Do you think AMD will be able to match or surpass the 10900k in gaming?

[Gillbatez_sicromoft]

Of course we're going to have to wait until the 8th to know for sure. AMD has gone leaps and bounds from where it was just 5 years ago, Ryzen processors are great but the one area where it still lags behind intel is gaming. The 10900k at 5.3 ghz with 10 cores is still the fastest gaming cpu.

 

I've heard the reason for zen 2 not being able to be on par with intel in gaming is something along the lines of the cache being separate on the cpu die but I may be wrong. I think if AMD can fix this problem, they may be able to match the 10900k with the ryzen 9 4900x. If they are able to achieve this, I will be really impressed. I currently have a 3900xt and its a great chip, I probably won't upgrade unless it can match intel in gaming performance which doesn't seem impossible.

[Mateyyy]

5 minutes ago, Gillbatez_sicromoft said:

Of course we're going to have to wait until the 8th to know for sure.

Later than that. October 8th is just the reveal, with maybe some cherry picked benchmarks.

 

My optimistic guess is that they match a stock 10900K/10850K outside of edge cases that still favour Intel.

If you can get an i9 to 5.1-5.2GHz on all cores I think it'll still be ahead, but the margin will be too small to justify not going with Zen 3. We'll have to wait and see though.

[gloop]

I doubt they would reach it with Zen3. Zen4 or 5, with X870 or whatever they will probably, especially if they can do it before intel their processes down. 

[Haro]

10 hours ago, Gillbatez_sicromoft said:

of the cache being separate on the cpu die but I may be wrong

they don't boost as high and there's a CCD and two CCX's and an interconnect meaning there is more latency. 

there is more cache on AMD cpu's, but that's to help with latency.

 

10 hours ago, Gillbatez_sicromoft said:

Do you think AMD will be able to match or surpass the 10900k in gaming?

We don't know, but zen 3 seems promising looking at the leaks and rumors (but again they are rumors) and it technically could, but again we don't know.

 

 

[maizenblue]

Im going to guess no. The 3900xt didnt really close the gap much and for whatever reason AMD cant seem to solve the latency issue. Im guessing theyd have to go back ti the drawing board to do it and its not really worth it since its not a huge difference anyway. 
 

Ive learned to temper my expectations with amd. They do make steady incremental gains every time but always fall a bit short gpu and cpu wise. 

[Mister Woof]

Amd gives better value, that's their best feature.

 

Will there beat intel at this with 4th gen? My thoughts are absolutely.

[Chris Pratt]

"Gaming" is a gross generalization here. Intel beats AMD in single-core perf. That's it. As such, Intel does better than AMD in games only in as much as those games rely on single-core perf. In games that utilize multiple cores heavily, AMD does as well as Intel, and sometimes even edges Intel out.

 

Even then, AMD isn't vastly behind. Even in games that favor Intel, AMD might be like 10-20fps behind at max. If Zen 3 brings the rumored clock speed and IPC improvements, they'll easily close that gap as well.