New Seasonic PSU

[george_george]

Hi,

Recently, I found psu noted as Seasonic Focus Gold 650 semi-modular, 7-year warranty with very friedndly pricing -85 €. It seemed to be a one day price drop. At that time I was considering replacing my 6 years old Cooler Master B600 watt ver 2., that had never been cleaned of dust, so I didn't hesitate and ordered one. When it arrived I found out, that I received Seasonic FOCUS but without orange ,,GOLD" under its logo. The current look was different from pictures from the stores website. Actually this one is noted as Seasonic focus GM-650 (this one: https://seasonic.com/focus-gm). To cite product website there is stated: ,, The newly upgraded FOCUS GM series is the successor to the FOCUS Series". interesting is, that the one I got has the same Safety Model Name as the one with orange GOLD  - SSR-650FM.

So I assume I received the newer version of that PSU, am I right? Is this better one or not? Because I can't find any review.

 

To add some components of my PC: GPU -gtx 1060, intel haswell i5-4590 with some old cooler master tower fan, 16 gb ram (4x4), 2tb SSHD, DVD optical drive, 5x 120mm fans and 2x 60mm fans.

 

I guess 650 watt would be overkill for my specs. But with my older gtx 760 with higher tdp, cooler master psu had some problems that disappeard after replacing it with 1060. In near future, I would like to upgrade to ryzen 3600, ssd and probably gtx 2060 if prices go down. In my country, the prices of corsair PSUs are too hight but on the other hand this seasonic seemed worh it to buy considering the balance between price and performance. The 550 watt semi-modular version is not available here and Seasonic focus GX 550 with 10- year warranty fullly modular costs 88 €. Another one I was considering was EVGA 600BR. 

To sum up, my question is should I return it and find another one? Keep it although my sepcs don't gonna use that much energy? Or run my pc at the current one? I haven't use this PSU yet.

Thank you for your help!

[glennhl]

That's the new Focus GM-650, it's an excellent psu.  I bought one from Amazon for $99 a couple of months ago.  Here's a photo that shows the part number is still SSR-650FM. 

 

[LienusLateTips]

43 minutes ago, george_george said:

Hi,

Recently, I found psu noted as Seasonic Focus Gold 650 semi-modular, 7-year warranty with very friedndly pricing -85 €. It seemed to be a one day price drop. At that time I was considering replacing my 6 years old Cooler Master B600 watt ver 2., that had never been cleaned of dust, so I didn't hesitate and ordered one. When it arrived I found out, that I received Seasonic FOCUS but without orange ,,GOLD" under its logo. The current look was different from pictures from the stores website. Actually this one is noted as Seasonic focus GM-650 (this one: https://seasonic.com/focus-gm). To cite product website there is stated: ,, The newly upgraded FOCUS GM series is the successor to the FOCUS Series". interesting is, that the one I got has the same Safety Model Name as the one with orange GOLD  - SSR-650FM.

So I assume I received the newer version of that PSU, am I right? Is this better one or not? Because I can't find any review.

 

To add some components of my PC: GPU -gtx 1060, intel haswell i5-4590 with some old cooler master tower fan, 16 gb ram (4x4), 2tb SSHD, DVD optical drive, 5x 120mm fans and 2x 60mm fans.

 

I guess 650 watt would be overkill for my specs. But with my older gtx 760 with higher tdp, cooler master psu had some problems that disappeard after replacing it with 1060. In near future, I would like to upgrade to ryzen 3600, ssd and probably gtx 2060 if prices go down. In my country, the prices of corsair PSUs are too hight but on the other hand this seasonic seemed worh it to buy considering the balance between price and performance. The 550 watt semi-modular version is not available here and Seasonic focus GX 550 with 10- year warranty fullly modular costs 88 €. Another one I was considering was EVGA 600BR. 

To sum up, my question is should I return it and find another one? Keep it although my sepcs don't gonna use that much energy? Or run my pc at the current one? I haven't use this PSU yet.

Thank you for your help!

This PSU is perfectly fine. No need to return it.

 

The cooler master issue had problems probably because it's old and wasn't that great to begin with. The GTX 760 system can easily run on a 450W PSU. 

 

Don't buy the 600BR though, that's of quite poor quality.

[george_george]

3 hours ago, glennhl said:

That's the new Focus GM-650, it's an excellent psu.  I bought one from Amazon for $99 a couple of months ago.  Here's a photo that shows the part number is still SSR-650FM. 

 

Yes! That is exactly the same I received. And if I may ask you, does the fan always turn on or only if it is under some % of load?

[seon123]

1 hour ago, george_george said:

Yes! That is exactly the same I received. And if I may ask you, does the fan always turn on or only if it is under some % of load?

The (crappy) fan spins at all loads on the Focus. On the Focus Plus, it has a semi passive mode (still crappy fan)

[glennhl]

The (excellent) fan spins slowly if there is no load.  I never hear the (excellent) fan even under load.  From the Seasonic website:

S²FC - Smart and Silent Fan Control

The intelligent thermal circuit feature is designed to find the optimal balance between the necessity to cool the components and the need to run the power supply in the most silent manner possible.

 

The fan runs in the silent mode up to 50% load.  And the fan also has a fluid dynamic bearing. 

 

I think seon123 must be thinking about the Seasonic CORE GM-650 which does have a crappy fan. 

[LienusLateTips]

1 minute ago, glennhl said:

The (excellent) fan spins slowly if there is no load.  I never hear the (excellent) fan even under load.  From the Seasonic website:

S²FC - Smart and Silent Fan Control

The intelligent thermal circuit feature is designed to find the optimal balance between the necessity to cool the components and the need to run the power supply in the most silent manner possible.

 

The fan runs in the silent mode up to 50% load.  And the fan also has a fluid dynamic bearing. 

 

I think seon123 must be thinking about the Seasonic CORE GM-650 which does have a crappy fan. 

Nope, he's definitely thinking about the FOCUS. it's very well known for having a crappy fan and revving up at load

[seon123]

26 minutes ago, glennhl said:

The (excellent) fan spins slowly if there is no load.  I never hear the (excellent) fan even under load.  From the Seasonic website:

S²FC - Smart and Silent Fan Control

The intelligent thermal circuit feature is designed to find the optimal balance between the necessity to cool the components and the need to run the power supply in the most silent manner possible.

 

The fan runs in the silent mode up to 50% load.  And the fan also has a fluid dynamic bearing. 

 

I think seon123 must be thinking about the Seasonic CORE GM-650 which does have a crappy fan. 

Seasonic likes to use the same crappy Hong Hua fan for a lot of their PSUs, including the Prime Ultra Titanium series. I have the Prime Titanium, and the loudest part of my PC under load is the ticking motor noise from the PSU fan. It's a crappy fan, which bothers people that have functioning ears and PCs that aren't as loud as jet engines. Also, the fan is crappy at moving air, so it needs to spin faster than if Seasonic had chosen an actually decent fan. One major difference between the Corsair RMx and RM 2019 is downgrading the fan from an NR135 variant to basically the same Hong Hua fan that Seasonic uses. The result is of course lower costs for the manufacturer, and the fan needing to spin faster to cool the PSU.

 

What Seasonic is talking about with their "silent mode" is that the fan just spins at its minimum RPM. Which you can also see on their graph of the fan RPM, right next to the marketing blurb that you copy pasted.

Spoiler

 

[glennhl]

seon123, thank you so much for this information.  And you are right, I probably can't hear the PSU fan because I hear the case fans spinning up when the CPU gets warm.