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Shadow_Storm56
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I have a giant network on my farm, tons of repeaters, security cameras, tabletd, pos systems and although Android devices are fine and the security cameras are fine any apple devices hates it. Can take an hour of it trying different sections of the network to get any apple device to connect. Android stuff I  can jump from wifi source to wifi source no problem. Usually setting a static ip works for keeping an apple device connected but not always and my square terminals you can find the mac address to make them have an internal static ip. I do my best but I'm not a pro at network administration's and it gets annoying when things keep disconnecting. Help plz

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Usually apple stuff is pretty good at wifi. Could be that you have older stuff that is not perfectly compatible with your newer network access points or vice versa. Hard to diagnose from a far. I would recommend getting an outdoor AC access point with a giant antenna on it, that way you can remove most of the smaller ones and thus have less interference. However they are not cheap, so maybe find some older ones on the used market. You would then connect that one via Ethernet to your main in house network. 

A good outdoor access point should be able to cover 1 or 2 square miles if unobstructed, a very good one even more.

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Just the closed source nature of iOS making software more difficult to optimize and fix. Not helped by the fact that Android has significantly larger share of the market.

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Yeah, you're going to need a consultant to come out and optimize that whole thing.  Asking here... ain't going to get you anywhere.

 

Something that large, even hiring a 3rd party remote company to set you up would make sense.

 

 

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3 hours ago, Applefreak said:

Usually apple stuff is pretty good at wifi. Could be that you have older stuff that is not perfectly compatible with your newer network access points or vice versa. Hard to diagnose from a far. I would recommend getting an outdoor AC access point with a giant antenna on it, that way you can remove most of the smaller ones and thus have less interference. However they are not cheap, so maybe find some older ones on the used market. You would then connect that one via Ethernet to your main in house network. 

A good outdoor access point should be able to cover 1 or 2 square miles if unobstructed, a very good one even more.

It's all new stufff but Apple hates my network and android is fine. Also theres alot of things to cause obstruction is the thing...

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On 10/2/2020 at 12:56 PM, Dedayog said:

Yeah, you're going to need a consultant to come out and optimize that whole thing.  Asking here... ain't going to get you anywhere.

 

Something that large, even hiring a 3rd party remote company to set you up would make sense.

 

 

Once a device is connected theres no issue, like theres security cameras attached to all different points of the network and they never go down. Android devices only have problems on rare occasions, Apple devices it's like pulling teeth to get them connected. It all comes down to the same message. "Failed to obtain ip address"

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30 minutes ago, heimdali said:

Without knowing in all detail everything about your network, there is no way to tell what could be wrong.

 

It goes from repeater to repeater, somtimes it can go through 3 repeaters and be fine but another one can go through one and be bad. 

 

At this very moment everything is connected and fine... could last a day or a month

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13 minutes ago, Shadow_Storm56 said:

It goes from repeater to repeater, somtimes it can go through 3 repeaters and be fine but another one can go through one and be bad. 

 

At this very moment everything is connected and fine... could last a day or a month

If you're using WiFi repeaters, then there's your problem. Repeaters might improve range but sacrifice speed. Each works at half duplex speed so you can imagine how crippled a network can be if they're daisy chained out like that.

 

I agree with getting a proper on-site assessment of your network.

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On 10/3/2020 at 10:00 PM, heimdali said:

Well, using repeaters is a bad idea to begin with.  Maybe some devices are using shorter timeouts, but without info, we can only guess.

 

How else can I get my network to crazy distances? Besides point to point and repeaters.

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18 hours ago, Shadow_Storm56 said:

How else can I get my network to crazy distances? Besides point to point and repeaters.

Ethernet and Fiber are the top two choices. Coax will work as well, but Moca adapters can be a bit expensive. 

I just want to sit back and watch the world burn. 

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