X570 or B550 Mobo recommendations for first build -- plan to upgrade later

[haopmanee92623]

I am doing a first build in an NZXT H510. For now I have a Ryzen 5 3600 but am planning to upgrade to the 4000-series processors or an 8-core one like the 3700X. I don't think I will be overclocking. I will be paring the processor with a Crucial Ballistix 16gb 3600MHz CL16 ram.

The motherboard needs to have:

• internal USB-C 3.1 connector that the case has

• enough case fan headers as I am intending to have 3-4 case fans

• m.2 slot

• and preferably built-in Bluetooth

Of course the cheaper it is, the more I can spend on graphics card and games, but also I want a good enough board to last and have nice features. I am flexible with size, but the case can take ATX, so that is also preferable to take full advantage of the case. Any recommendations?

 

Edit: changed to default font color

Edited July 24, 2020 by haopmanee92623

[Mister Woof]

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I am doing a first build in an NZXT H510. For now I have a Ryzen 5 3600 but am planning to upgrade to the 4000-series processors or an 8-core one like the 3700X. I don't think I will be overclocking. I will be paring the processor with a Crucial Ballistix 16gb 3600MHz CL16 ram.

The motherboard needs to have:

• internal USB-C 3.1 connector that the case has

• enough case fan headers as I am intending to have 3-4 case fans

• m.2 slot

• and preferably built-in Bluetooth

Of course the cheaper it is, the more I can spend on graphics card and games, but also I want a good enough board to last and have nice features. I am flexible with size, but the case can take ATX, so that is also preferable to take full advantage of the case. Any recommendations?

 

For those of us on dark mode, remove formatting next time.

 

Check the sticky for motherboards.

[Haro]

first of all please type this in white, for users with black theme, it's barely visible, second of all. budget? 

10 hours ago, haopmanee92623 said:

NZXT H510

dont get it, terrible airflow, a meshify c or a p400a are a lot better.   

[Mister Woof]

4 minutes ago, TofuHaroto said:

first of all please type this in white, for users with black theme, it's barely visible, second of all. budget? 

dont get it, terrible airflow, a meshify c or a p400a are a lot better.   

It looks better.

 

I have the predecessor, the S340, and even with a hefty OC and a hot and hungry card, it's fine.

[Haro]

10 hours ago, Mister Woof said:

the S340, and even with a hefty OC and a hot and hungry card, it's fine.

im not sure about the s340, but the h510 certainly lacks good airflow, it's not bad but compared to things like the p400a or the mesh c or the lan cool mesh 2, it's disappointing sadly.

[Mateyyy]

Yeah please use the default text colour.

What's your budget for the board?

[Mister Woof]

2 minutes ago, TofuHaroto said:

im not sure about the s340, but the h510 certainly lacks good airflow, it's not bad but compared to things like the p400a or the mesh c or the lan cool mesh 2, it's disappointing sadly.

Same thing, slight updates.

 

It is not an amazing airflow case, never was, never will be. But it's pretty and for the most part it works.

[haopmanee92623]

1 minute ago, Mister Woof said:

It looks better.

Exactly. But also it is a bit cheaper at around 75bucks, but does it have air filters? because I like the meshify c mini, and it has air filters.

[haopmanee92623]

5 minutes ago, Mateyyy said:

Yeah please use the default text colour.

What's your budget for the board?

Around 100-200. but yeah the cheaper, the more I can spend on a graphics card upgrade

[Mister Woof]

1 minute ago, haopmanee92623 said:

Exactly. But also it is a bit cheaper at around 75bucks, but does it have air filters? because I like the meshify c mini, and it has air filters.

The S340 has air filters; I presume the H510 does as well since its a later iteration.

 

Of course appearance is subjective. I don't really like the ventilated front cases, despite knowing they are better.

[haopmanee92623]

17 minutes ago, Mister Woof said:

For those of us on dark mode, remove formatting next time.

edited! thanks for the tip

 

17 minutes ago, Mister Woof said:

Check the sticky for motherboards.

Where is that?

[Mister Woof]

1 minute ago, haopmanee92623 said:

edited! thanks for the tip

 

Where is that?

First thread in this forum

 

[haopmanee92623]

3 minutes ago, Mister Woof said:

First thread in this forum

 

Wow, those are a lot of motherboards. Which tier should I be looking at? what tier is a 100-200bucks mobo ?

[Mister Woof]

5 minutes ago, haopmanee92623 said:

Wow, those are a lot of motherboards. Which tier should I be looking at? what tier is a 100-200bucks mobo ?

Yeah, it's a lot.

 

I have personal experience with the ASUS X570 TUF Gaming Plus, which is in this range. I think anything in this range in the $150-200 range would do well for you and any foreseeable 4th gen CPU (well the 500 series anyway)

 

 

Tier A: 200A current draw on little ambient airflow, maxed out 3950X on ambient cooling, 2700x on LN2

Asus: X570 X570-F, TUF Plus, Prime Pro, Crosshair VIII Impact, X570-I, X570-P, B550 TUF Plus (mATX & mATX WiFi), X470 Crosshair VII Hero, X370 Crosshair VI Extreme

Asrock: X570 ITX/TB3, X470 Taichi (Ultimate), X370 Taichi, Professional Gaming

Gigabyte: X570 Aorus Ultra, Pro (ATX), B550 Aorus Pro (& AC) (ATX), X470 Gaming 7

MSI: X470 M7 AC, B550 Mortar

 

$169 for the TUF B550-Plus, which is a Tier A up to 3950x motherboard.

https://www.amazon.com/ASUS-TUF-B550-PLUS-Motherboard-Addressable/dp/B088W57M4J

 

 

[Mateyyy]

38 minutes ago, haopmanee92623 said:

Around 100-200. but yeah the cheaper, the more I can spend on a graphics card upgrade

B550 Gaming Edge WIFI seems to fit all your needs, though it's around $180. The B550 Aorus Pro AC is around the same price and has an arguably better rear IO, but lacks the internal Type-C connector.

I'm not sure whether ASUS' TUF B550-Plus WIFI has a Type-C connector, but that's around $160.

 

The cheapest option would probably be getting a B550-A Pro and adding in a PCIe WIFI card.

[Mister Woof]

Just now, Mateyyy said:

B550 Gaming Edge WIFI seems to fit all your needs, though it's around $180. The B550 Aorus Pro AC is around the same price and has a better rear IO, but lacks the internal Type-C connector.

I'm not sure whether ASUS' TUF B550-Plus WIFI has a Type-C connector, but that's around $160.

 

The cheapest option would probably be getting a B550-A Pro and adding in a PCIe WIFI card.

Looks like it does:

 

https://www.amazon.com/ASUS-TUF-B550-PLUS-Motherboard-Addressable/dp/B088W57M4J

 

https://www.asus.com/us/Motherboards/TUF-GAMING-B550-PLUS/

 

Rear USB Port ( Total 8 )
2 x USB 3.2 Gen 2 port(s)(1 x Type-A +1 x USB Type-C^®)
4 x USB 3.2 Gen 1 port(s)( x Type-A)
2 x USB 2.0 port(s)( x Type-A)
Front USB Port ( Total 6 )
2 x USB 3.2 Gen 1 port(s)(2 x Type-A)
4 x USB 2.0 port(s)(4 x Type-A)

 

Best Gaming Connectivity: Supports HDMI 2. 1 (4K@60HZ) and DisplayPort 1. 2 output, featuring dual M. 2 slots (NVMe SSD)—one with PCIe 4. 0 x4 connectivity, front panel USB 3. 2 Gen 1 connector, USB 3. 2 Gen 2 Type-C & Type-A ports and Thunderbolt 3 header, 1 x SPI TPM header

[Mateyyy]

17 minutes ago, Mister Woof said:

Looks like it does:

 

https://www.amazon.com/ASUS-TUF-B550-PLUS-Motherboard-Addressable/dp/B088W57M4J

 

https://www.asus.com/us/Motherboards/TUF-GAMING-B550-PLUS/

 

Rear USB Port ( Total 8 )
2 x USB 3.2 Gen 2 port(s)(1 x Type-A +1 x USB Type-C^®)
4 x USB 3.2 Gen 1 port(s)( x Type-A)
2 x USB 2.0 port(s)( x Type-A)
Front USB Port ( Total 6 )
2 x USB 3.2 Gen 1 port(s)(2 x Type-A)
4 x USB 2.0 port(s)(4 x Type-A)

 

Best Gaming Connectivity: Supports HDMI 2. 1 (4K@60HZ) and DisplayPort 1. 2 output, featuring dual M. 2 slots (NVMe SSD)—one with PCIe 4. 0 x4 connectivity, front panel USB 3. 2 Gen 1 connector, USB 3. 2 Gen 2 Type-C & Type-A ports and Thunderbolt 3 header, 1 x SPI TPM header

I think OP's looking for this header:

It doesn't seem to be present on the TUF unfortunately.

[haopmanee92623]

21 minutes ago, Mister Woof said:

Looks like it does:

 

https://www.amazon.com/ASUS-TUF-B550-PLUS-Motherboard-Addressable/dp/B088W57M4J

 

https://www.asus.com/us/Motherboards/TUF-GAMING-B550-PLUS/

 

Rear USB Port ( Total 8 )
2 x USB 3.2 Gen 2 port(s)(1 x Type-A +1 x USB Type-C^®)
4 x USB 3.2 Gen 1 port(s)( x Type-A)
2 x USB 2.0 port(s)( x Type-A)
Front USB Port ( Total 6 )
2 x USB 3.2 Gen 1 port(s)(2 x Type-A)
4 x USB 2.0 port(s)(4 x Type-A)

 

Best Gaming Connectivity: Supports HDMI 2. 1 (4K@60HZ) and DisplayPort 1. 2 output, featuring dual M. 2 slots (NVMe SSD)—one with PCIe 4. 0 x4 connectivity, front panel USB 3. 2 Gen 1 connector, USB 3. 2 Gen 2 Type-C & Type-A ports and Thunderbolt 3 header, 1 x SPI TPM header

it doesn't right? Doesn't the internal front usb C connector look something like this?

[Mister Woof]

Just now, haopmanee92623 said:

it doesn't right? Doesn't the internal front usb C connector look something like this?

not sure, was just going by the specifications list

[haopmanee92623]

1 minute ago, Mateyyy said:

I think OP's looking for this header:

It doesn't seem to be present on the TUF unfortunately.

yes. If i go for the NZXT it would be a waste not to have the connector

[Mateyyy]

5 minutes ago, haopmanee92623 said:

yes. If i go for the NZXT it would be a waste not to have the connector

Yeah fair enough, unless they include an adapter with the case so you can plug it into the regular 3.0 connector, but I'm not aware whether they do or not.

In that case, my pick would be the B550 Gaming Edge WIFI.

[haopmanee92623]

2 minutes ago, Mateyyy said:

Yeah fair enough, unless they include an adapter with the case so you can plug it into the regular 3.0 connector, but I'm not aware whether they do or not.

In that case, my pick would be the B550 Gaming Edge WIFI.

Good point, there are also converters for it sold if they don't include it

[haopmanee92623]

It took me a long time to decide the case, but now I am considering to just go for the meshify c.

meshify c has better air flow but is kinda ugly and a bit bigger.

h510 looks really nice but has less air flow. It would also have better acoustics because it is closed, right?

 

any other aspect that I am not considering?

 

[Mister Woof]

37 minutes ago, haopmanee92623 said:

It took me a long time to decide the case, but now I am considering to just go for the meshify c.

meshify c has better air flow but is kinda ugly and a bit bigger.

h510 looks really nice but has less air flow. It would also have better acoustics because it is closed, right?

 

any other aspect that I am not considering?

 

In my experience the ventilated front cases tend to get dusty and ugly fast. So invest in a lot of canned air or whatever method you use to clean, and do it reguarly.

 

And if it's not getting dirty up front, then it's not filtering and it's getting all dirty inside.

 

Half the reason I like the S340/H510 is that the front is flat, and the filter is behind it. Not as much airflow, but effectively hides dust and dirty portion.

[Bazrat]

I have an h500 with an overclocked 2700x, gtx1080 and rx570 (for virtual machines), system never throttles or anything of the sort, playing some heavy titles under 100% load my 1080 will hit 79-80 but that's it, don't do anything heavy on the rx570 but it idles at 40C. CPU barely goes past 65C under full load (I do have a bit of a beefy cooler). Dust is really the only "problem", gets a bit more dust build up than other cases but its not like a daily clean, I personally do it every 1-2 months (should do it more ) and its pretty easy to clean the front filters anyways, but cleaning more always helps lol. Terms of noise on idle my system is dead silent and under full load it's audible but nothing like a turbine engine, I'd assume would be similar to most cases anyway.