Posted July 29, 2020 For an under $1500 build, which one should I get? It will be paired with a 3700X. I don't want to utilize the full $1500, since the PC will be a gift to me (i do not want to waste other people's money). The PC will be used for "heavy" gaming, video and photo editing, and music creation. The resolution I wanted to game at is 1080 or 1440 at 60FPS. I originally wanted the 2070S for the performance, but I had second thoughts about the ~500 price tag (AMD is a good value, but I would like ray tracing). Could a monitor also be recommended for the GPU that is best? System CPU Intel i5-3470 / Core 2 Quad Q6600 Motherboard some piece of trash / other piece of garbage RAM 8 gigs of Ripjaws X DDR3-2666 / 7 GB of DDR2 stuff GPU none. / XFX R9-280X Case some Dell thing / another HP case Storage 500 gig Seagate Barracuda, 250 gig Kingston SSD / 120 gig PNY SSD, 1TB WD Blue, 1TB Samsung HDD (not plugged in) PSU some chinese dumpster fire / 500W Silverstone Cooling intelstock heatsink / Coolermaster thing thats worse than intelstock Keyboard Asus Cerberus Mouse Logitech G300s Sound Creative Inspire T6300 5.1 Surround Speakers, Turtle Beach Earforce X12 Operating System Windows 10, wInDOwS 10 Laptop Surface Pro the Fourth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted July 29, 2020 Does the $1500 budget also include the monitor? Also, I assume that if the build's going to be a gift for you, waiting a couple more months for Ampere and RDNA2 GPUs to launch isn't an option, right? Desktop: Intel Core i9-9900K | ASUS Strix Z390-F | G.Skill Trident Z Neo 2x16GB @ 3200MHz CL14 | EVGA GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER XC Ultra | Corsair RM650x | Fractal Design Define R6 Laptop: 2018 Apple MacBook Pro 13" -- i5-8259U | 8GB LPDDR3 | 512GB NVMe Peripherals: Leopold FC660C w/ Topre Silent 45g | Logitech MX Master 3 & Razer Basilisk X HyperSpeed | HIFIMAN HE400se & iFi ZEN DAC | Audio-Technica AT2020USB+ Display: Gigabyte G34WQC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted July 29, 2020 2070 Super i believe is a really good choice but if you won't be playing RTX Minecraft or Metro, a 2060 or 70 will be perfectly fine. PC specs: Ryzen 9 3900X overclocked to 4.3-4.4 GHz Corsair H100i platinum 32 GB Trident Z RGB 3200 MHz 14-14-14-34 RTX 2060 MSI MPG X570 Gaming Edge wifi NZXT H510 Samsung 860 EVO 500GB 2 TB WD hard drive Corsair RM 750 Watt ASUS ROG PG248Q Razer Ornata Chroma Razer Firefly Razer Deathadder 2013 Logitech G935 Wireless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted July 29, 2020 Author 1 minute ago, Mateyyy said: Does the $1500 budget also include the monitor? Also, I assume that if the build's going to be a gift for you, waiting a couple more months for Ampere and RDNA2 GPUs to launch isn't an option, right? No, I will probably buy the monitor myself. Preferably it should be under $300. I would wait, but i'm operating off of a Core 2 Quad right now. System CPU Intel i5-3470 / Core 2 Quad Q6600 Motherboard some piece of trash / other piece of garbage RAM 8 gigs of Ripjaws X DDR3-2666 / 7 GB of DDR2 stuff GPU none. / XFX R9-280X Case some Dell thing / another HP case Storage 500 gig Seagate Barracuda, 250 gig Kingston SSD / 120 gig PNY SSD, 1TB WD Blue, 1TB Samsung HDD (not plugged in) PSU some chinese dumpster fire / 500W Silverstone Cooling intelstock heatsink / Coolermaster thing thats worse than intelstock Keyboard Asus Cerberus Mouse Logitech G300s Sound Creative Inspire T6300 5.1 Surround Speakers, Turtle Beach Earforce X12 Operating System Windows 10, wInDOwS 10 Laptop Surface Pro the Fourth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted July 29, 2020 Author 3 minutes ago, eeeee1 said: 2070 Super i believe is a really good choice but if you won't be playing RTX Minecraft or Metro, a 2060 or 70 will be perfectly fine. I'll probably get RTX Minecraft, Starfield/TESVI (when they finally come out), whatever the new Battlefield will be, ultra-modded Bethesda games (that's what inspired me to get a PC, my Xbox kept crashing playing no-mod Fallout 4), and other assorted games. I would like the GPU to focus on open-world games, with "super-duper" settings with RTX on. In non-competitive titles, FPS is less of a priority over things looking good, but it can't be less than 30-50FPS. The card must also be better than the new Xbox. What is the performance between the 2070 and 2070S? System CPU Intel i5-3470 / Core 2 Quad Q6600 Motherboard some piece of trash / other piece of garbage RAM 8 gigs of Ripjaws X DDR3-2666 / 7 GB of DDR2 stuff GPU none. / XFX R9-280X Case some Dell thing / another HP case Storage 500 gig Seagate Barracuda, 250 gig Kingston SSD / 120 gig PNY SSD, 1TB WD Blue, 1TB Samsung HDD (not plugged in) PSU some chinese dumpster fire / 500W Silverstone Cooling intelstock heatsink / Coolermaster thing thats worse than intelstock Keyboard Asus Cerberus Mouse Logitech G300s Sound Creative Inspire T6300 5.1 Surround Speakers, Turtle Beach Earforce X12 Operating System Windows 10, wInDOwS 10 Laptop Surface Pro the Fourth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted July 29, 2020 The RTX non-Super has been succeeded by the RTX Super line-up, essentially. You'd want to get a Super variant, so RTX 2060 Super / RTX 2060 KO (EVGA exclusive) / RTX 2070 Super. Are you limited to nVidia RTX cards? Would you consider AMD RX 5000-series or RX-500 series line-up? Because...in the same $400+ price bracket, you get a RTX 2060 Super, but you get close to RTX 2070 Super performance with a RX 5700 XT. Intel Z390 Rig ( *NEW* Primary ) Intel X99 Rig (Officially Decommissioned, Dead CPU returned to Intel) i7-8086K @ 5.1 GHz Gigabyte Z390 Aorus Master Sapphire NITRO+ RX 6800 XT S.E + EKwb Quantum Vector Full Cover Waterblock 32GB G.Skill TridentZ DDR4-3000 CL14 @ DDR-3400 custom CL15 timings SanDisk 480 GB SSD + 1TB Samsung 860 EVO + 500GB Samsung 980 + 1TB WD SN750 EVGA SuperNOVA 850W P2 + Red/White CableMod Cables Lian-Li O11 Dynamic EVO XL Ekwb Custom loop + 2x EKwb Quantum Surface P360M Radiators Logitech G502 Proteus Spectrum + Corsair K70 (Red LED, anodized black, Cheery MX Browns) AMD Ryzen Rig AMD R7-5800X Gigabyte B550 Aorus Pro AC 32GB (16GB X 2) Crucial Ballistix RGB DDR4-3600 Gigabyte Vision RTX 3060 Ti OC EKwb D-RGB 360mm AIO Intel 660p NVMe 1TB + Crucial MX500 1TB + WD Black 1TB HDD EVGA P2 850W + White CableMod cables Lian-Li LanCool II Mesh - White Intel Z97 Rig (Decomissioned) Intel i5-4690K @ 4.8 GHz ASUS ROG Maximus VII Hero Z97 Sapphire Vapor-X HD 7950 EVGA GTX 1070 SC Black Edition ACX 3.0 20 GB (8GB X 2 + 4GB X 1) Corsair Vengeance DDR3 1600 MHz Corsair A50 air cooler NZXT X61 Crucial MX500 1TB SSD + SanDisk Ultra II 240GB SSD + WD Caviar Black 1TB HDD + Kingston V300 120GB SSD [non-gimped version] Antec New TruePower 550W EVGA G2 650W + White CableMod cables Cooler Master HAF 912 White NZXT S340 Elite w/ white LED stips AMD 990FX Rig (Decommissioned) FX-8350 @ 4.8 / 4.9 GHz (given up on the 5.0 / 5.1 GHz attempt) ASUS ROG Crosshair V Formula 990FX 12 GB (4 GB X 3) G.Skill RipJawsX DDR3 @ 1866 MHz Sapphire Vapor-X HD 7970 + Sapphire Dual-X HD 7970 in Crossfire Sapphire NITRO R9-Fury in Crossfire *NONE* Thermaltake Frio w/ Cooler Master JetFlo's in push-pull Samsung 850 EVO 500GB SSD + Kingston V300 120GB SSD + WD Caviar Black 1TB HDD Corsair TX850 (ver.1) Cooler Master HAF 932 <> Electrical Engineer , B.Eng <> <> Electronics & Computer Engineering Technologist (Diploma + Advanced Diploma) <> <> Electronics Engineering Technician for the Canadian Department of National Defence <> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted July 29, 2020 PCPartPicker Part List Type Item Price CPU AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor $279.99 @ Amazon CPU Cooler be quiet! Dark Rock 4 CPU Cooler $74.90 @ Amazon Motherboard MSI B550-A PRO ATX AM4 Motherboard $144.99 @ B&H Memory G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory $77.99 @ Newegg Storage Silicon Power A80 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive $129.99 @ Amazon Video Card NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 SUPER 8 GB Video Card $399.99 @ Best Buy Case Phanteks Eclipse P300A Mesh ATX Mid Tower Case $59.99 @ Amazon Power Supply be quiet! Straight Power 11 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply $109.90 @ B&H Case Fan be quiet! SilentWings 3 PWM High-Speed 77.57 CFM 140 mm Fan $22.89 @ Amazon Case Fan be quiet! SilentWings 3 PWM High-Speed 77.57 CFM 140 mm Fan $22.89 @ Amazon Monitor Asus TUF GAMING VG249Q 23.8" 1920x1080 144 Hz Monitor $249.00 @ B&H Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts Total $1572.52 Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-07-29 17:05 EDT-0400 A little over $1500 with the monitor included. Desktop: Intel Core i9-9900K | ASUS Strix Z390-F | G.Skill Trident Z Neo 2x16GB @ 3200MHz CL14 | EVGA GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER XC Ultra | Corsair RM650x | Fractal Design Define R6 Laptop: 2018 Apple MacBook Pro 13" -- i5-8259U | 8GB LPDDR3 | 512GB NVMe Peripherals: Leopold FC660C w/ Topre Silent 45g | Logitech MX Master 3 & Razer Basilisk X HyperSpeed | HIFIMAN HE400se & iFi ZEN DAC | Audio-Technica AT2020USB+ Display: Gigabyte G34WQC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted July 29, 2020 2 minutes ago, VestiaryFlea867 said: I'll probably get RTX Minecraft, Starfield/TESVI (when they finally come out), whatever the new Battlefield will be, ultra-modded Bethesda games (that's what inspired me to get a PC, my Xbox kept crashing playing no-mod Fallout 4), and other assorted games. I would like the GPU to focus on open-world games, with "super-duper" settings with RTX on. In non-competitive titles, FPS is less of a priority over things looking good, but it can't be less than 30-50FPS. The card must also be better than the new Xbox. What is the performance between the 2070 and 2070S? to my knowledge, i think a 2070 super is pretty close to a 2080 PC specs: Ryzen 9 3900X overclocked to 4.3-4.4 GHz Corsair H100i platinum 32 GB Trident Z RGB 3200 MHz 14-14-14-34 RTX 2060 MSI MPG X570 Gaming Edge wifi NZXT H510 Samsung 860 EVO 500GB 2 TB WD hard drive Corsair RM 750 Watt ASUS ROG PG248Q Razer Ornata Chroma Razer Firefly Razer Deathadder 2013 Logitech G935 Wireless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted July 29, 2020 Author 2 minutes ago, -rascal- said: The RTX non-Super has been succeeded by the RTX Super line-up, essentially. You'd want to get a Super variant, so RTX 2060 Super / RTX 2060 KO (EVGA exclusive) / RTX 2070 Super. Are you limited to nVidia RTX cards? Would you consider AMD RX 5000-series or RX-500 series line-up? Because...in the same $400+ price bracket, you get a RTX 2060 Super, but you get close to RTX 2070 Super performance with a RX 5700 XT. The AMD cards are a very good value, but I would like RTX, and little driver issues. (i'm a little of an Nvidia fanboy too) 1 minute ago, Mateyyy said: Video Card NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 SUPER 8 GB Video Card $399.99 @ Best Buy Aren't 2070's also $400? (at least at my area). I'd rather get a 2070. BTW I already had parts picked out. System CPU Intel i5-3470 / Core 2 Quad Q6600 Motherboard some piece of trash / other piece of garbage RAM 8 gigs of Ripjaws X DDR3-2666 / 7 GB of DDR2 stuff GPU none. / XFX R9-280X Case some Dell thing / another HP case Storage 500 gig Seagate Barracuda, 250 gig Kingston SSD / 120 gig PNY SSD, 1TB WD Blue, 1TB Samsung HDD (not plugged in) PSU some chinese dumpster fire / 500W Silverstone Cooling intelstock heatsink / Coolermaster thing thats worse than intelstock Keyboard Asus Cerberus Mouse Logitech G300s Sound Creative Inspire T6300 5.1 Surround Speakers, Turtle Beach Earforce X12 Operating System Windows 10, wInDOwS 10 Laptop Surface Pro the Fourth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted July 29, 2020 5 minutes ago, VestiaryFlea867 said: Aren't 2070's also $400? (at least at my area). I'd rather get a 2070. BTW I already had parts picked out. I mean, if you can get a 2070 for the same price, sure. It's like 5% faster or something like that on average. Oh. Desktop: Intel Core i9-9900K | ASUS Strix Z390-F | G.Skill Trident Z Neo 2x16GB @ 3200MHz CL14 | EVGA GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER XC Ultra | Corsair RM650x | Fractal Design Define R6 Laptop: 2018 Apple MacBook Pro 13" -- i5-8259U | 8GB LPDDR3 | 512GB NVMe Peripherals: Leopold FC660C w/ Topre Silent 45g | Logitech MX Master 3 & Razer Basilisk X HyperSpeed | HIFIMAN HE400se & iFi ZEN DAC | Audio-Technica AT2020USB+ Display: Gigabyte G34WQC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted July 29, 2020 I'd strongly suggest waiting for the 3060. It'll have substantially better RTX performance. If you can add in your own money so you don't feel guilty, the 3070 would also be a superb choice. CPU: Ryzen 9 5900 Cooler: EVGA CLC280 Motherboard: Gigabyte B550i Pro AX RAM: Kingston Hyper X 32GB 3200mhz Storage: WD 750 SE 500GB, WD 730 SE 1TB GPU: EVGA RTX 3070 Ti PSU: Corsair SF750 Case: Streacom DA2 Monitor: LG 27GL83B Mouse: Razer Basilisk V2 Keyboard: G.Skill KM780 Cherry MX Red Speakers: Mackie CR5BT MiniPC - Sold for $100 Profit Spoiler CPU: Intel i3 4160 Cooler: Integrated Motherboard: Integrated RAM: G.Skill RipJaws 16GB DDR3 Storage: Transcend MSA370 128GB GPU: Intel 4400 Graphics PSU: Integrated Case: Shuttle XPC Slim Monitor: LG 29WK500 Mouse: G.Skill MX780 Keyboard: G.Skill KM780 Cherry MX Red Budget Rig 1 - Sold For $750 Profit Spoiler CPU: Intel i5 7600k Cooler: CryOrig H7 Motherboard: MSI Z270 M5 RAM: Crucial LPX 16GB DDR4 Storage: Intel S3510 800GB GPU: Nvidia GTX 980 PSU: Corsair CX650M Case: EVGA DG73 Monitor: LG 29WK500 Mouse: G.Skill MX780 Keyboard: G.Skill KM780 Cherry MX Red OG Gaming Rig - Gone Spoiler CPU: Intel i5 4690k Cooler: Corsair H100i V2 Motherboard: MSI Z97i AC ITX RAM: Crucial Ballistix 16GB DDR3 Storage: Kingston Fury 240GB GPU: Asus Strix GTX 970 PSU: Thermaltake TR2 Case: Phanteks Enthoo Evolv ITX Monitor: Dell P2214H x2 Mouse: Logitech MX Master Keyboard: G.Skill KM780 Cherry MX Red Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted July 29, 2020 Author 11 minutes ago, dizmo said: I'd strongly suggest waiting for the 3060. It'll have substantially better RTX performance. If you can add in your own money so you don't feel guilty, the 3070 would also be a superb choice. I *would* but this is an "emergency" PC. I as thinking to buy the GPU last and put in my own money and use a used GPU or one I already have in the meantime. System CPU Intel i5-3470 / Core 2 Quad Q6600 Motherboard some piece of trash / other piece of garbage RAM 8 gigs of Ripjaws X DDR3-2666 / 7 GB of DDR2 stuff GPU none. / XFX R9-280X Case some Dell thing / another HP case Storage 500 gig Seagate Barracuda, 250 gig Kingston SSD / 120 gig PNY SSD, 1TB WD Blue, 1TB Samsung HDD (not plugged in) PSU some chinese dumpster fire / 500W Silverstone Cooling intelstock heatsink / Coolermaster thing thats worse than intelstock Keyboard Asus Cerberus Mouse Logitech G300s Sound Creative Inspire T6300 5.1 Surround Speakers, Turtle Beach Earforce X12 Operating System Windows 10, wInDOwS 10 Laptop Surface Pro the Fourth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted July 29, 2020 The 'Super' variants are 10% faster? It seems like nVidia improved their GPU wafer process, and now call it the RTX 'Super.' I'm seeing the cheapest RTX 2070 Super being $499... Intel Z390 Rig ( *NEW* Primary ) Intel X99 Rig (Officially Decommissioned, Dead CPU returned to Intel) i7-8086K @ 5.1 GHz Gigabyte Z390 Aorus Master Sapphire NITRO+ RX 6800 XT S.E + EKwb Quantum Vector Full Cover Waterblock 32GB G.Skill TridentZ DDR4-3000 CL14 @ DDR-3400 custom CL15 timings SanDisk 480 GB SSD + 1TB Samsung 860 EVO + 500GB Samsung 980 + 1TB WD SN750 EVGA SuperNOVA 850W P2 + Red/White CableMod Cables Lian-Li O11 Dynamic EVO XL Ekwb Custom loop + 2x EKwb Quantum Surface P360M Radiators Logitech G502 Proteus Spectrum + Corsair K70 (Red LED, anodized black, Cheery MX Browns) AMD Ryzen Rig AMD R7-5800X Gigabyte B550 Aorus Pro AC 32GB (16GB X 2) Crucial Ballistix RGB DDR4-3600 Gigabyte Vision RTX 3060 Ti OC EKwb D-RGB 360mm AIO Intel 660p NVMe 1TB + Crucial MX500 1TB + WD Black 1TB HDD EVGA P2 850W + White CableMod cables Lian-Li LanCool II Mesh - White Intel Z97 Rig (Decomissioned) Intel i5-4690K @ 4.8 GHz ASUS ROG Maximus VII Hero Z97 Sapphire Vapor-X HD 7950 EVGA GTX 1070 SC Black Edition ACX 3.0 20 GB (8GB X 2 + 4GB X 1) Corsair Vengeance DDR3 1600 MHz Corsair A50 air cooler NZXT X61 Crucial MX500 1TB SSD + SanDisk Ultra II 240GB SSD + WD Caviar Black 1TB HDD + Kingston V300 120GB SSD [non-gimped version] Antec New TruePower 550W EVGA G2 650W + White CableMod cables Cooler Master HAF 912 White NZXT S340 Elite w/ white LED stips AMD 990FX Rig (Decommissioned) FX-8350 @ 4.8 / 4.9 GHz (given up on the 5.0 / 5.1 GHz attempt) ASUS ROG Crosshair V Formula 990FX 12 GB (4 GB X 3) G.Skill RipJawsX DDR3 @ 1866 MHz Sapphire Vapor-X HD 7970 + Sapphire Dual-X HD 7970 in Crossfire Sapphire NITRO R9-Fury in Crossfire *NONE* Thermaltake Frio w/ Cooler Master JetFlo's in push-pull Samsung 850 EVO 500GB SSD + Kingston V300 120GB SSD + WD Caviar Black 1TB HDD Corsair TX850 (ver.1) Cooler Master HAF 932 <> Electrical Engineer , B.Eng <> <> Electronics & Computer Engineering Technologist (Diploma + Advanced Diploma) <> <> Electronics Engineering Technician for the Canadian Department of National Defence <> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted July 29, 2020 Author 10 minutes ago, -rascal- said: The 'Super' variants are 10% faster? It seems like nVidia improved their GPU wafer process, and now call it the RTX 'Super.' I'm seeing the cheapest RTX 2070 Super being $499... Is 10% worth $100 over a regular 2070? System CPU Intel i5-3470 / Core 2 Quad Q6600 Motherboard some piece of trash / other piece of garbage RAM 8 gigs of Ripjaws X DDR3-2666 / 7 GB of DDR2 stuff GPU none. / XFX R9-280X Case some Dell thing / another HP case Storage 500 gig Seagate Barracuda, 250 gig Kingston SSD / 120 gig PNY SSD, 1TB WD Blue, 1TB Samsung HDD (not plugged in) PSU some chinese dumpster fire / 500W Silverstone Cooling intelstock heatsink / Coolermaster thing thats worse than intelstock Keyboard Asus Cerberus Mouse Logitech G300s Sound Creative Inspire T6300 5.1 Surround Speakers, Turtle Beach Earforce X12 Operating System Windows 10, wInDOwS 10 Laptop Surface Pro the Fourth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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