Do you need b550 or x570 for rtx 3000?

[Lotinsh]

I was looking to buy a 3070, money is tight, do I really need a new motherboard? I have a asrockasrock ab350m pro4 r2.0, I know its not PCIe 4.0 but will the bottleneck be noticeable? I just want some performance for cheap. 

My current specs are: ryzen 3200g, rx590 550w psu 16gb ram 2666mhz

[Mateyyy]

Your motherboard won't "bottleneck" a 3070, I'm just curious what CPU you've got in said board.

[RadiatingLight]

No, the change from PCIe3 to PCIe4 is basically a non-issue. OFC you should wait for reviews and performance benchmarks, but it seems likely that there will be a negligible decrease, if any.

[Viper9]

Nobody knows until the benchmarks are released. 

[DailyProcrastinator]

2 minutes ago, Lotinsh said:

I was looking to buy a 3070, money is tight, do I really need a new motherboard? I have a asrockasrock ab350m pro4 r2.0, I know its not PCIe 4.0 but will the bottleneck be noticeable? I just want some performance for cheap. 

You do not NEED it, as PCIe 4.0 GPU's are backwards compatible. However we do not yet know the performance advantages of PCIe 3.0 vs 4.0 motherboards. Like everyone we need to patiently wait for in depth reviews. 

[AndrewZScorpion]

I’d be more concerned about the 3200g being a bottleneck than PCIe 3.0

[Haro]

10 hours ago, Lotinsh said:

I have a asrockasrock ab350m pro4 r2.0, I know its not PCIe 4.0 but will the bottleneck be noticeable?

No, for the most part x16 gen 3 is more than enough for a 3070 and it should not saturate it but wait for ampere to actually launch and check. but again it shouldn't affect anything.

10 hours ago, Lotinsh said:

ryzen 3200g

Yea, no, a better cpu and something like a 3060 when ever that releases is a better thing to do.

[Lotinsh]

3 minutes ago, Mateyyy said:

Your motherboard won't "bottleneck" a 3070, I'm just curious what CPU you've got in said board.

Ryzen 3200g lol, anyways, thanksfor everyone letting me know, I appreciate your help a lot

 

[Lotinsh]

1 minute ago, TofuHaroto said:

No, for the most part x16 gen 3 is more than enough for a 3070 and it should not saturate it but wait for ampere to actually launch and check. but again it shouldn't affect anything.

Yea, no, a better cpu and something like a 3060 when ever that releases is a better thing to do.

I am going to buy a new cpu as well, now knowing that my shitty motherboard is enough, hope the psu will be, I'm probably gonna buy 2600x or 3600 maybe, just maybe 3600x, also because I do 3d modeling I might buy 2700x

[Mateyyy]

6 minutes ago, Lotinsh said:

Ryzen 3200g

Yeah you'll be choking that 3070 horribly. I'd suggest getting something like a Ryzen 3600 and waiting for the RTX 3060 or RDNA2, if AMD does bring a card cheaper than the 3070 at launch.

[Lotinsh]

10 minutes ago, Lotinsh said:

I am going to buy a new cpu as well, now knowing that my shitty motherboard is enough, hope the psu will be, I'm probably gonna buy 2600x or 3600 maybe, just maybe 3600x, also because I do 3d modeling I might buy 2700x

@Mateyyy yeah, cpu I'm getting a new one as I havo no choice mine is a liiitle but broken lol, if amd will bring better gpus for lower cost, I will consider them, might be worth the rtx loss

[RadiatingLight]

3 minutes ago, Lotinsh said:

@Mateyyy yeah, cpu I'm getting a new one as I havo no choice mine is a liiitle but broken lol, if amd will bring better gpus for lower cost, I will consider them, might be worth the rtx loss

For CPU, I think you could probably swing for the 3700X once the 4000 series comes out and the 3000 series gets cheap.

 

Also make sure your motherboard is compatible with 3000 series CPUs.

[Lotinsh]

5 minutes ago, RadiatingLight said:

For CPU, I think you could probably swing for the 3700X once the 4000 series comes out and the 3000 series gets cheap.

 

Also make sure your motherboard is compatible with 3000 series CPUs.

I looked it can support up to ryzen 9 3000, as far as I know, with latest bios. @Mateyyy

Edit: my cpu budget is 150-200€ so I'll see what I can get for that price

[Haro]

10 hours ago, Lotinsh said:

I looked it can support up to ryzen 9 3000,

it technically can, though that board does not have the best vrm to say the least, it wont be able to handle a 3900x sadly.

something like a 3600 should be a nice upgrade from the 3200g. and i would not use anything better than a 3700x with that board.

[Lotinsh]

9 minutes ago, TofuHaroto said:

it technically can, though that board does not have the best vrm to say the least, it wont be able to handle a 3900x sadly.

something like a 3600 should be a nice upgrade from the 3200g. and i would not use anything better than a 3700x with that board.

@TofuHarotonice, 9 3000 was not in my budget anyway the 3700x might be tho, I was wondering about the vram, I mean, you always have the option to liquid nitrogen cool it

[Haro]

10 hours ago, Lotinsh said:

I was wondering about the vram

it's 2 high side mosfets that i forgot what they're called. (lol). and 2 SM4336's for the low side.

[Lotinsh]

2 minutes ago, TofuHaroto said:

it's 2 high side mosfets that i forgot what they're called. (lol). and 2 SM4336's for the low side.

Hope it won't catch on fire

 

[Haro]

10 hours ago, Lotinsh said:

Hope it won't catch on fire

 

No it wont, if they overheat, the board will probably shut down it self assuming it has over temp protections. (which it should but i'm not sure.)

[Lotinsh]

2 minutes ago, TofuHaroto said:

No it wont, if they overheat, the board will probably shut down it self assuming it has over temp protections. (which it should but i'm not sure.)

Oh, then that's good, I'm safe, thanks a lot for your info, if you have time, do I need a better psu? I have 80+ 550w Corsair 550v psu

[Haro]

10 hours ago, Lotinsh said:

I have 80+ 550w Corsair 550v psu

a vs? if so yea... not a unit i would pair with a 3070. 

[Lotinsh]

Just now, TofuHaroto said:

a vs? if so yea... not a unit i would pair with a 3070. 

Yeah, I might need to upgrade that too what psu do you recomend? 

[Haro]

10 hours ago, Lotinsh said:

what psu do you recomend? 

as for power consumption wait for ampere to actually come out and check the 3070's power consumption.

as for models, MWE Gold 550w, rm550x, tx550m, revolution D.F, BitFenix Whisper M, BitFenix forumla gold, ION+, AMP, Focus GM, straight power 11 (gold), pure power 11 are some decent options.

[Lotinsh]

2 minutes ago, TofuHaroto said:

as for power consumption wait for ampere to actually come out and check the 3070's power consumption.

as for models, MWE Gold 550w, rm550x, tx550m, revolution D.F, BitFenix Whisper M, BitFenix forumla gold, ION+, AMP, Focus GM, straight power 11 (gold), pure power 11 are some decent options.

Thanks a lot for your help, I appreciate it a lot