From Intel to AMD worth it?

[KSKGAMETV]

ive been either thinking of getting a ryzen 5 3600x or a ryzen 7 2700x for the extra cores over my i5 7600K.

im stuck on if i should go with R5 6c/8t 3rd gen technology or a generation before but R7 8c/16t 2nd gen technology?

 

im will be video editing and recording videos and gaming 

[VeganJoy]

the 2700x should be cheaper and better for multithreaded workloads while keeping decent framerates in games. if theyre the same price or you can get a 3600 non x for cheaper then i'd go with the 3600 for the stronger memory controller. check some benchmarks and see what specs matter to you, theyll both be good for your use case

[Helpful Tech Witch]

whats your budget on a new CPU/MOBO?

[Moonzy]

tho do take note Zen 3 announcement is on oct 8th, so the product launch date isnt too far away

[Sorenson]

I would wait for now. The next generation Ryzen stuff is going to be announced fairly soon. These upcoming chips are likely going to be even more competitive against intel's top of the line stuff than the current 3000 series. 

 

I sell my computers fairly regularly and have used an 8700k, 9700k, and now a 3800x. The gaming difference between any of them has not been noticeable at all playing at 1440p and 1440p ultra wide. 

[KSKGAMETV]

2 minutes ago, VeganJoy said:

the 2700x should be cheaper and better for multithreaded workloads while keeping decent framerates in games. if theyre the same price or you can get a 3600 non x for cheaper then i'd go with the 3600 for the stronger memory controller. check some benchmarks and see what specs matter to you, theyll both be good for your use case

okay taken onboard, would 3600xt make more of a difference?

[VeganJoy]

Just now, KSKGAMETV said:

okay taken onboard, would 3600xt make more of a difference?

not really, it might oc marginally better but not worth extra imo

[Chris Pratt]

Just now, KSKGAMETV said:

okay taken onboard, would 3600xt make more of a difference?

XT isn't worth it, unless the price is virtually the same (which it probably won't be). They're just better binned, and clock a little higher as a result, but it's only like 200Mhz max. You might be able to get a stable 200Mhz OC on even a 3600. Even if not, you're unlikely to notice much of a difference, and certainly not one worth the usual $100 spread.

[KSKGAMETV]

5 minutes ago, HelpfulTechWizard said:

whats your budget on a new CPU/MOBO?

cpu £250 mobo £200

[KSKGAMETV]

1 minute ago, VeganJoy said:

not really, it might oc marginally better but not worth extra imo

okay

[KSKGAMETV]

4 minutes ago, Moonzy said:

tho do take note Zen 3 announcement is on oct 8th, so the product launch date isnt too far away

yes not to far away might be worth the wait 

[KSKGAMETV]

1 minute ago, Chris Pratt said:

XT isn't worth it, unless the price is virtually the same (which it probably won't be). They're just better binned, and clock a little higher as a result, but it's only like 200Mhz max. You might be able to get a stable 200Mhz OC on even a 3600. Even if not, you're unlikely to notice much of a difference, and certainly not one worth the usual $100 spread.

okay noted thankyou

[Helpful Tech Witch]

2 minutes ago, KSKGAMETV said:

okay noted thankyou

thats 435total, out of your 450 budget. 

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 7 3800X 3.9 GHz 8-Core Processor	£307.99 @ Amazon UK
Motherboard	Gigabyte B550M AORUS PRO Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard	£124.99 @ CCL Computers
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	£432.98
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-09-10 23:43 BST+0100

 

[dizmo]

Don't buy now, we're so close to the launch of the new stuff.

If you're gaming, you want the 3000 series or better.

It's not like the 3600 can't video edit. It just does so a little bit slower, and I highly doubt you're doing it for a living, so it doesn't really matter.

[VeganJoy]

17 minutes ago, dizmo said:

Don't buy now, we're so close to the launch of the new stuff.

If you're gaming, you want the 3000 series or better.

It's not like the 3600 can't video edit. It just does so a little bit slower, and I highly doubt you're doing it for a living, so it doesn't really matter.

the 2700x and 3600 are pretty close in a lot of games. the 3600 definitely has a bit of a lead there but the 2700x has better multicore processing iirc. if the 2700x is cheaper (saw some under 150 bucks used for a while there) then its a great deal

[-rascal-]

1 hour ago, HelpfulTechWizard said:

thats 435total, out of your 450 budget. 

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 7 3800X 3.9 GHz 8-Core Processor	£307.99 @ Amazon UK
Motherboard	Gigabyte B550M AORUS PRO Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard	£124.99 @ CCL Computers
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	£432.98
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-09-10 23:43 BST+0100

 

 

If OP wants to save ~25.00, the Ryzen 3700X will do just as fine.

Both 3700X and 3800X use a single fully intact 8-core chiplet (8-cores / 16-threads), but the 3700X simply has a higher Base and Turbo clock.

274.00 for the 3700X.

 

My two...pence.

[VeganJoy]

4 minutes ago, -rascal- said:

Both 3700X and 3800X use a single fully intact 8-core chiplet (8-cores / 16-threads)

should be two 4 core chiplets, basically two 3300x's on one die. hoping we get a single chiplet 8 core with zen 3 though, thatd be pretty kickass

[dizmo]

1 hour ago, VeganJoy said:

the 2700x and 3600 are pretty close in a lot of games. the 3600 definitely has a bit of a lead there but the 2700x has better multicore processing iirc. if the 2700x is cheaper (saw some under 150 bucks used for a while there) then its a great deal

Depends how you look at it. The 3600 is about 10% faster then the 2700x in relative gaming performance, which doesn't sound like much, but the 9900k is only about 10% faster than the 3600, and people rave about its gaming performance. Most people's "I edit videos" work isn't really at the point where they'd want to sacrifice it over the gaming performance, especially if high refresh rates are coming into it. At least that's what I've found on this forum with it's audience. 

[-rascal-]

13 minutes ago, VeganJoy said:

should be two 4 core chiplets, basically two 3300x's on one die. hoping we get a single chiplet 8 core with zen 3 though, thatd be pretty kickass

 

Oh FU#K .... totally forgot...

 

[xg32]

2 hours ago, KSKGAMETV said:

yes not to far away might be worth the wait 

if you don't wait for zen 3 you'll likely regret it, the possibility of 2000 fclk with 4.7 zen 3 will blow every current cpu out of the water. (one can dream). october 8th

[VeganJoy]

1 hour ago, -rascal- said:

 

Oh FU#K .... totally forgot...

 

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ah chiplets and ccxs, hard to keep track of which is which lol