC 3200mhz cl22 standard. Any ideas? Thank you.

 

 

[Mateyyy]

3 minutes ago, edvinasfresh said:

All i am wondering is if i would be able to overclock this ram, since it's CL22, but given that is a 1.2v i could just increase voltage and tighten the timings. Would that be... possible?

Well... nothing's stopping you from trying, but the ICs on those sticks probably won't be particularly great, if I had to guess.

(and of course there's other factors too that will determine your overclocking potential, like your CPU and motherboard)

[Letgomyleghoe]

no dont buy it youd need to get the timings down to around 15 for it to be good

[boggy77]

why are you going for this one? seems to be some sort of low power ram. might not work with 1.35v

[Crossbred]

Whether you could or should depends on the rest of your system. I don't recommend those sticks because of the massive latency. A still fairly-cheap option is corsair lpx or g.skill ripjaws v. You probably won't get much out of overclocking it in the first place.

[edvinasfresh]

7 minutes ago, Mateyyy said:

Well... nothing's stopping you from trying, but the ICs on those sticks probably won't be particularly great, if I had to guess.

(and of course there's other factors too that will determine your overclocking potential, like your CPU and motherboard)

Motherboard - b450 mortar (non max), cpu - ryzen 5 2600 (non x) currently my kit is running 3200mhz cl14 (2x8gb Hynix AFR)

6 minutes ago, Letgomyleghoe said:

no dont buy it youd need to get the timings down to around 15 for it to be good

as far as i know speed > timings.. i'm not paying 200 euros more for 5% more performance.

6 minutes ago, boggy77 said:

why are you going for this one? seems to be some sort of low power ram. might not work with 1.35v

these ram are kinda new as far as i understand because of new hedec standard (3200mhz cl22), i kinda doubt if this kit couldn't do 1.35v for some reason.. 

 

4 minutes ago, Crossbred said:

Whether you could or should depends on the rest of your system. I don't recommend those sticks because of the massive latency. A still fairly-cheap option is corsair lpx or g.skill ripjaws v. You probably won't get much out of overclocking it in the first place.

I understand that latency is huge. My main point is that these ram run at CL22 while being only 1.2v. I'd like to have an idea if it would be possible to tighten those timings by increasing voltage (depending on ram die of course)

[porina]

16 minutes ago, edvinasfresh said:

All i am wondering is if i would be able to overclock this ram, since it's CL22, but given that is a 1.2v i could just increase voltage and tighten the timings. Would that be... possible?

As far as i understand this ram has no XMP, only new JEDEC 3200mhz cl22 standard. Any ideas? Thank you.

While this is not the normal type of ram you'd see on enthusiast forums, this is the industry standard stuff. It is meant to work with anything.

 

With ram overclocking, how far you get will depend a lot on the chips used in the modules. Normally voltage needs to be increased to tighten latencies. Can't really say more than that without knowing what chips are used.

 

11 minutes ago, Letgomyleghoe said:

no dont buy it youd need to get the timings down to around 15 for it to be good

At 3200 C16 is about the value point. Past that, you're likely running into B-die and higher pricing.

 

11 minutes ago, boggy77 said:

why are you going for this one? seems to be some sort of low power ram. might not work with 1.35v

This is not low power, it is standard voltage. It's the enthusiast modules running at 1.35V or even higher that is elevated. The ram will work at 1.35V or more, although if you can get it to run any faster or tighter is hard to say.

[Letgomyleghoe]

18 minutes ago, porina said:

At 3200 C16 is about the value point. Past that, you're likely running into B-die and higher pricing.

i got my 16gb 3200 c15 for like $90 its not to bad... 

[Letgomyleghoe]

30 minutes ago, edvinasfresh said:

as far as i know speed > timings.. i'm not paying 200 euros more for 5% more performance.

no they are both equal... you need a balance between the two

https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232530?Description=corsair lpx 3200 c14&cm_re=corsair_lpx 3200 c14-_-20-232-530-_-Product&quicklink=true

 

this kit is a good balance and not to expensive

 

https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232217

 

or this kit

[edvinasfresh]

1 minute ago, Letgomyleghoe said:

no they are both equal... you need a balance between the two

https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232530?Description=corsair lpx 3200 c14&cm_re=corsair_lpx 3200 c14-_-20-232-530-_-Product&quicklink=true

 

this kit is a good balance and not to expensive

i'm looking at 2x16gb ram for a reason.. this kit is 115 euros.

[Letgomyleghoe]

5 minutes ago, edvinasfresh said:

his kit is 115 euros.

oof, only 99 dollars in the us, expect to spend 200 euro on a 2x16 kit... unless you want garbo bargain basement ram

[edvinasfresh]

Just now, Letgomyleghoe said:

oof, only 99 dollars in the us

im talking about my kit that it's 115 euros. it's 2x16gb, not 2x8gb like yours.

[Letgomyleghoe]

1 minute ago, edvinasfresh said:

im talking about my kit that it's 115 euros. it's 2x16gb, not 2x8gb like yours.

thats because its garbo bargain basement ram, i doubt you will use all 32gb, its better to go with faster ram

[edvinasfresh]

4 minutes ago, Letgomyleghoe said:

thats because its garbo bargain basement ram, i doubt you will use all 32gb, its better to go with faster ram

??? if you can't use more than 16gb of ram, doesn't mean that others can't. i need 32gb of ram, not your overpriced 2x8gb kit. as i said in other posts im already running a 2x8gb 3200mhz cl14 kit, where would it be an upgrade??

[Letgomyleghoe]

2 minutes ago, edvinasfresh said:

??? if you can't use more than 16gb of ram, doesn't mean that others can't. i need 32gb of ram, not your overpriced 2x8gb kit. as i said in other posts im already running a 2x8gb 3200mhz cl14 kit, where would it be an upgrade??

in that case it wont be an upgrade, but if you already have 2x8gb why dont you just get another set of it?

 

i never said you wont, i said "I doubt"

[edvinasfresh]

8 minutes ago, Letgomyleghoe said:

in that case it wont be an upgrade, but if you already have 2x8gb why dont you just get another set of it?

 

i never said you wont, i said "I doubt"

what's the point of shitposting then.. i need 2x16gb ram, not 4x8gb. if you have any clue how ram works, you would've figured it out already why i dont want to buy the same kit i already have

[edvinasfresh]

53 minutes ago, porina said:

With ram overclocking, how far you get will depend a lot on the chips used in the modules. Normally voltage needs to be increased to tighten latencies. Can't really say more than that without knowing what chips are used.

Yeah, i realise that too, sadly there's probably no way of knowing i guess. I wonder if it's really bad tier die on this ram.. I understand that 3200mhz CL22 is not hard to run, but it should be possible to go at least 1.35v, right? and if the chip is not bad, maybe even more voltage to get 3200mhz cl16-18

[boggy77]

2 hours ago, edvinasfresh said:

Yeah, i realise that too, sadly there's probably no way of knowing i guess. I wonder if it's really bad tier die on this ram.. I understand that 3200mhz CL22 is not hard to run, but it should be possible to go at least 1.35v, right? and if the chip is not bad, maybe even more voltage to get 3200mhz cl16-18

look, if that ram could do 3600c16 at 1.35v, they would advertise it and sell it as such, and stick an xmp profile on it.

because they don't, it means it struggles, because as you said, it's probably low tier ram

[edvinasfresh]

8 hours ago, boggy77 said:

look, if that ram could do 3600c16 at 1.35v, they would advertise it and sell it as such, and stick an xmp profile on it.

because they don't, it means it struggles, because as you said, it's probably low tier ram

i don't need it to run 3600 cl16 at 1.35v, tho i found "review" that managed to run this, but 2x32gb kit to 3600mhz cl18 on 1.35v.

i need at least 3200mhz cl16 and i'll be fine with this ram, since it's cheapest of 2x16gb ram here. it is 30 euros less than for a 2x16gb 3600mhz cl18 ram.

[Guest]

4 minutes ago, edvinasfresh said:

i don't need it to run 3600 cl16 at 1.35v, tho i found "review" that managed to run this, but 2x32gb kit to 3600mhz cl18 on 1.35v.

i need at least 3200mhz cl16 and i'll be fine with this ram, since it's cheapest of 2x16gb ram here. it is 30 euros less than for a 2x16gb 3600mhz cl18 ram.

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Motherboard - b450 mortar (non max), cpu - ryzen 5 2600 (non x) currently my kit is running 3200mhz cl14 (2x8gb Hynix AFR)

 

You will NOT be able to come close to replicating what you are running now with 2x16gb sticks. 

I'm even going to say you're probably Very lucky at 3200mhz C14 on Hynix ICs with Zen+.

Might even go out on a limb and actually question the stability.....

 

[edvinasfresh]

5 minutes ago, ShrimpBrime said:

You will NOT be able to come close to replicating what you are running now with 2x16gb sticks. 

I'm even going to say you're probably Very lucky at 3200mhz C14 on Hynix ICs with Zen+.

Might even go out on a limb and actually question the stability.....

 

i realise that my current ram is running on great speed, but i need more than 16gb for my vega 64 hbcc and im always recording videos to my ram instead of ssd threw radeon instant replay.

 

i'm also going to upgrade my cpu, when 5600 (non x) or 5700x comes out.

[Guest]

6 minutes ago, edvinasfresh said:

i realise that my current ram is running on great speed, but i need more than 16gb for my vega 64 hbcc and im always recording videos to my ram instead of ssd threw radeon instant replay.

 

i'm also going to upgrade my cpu, when 5600 (non x) or 5700x comes out.

Gotcha. I suppose it's redundant to even purchase memory at this time then. I would keep an eye out for other systems built with similar hardware to get an idea of what other people are buying having good or bad experiences. I don't see often on Zen 2 (Zen 3 same memory controller, but improved IF frequency) running much faster than 3200mhz with 32GB of memory unless it was high tier.