Rethinking my X570 Tomohawk for my build

[Jason 57]

4 minutes ago, Jason 57 said:

I can't believe that the power supply that was recommend is gone now. Man, supplies are LOW!!

Actually, I just looked again, and at B&H, the PSU is there. 

 

It's funny, the R5 3600 went back up to $170. It was at $155 when we started this conversation. 

[Mateyyy]

5 minutes ago, Jason 57 said:

I can't believe that the power supply that was recommend is gone now. Man, supplies are LOW!!

How about these?

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/bqVD4D/corsair-rmx-2018-550w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-cp-9020177-na

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/YdXYcf/fractal-design-ion-560-w-80-platinum-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-fd-psu-ionp-560p-bk

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/3H2bt6/seasonic-focus-550-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-focus-gx-550

[Jason 57]

1 minute ago, Mateyyy said:

How about these?

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/bqVD4D/corsair-rmx-2018-550w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-cp-9020177-na

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/YdXYcf/fractal-design-ion-560-w-80-platinum-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-fd-psu-ionp-560p-bk

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/3H2bt6/seasonic-focus-550-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-focus-gx-550

Well, the Be Quiet is also at B&H. 

You know I haven't bought much for the new PSU market. I spent too much on my son's Antec 1000W 80+ Platnium for his build. 

So I am second guessing the CRAP out of this choice for me. 

 

You always make some GREAT recommendations for me. SO many choices. LOL

[Mateyyy]

5 minutes ago, Jason 57 said:

Well, the Be Quiet is also at B&H. 

You know I haven't bought much for the new PSU market. I spent too much on my son's Antec 1000W 80+ Platnium for his build. 

So I am second guessing the CRAP out of this choice for me. 

 

You always make some GREAT recommendations for me. SO many choices. LOL

Oh, yeah I hadn't noticed your other reply.

If you've got an extra $5 to spend over the Straight Power 11, the RMx is technically better, though both are very solid. The Ion+ comes next, also really good performance. The Focus GM/GX is last, mostly because of its loud fan.

[Jason 57]

1 minute ago, Mateyyy said:

Oh, yeah I hadn't noticed your other reply.

If you've got an extra $5 to spend over the Straight Power 11, the RMx is technically better, though both are very solid. The Ion+ comes next, also really good performance. The Focus GM/GX is last, mostly because of its loud fan.

OK. Let me look at the Corsairs

[Jason 57]

So I picked up the Corsair from them.

 

Sadly, all the cases just up and SOLD OUT!!

 

How many roadblocks can I get for this one. LOL

 

I haven't pulled the trigger on CPU or memory yet. At least I got some of the hard thinking stuff out of the way!

 

I can't believe the P300A is out as well. My only issue there is that I have to buy another SSD bracket for what I currently have. GEEZ. 

 

I told my daughter, I should get a bigger SSD, But Newegg does have a Crucial NVMe 1TB for about $100. 

[Jason 57]

@Mateyyy so of course Newegg makes this on sale. Check this out on @Newegg: G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3600 (PC4 28800) Desktop Memory Model F4-3600C18D-16GVK https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232882?Item=N82E16820232882&Source=socialshare&cm_mmc=snc-social-_-sr-_-20-232-882-_-08042020

 

It's half the size I wanted, but I know everyone keeps saying 16GB is enough. 

It's the speed I want, just a CL18 instead of CL16. But it is $90 less. 

Oh the decisions. 

[Mateyyy]

7 hours ago, Jason 57 said:

I can't believe the P300A is out as well. My only issue there is that I have to buy another SSD bracket for what I currently have. GEEZ. 

 

I told my daughter, I should get a bigger SSD, But Newegg does have a Crucial NVMe 1TB for about $100. 

I assume that's the Crucial P1 going for $100, right? I wouldn't get that for the OS, personally.

 

These seem to be in stock:

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/FCK2FT/be-quiet-pure-base-500dx-atx-mid-tower-case-bgw37

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/nL7v6h/fractal-design-meshify-c-tg-atx-mid-tower-case-fd-ca-mesh-c-bko-tgl

Though with the Meshify C you'll need to throw in a couple extra 140mm intakes in the front, to get the most out of it. NF-A14 and Silent Wings 3 are my preferred ones, but Arctic's P14 are quite good for the money.

 

2 hours ago, Jason 57 said:

@Mateyyy so of course Newegg makes this on sale. Check this out on @Newegg: G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3600 (PC4 28800) Desktop Memory Model F4-3600C18D-16GVK https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232882?Item=N82E16820232882&Source=socialshare&cm_mmc=snc-social-_-sr-_-20-232-882-_-08042020

 

It's half the size I wanted, but I know everyone keeps saying 16GB is enough. 

It's the speed I want, just a CL18 instead of CL16. But it is $90 less. 

Oh the decisions. 

That's not.. particularly great, as in a 3200MHz CL16 kit is still slightly cheaper on average if I'm not mistaken, and that's very similar performance-wise.

[Jason 57]

Well I spent a bunch of money in the last few days.

But I think I have my upgrade ordered.

 

Thanks @Mateyyy and @TofuHaroto!!

I will do my best to tag you both in the thread for the actual build!

 

Now to modify my desk (preferably before my parts come in) so everything is off the floor!

Just have to get the sinks cleaned with my scrub brush that attaches to my power drill, mow the lawn and make a shelf for the modem and router.

 

Pictures on different threads to follow, I HOPE.

 

[Jason 57]

So I put the parts into a sys build on PPP. 

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor	$173.99 @ Amazon
Motherboard	MSI MAG X570 TOMAHAWK WIFI ATX AM4 Motherboard
Memory	G.Skill Ripjaws V 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory	$144.99 @ Newegg
Case	Lian Li Lancool II Mesh ATX Mid Tower Case
Power Supply	Corsair RMx (2018) 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply	$114.99 @ Corsair
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	$433.97
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-08-08 00:41 EDT-0400

 

 

Only one issue. Looks like the PSU I bought doesn't have the extra CPU my MB has. I don't think it will matter with the Ryzen 5 3600. But just disappointed in myself for not checking first before purchasing.

Just FYI. @Mateyyy and @TofuHaroto

 

of course, I could have picked the wrong part in PPP. 

guess we shall see when it all gets here, and I assemble. 

3 are here, 2 more to go!!!

Edited August 8, 2020 by Jason 57
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[Haro]

17 hours ago, Jason 57 said:

But just disappointed in myself for not checking first before purchasing.

only the single 8 pin is required. the extra one is for heavy overclocking like ln2 which with ambient you wont be able to do. 

the single 8 pin can provide 384w of power  easily which with a 3600, you wont be able to reach even if hammered. 

so no worries. 

[Jason 57]

Just now, TofuHaroto said:

only the single 8 pin is required. the extra one is for heavy overclocking like ln2 which with ambient you wont be able to do. 

the single 8 pin can provide 384w of power  easily which with a 3600, you wont be able to reach even if hammered. 

so no worries. 

I figured that was the case. Just didn't know the raw data numbers!

I appreciate the information

 

 

One other question still floating in my head. I thought about getting a NVMe drive as a scratch drive for my converting programs. With the much higher read and write speeds, it shouldn't take as long to convert videos. 

Not going to get PCIE4, (price to $ not there yet) but at least PCIE3, should be quick enough to see a difference, besides the big change I should see in CPUs. 

[Mateyyy]

7 hours ago, Jason 57 said:

Only one issue. Looks like the PSU I bought doesn't have the extra CPU my MB has. I don't think it will matter with the Ryzen 5 3600. But just disappointed in myself for not checking first before purchasing.

You don't need more than a single 8-pin EPS on any AM4 CPU available at the moment, so that's really a nonissue. 

[Jason 57]

13 minutes ago, Mateyyy said:

You don't need more than a single 8-pin EPS on any AM4 CPU available at the moment, so that's really a nonissue. 

This helps my ego . 

I was feeling disappointed, like am I losing my touch here????!!!!

I mean, I spent $460 ( to order the last 3 components I needed) while waiting for my boss to call me back when I worked a 16 hour day on Wednesday. 

I feel bad when I make a few wrong choices when building other people PCs, but it is 10X that when it is for my system. (Darn ego!)

 

 

[Bartholomew]

1 hour ago, Jason 57 said:

 

One other question still floating in my head. I thought about getting a NVMe drive as a scratch drive for my converting programs. With the much higher read and write speeds, it shouldn't take as long to convert videos. 

Not going to get PCIE4, (price to $ not there yet) but at least PCIE3, should be quick enough to see a difference, besides the big change I should see in CPUs. 

Might not make a difference, but it will depend strongly on the type of conversion.

If you are transcoding I dont think any cpu will deliver 600mb/s comverted data to any drive

 

Im running a 12 core, and even then conversion or editing of 4k material doesnt make a noticable difference if i work of one of my sata or nvme drives.

 

If you do a lot of large file conversions/editing/postproduction (like me, about a few 100gbs 4k stuff worth a month) then also keep an eye on write endurance specs when looking for a ssd (some have double of others at the same pricepoint, and that write endurance is then more important than some 10% speed benchmark difference).

 

Another thing is to pick appropriate oversize depending on the application, ssds tend to slow once they are filled beyond something like 75% (thats not a exact number but just made up to illustrate and indicate the phenomena).

 

Hope this helps, happy building!