I'm a beginner building a PC. I need help and advice

[I am Redacted]

Budget (including currency): € 1500 - € 2000 

Country: Ireland

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: AAA games. R6, GTA V, Fallout 4, Cities: Skylines, Borderlands 3, Assassin's Creed: Valhalla, Battlefield V  Graphics Design(Potentially)

Other details: I don't need peripherals at all. I want to build a mid-high range pc that can support up to 2 monitors at 1080p. I've compiled a wishlist of what I want but I'm willing to adapt. I want to have this system to keep me for a few years as I get through college.

Currently I don't have the funds to buy everything at once but I want to start chipping away at parts, hopefully saving the RTX 3070 for last. I have no idea what kind of cooling I need or what case would be optimal for me to allows for future upgrading.

 

Please note that I am able to purchase parts from some uk vendors.

 

I would appreciate any and all help and even some criticism.

[Teddy07]

water cooling  is a waste of money for a ryzen 3600. Just go with air cooling and buy a tier higher with the saved money if needed.

The mainboard seems also a waste of money. Buy it only if you need the additional features.

750 psu is fine but 650w would do the job equally well

[Orange1]

AIO's are a waste of money, you can get better cooling from a good air cooler.

CPU - 3600

MOBO - Tomahawk MAX

[DailyProcrastinator]

Wait for new AMD CPU's and GPU's, they seem like they should be like a great gaming CPU, the R5 for gaming would be perfect. 

 

Otherwise here are other changes I recommend:

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor	£275.08 @ Amazon UK
CPU Cooler	ARCTIC Freezer 34 eSports DUO CPU Cooler	£37.73 @ Overclockers.co.uk
Motherboard	Asus TUF GAMING B550-PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard	£137.40 @ Alza
Memory	Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory	£71.98 @ Amazon UK
Storage	Western Digital Blue 1 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive	£88.11 @ CCL Computers
Storage	Kingston A2000 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive	£99.87 @ Amazon UK
Video Card	Asus GeForce RTX 3070 8 GB STRIX GAMING Video Card	£643.67 @ Overclockers.co.uk
Case	Phanteks Eclipse P360A ATX Mid Tower Case	£65.14 @ CCL Computers
Power Supply	Corsair TXM Gold 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply	£90.22 @ CCL Computers
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	£1509.20
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-10-29 00:41 GMT+0000

R7 3700x is a stand in for R5 5600 pricing. Just left the 3070 in for now, but as I said I recommend waiting for AMD offerings.

 

This would be a very powerful PC for your use case and allows room for a good monitor. I recommend no less than 1440p 144Hz, with GSync or FreeSync, if you plan on using the 3070 or equivalent. 

 

[Vibes NoVibes]

38 minutes ago, I am Redacted said:

Budget (including currency): € 1500 - € 2000 

Country: Ireland

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: AAA games. R6, GTA V, Fallout 4, Cities: Skylines, Borderlands 3, Assassin's Creed: Valhalla, Battlefield V  Graphics Design(Potentially)

Other details: I don't need peripherals at all. I want to build a mid-high range pc that can support up to 2 monitors at 1080p. I've compiled a wishlist of what I want but I'm willing to adapt. I want to have this system to keep me for a few years as I get through college.

Currently I don't have the funds to buy everything at once but I want to start chipping away at parts, hopefully saving the RTX 3070 for last. I have no idea what kind of cooling I need or what case would be optimal for me to allows for future upgrading.

 

Please note that I am able to purchase parts from some uk vendors.

 

I would appreciate any and all help and even some criticism.

Please buy all the parts when you actually plan on creating that build. Buying some components ahead of others will lead to not testing them instantly and may lead of RMA/warranty issues.

[I am Redacted]

I'm listening to all the replies and I seriously appreciate the advice and the help. You guys are seriously the best. I'm hearing AIO is a waste of money on R5 so that's a start. Motherboard also seems to be a waste of money too. I'll tinker the list and make some compromises.

[I am Redacted]

17 minutes ago, I am Redacted said:

I'm listening to all the replies and I seriously appreciate the advice and the help. You guys are seriously the best. I'm hearing AIO is a waste of money on R5 so that's a start. Motherboard also seems to be a waste of money too. I'll tinker the list and make some compromises.

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/YYp3t8

[I am Redacted]

8 hours ago, Teddy07 said:

water cooling  is a waste of money for a ryzen 3600. Just go with air cooling and buy a tier higher with the saved money if needed.

The mainboard seems also a waste of money. Buy it only if you need the additional features.

750 psu is fine but 650w would do the job equally well

I hear you. I've posted another build, let me know your thoughts

[I am Redacted]

8 hours ago, Orange1 said:

AIO's are a waste of money, you can get better cooling from a good air cooler.

CPU - 3600

MOBO - Tomahawk MAX

AIO - Waste of money, got it. I posted an updated list with a different mobo 

[I am Redacted]

8 hours ago, TheDailyProcrastinator said:

Wait for new AMD CPU's and GPU's, they seem like they should be like a great gaming CPU, the R5 for gaming would be perfect. 

 

Otherwise here are other changes I recommend:

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor	£275.08 @ Amazon UK
CPU Cooler	ARCTIC Freezer 34 eSports DUO CPU Cooler	£37.73 @ Overclockers.co.uk
Motherboard	Asus TUF GAMING B550-PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard	£137.40 @ Alza
Memory	Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory	£71.98 @ Amazon UK
Storage	Western Digital Blue 1 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive	£88.11 @ CCL Computers
Storage	Kingston A2000 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive	£99.87 @ Amazon UK
Video Card	Asus GeForce RTX 3070 8 GB STRIX GAMING Video Card	£643.67 @ Overclockers.co.uk
Case	Phanteks Eclipse P360A ATX Mid Tower Case	£65.14 @ CCL Computers
Power Supply	Corsair TXM Gold 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply	£90.22 @ CCL Computers
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	£1509.20
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-10-29 00:41 GMT+0000

R7 3700x is a stand in for R5 5600 pricing. Just left the 3070 in for now, but as I said I recommend waiting for AMD offerings.

 

This would be a very powerful PC for your use case and allows room for a good monitor. I recommend no less than 1440p 144Hz, with GSync or FreeSync, if you plan on using the 3070 or equivalent. 

 

I appreciate the help. Seriously. I made a new build following some recommendations from you and others. 

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 5 3600X 3.8 GHz 6-Core Processor	£209.58 @ Aria PC
CPU Cooler	ARCTIC Freezer 34 eSports DUO CPU Cooler	£37.73 @ Overclockers.co.uk
Motherboard	Asus TUF GAMING B550-PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard	£137.40 @ Alza
Memory	Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory	£71.98 @ Amazon UK
Storage	Western Digital Blue 1 TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive	£87.42 @ CCL Computers
Storage	Kingston A2000 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive	£101.59 @ Amazon UK
Video Card	MSI GeForce RTX 3070 8 GB VENTUS 3X OC Video Card	£549.99 @ Ebuyer
Case	Phanteks Eclipse P360X ATX Mid Tower Case	£64.99 @ AWD-IT
Power Supply	Corsair TXM Gold 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply	£90.22 @ CCL Computers
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	£1350.90
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-10-29 09:20 GMT+0000

 

 

[Teddy07]

I like it

Might consider a RX6800 as replacement for the rtx 3070 when Nvidia still struggles with availability issues. You gotta buy asap in any case because they will sell like hot cakes

[Zabityhrac]

20 minutes ago, I am Redacted said:

AIO - Waste of money, got it. I posted an updated list with a different mobo 

I just wanna ask whats ur budget in euros and in pounds?

 

[DailyProcrastinator]

6 hours ago, I am Redacted said:

I appreciate the help. Seriously. I made a new build following some recommendations from you and others.

No problem! If you are buying now get the 3600, the extra $$$ for the 3600x is pointless. But if you wait (you should) the new R5 5600x will cost more, so closer to the price of the now 3700x.

 

 

[I am Redacted]

6 hours ago, Zabityhrac said:

I just wanna ask whats ur budget in euros and in pounds?

 

Budget is 1500ish euros

[I am Redacted]

7 hours ago, Teddy07 said:

I like it

Might consider a RX6800 as replacement for the rtx 3070 when Nvidia still struggles with availability issues. You gotta buy asap in any case because they will sell like hot cakes

Yeah  I saw the AMD reveal yesterday. I want to spread out my purchases a little bit while leaving the gfx card for last. Leaves me room to decide what to buy when the times comes

[I am Redacted]

20 minutes ago, TheDailyProcrastinator said:

No problem! If you are buying now get the 3600, the extra $$$ for the 3600x is pointless. But if you wait (you should) the new R5 5600x will cost more, so closer to the price of the now 3700x.

 

 

Got it. I already planned to wait till Black Friday/ Cyber Monday sales and see if I can get some parts for cheaper. It may be that the R5 3000 series drops in price. Just a thought

[I am Redacted]

Thank you so much to those who helped and are still willing to work out some kinks(if any). The more advice the better, let's get it perfect!

 

I wanted to note aswell to those helping me out that I wish to wait until Black Friday/Cyber Monday sales and try get some price drops.

After AMD's reveal it's starting to look like team red will take the lead when it comes to graphical performance so that may be the replacement for the Nvidia GFX card.

5000 series cpus are dropping sooner that I realised so buying a Zen 3 cpu may also replace the wish for a Zen 2 cpu.

[sub68]

7 hours ago, I am Redacted said:

Kingston A2000 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive £101.59 @ Amazon UK

I would go a samsung drive than kingston