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39 minutes ago, SooWhat said:

I meant with a higher end GPU so the GPU wouldn't bottleneck the CPU's (I checked multiple sources)

so what GPU did you check with? Dont tell me you just quote their conclusions

 

39 minutes ago, SooWhat said:

What if I DON'T have unlimited GPU power that I wont be upgrading any time soon?

How long do you want this system to last (i.e. operable) and stay relevant (i.e. fast enough)?

 

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Also I initially asked about mobos. IF I were to buy the i3 10100, what would be the optimal mobo?

H410 and B460 only differ in feature set, which depends on what you need and want (also different boards carrying the same chipset vary on stuff they carry) so they are listed clear on webpages, largely subjective and not much I could add to it. They all have enough power delivery for something like a locked i3.

What is the difference between intel H series (H410) and B series (B460)?

Is a 20€ price difference justified if im on a tight budget and I will be getting the i3 10100?

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The chipset features are near identical, in general you will find better power delivery on B series boards than the H410 series so higher core count CPUs will perform better. 

 

 

If you're on a tight budget, consider AMD Ryzen. What country?

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Just now, SooWhat said:

What is the difference between intel H series (H410) and B series (B460)?

Is a 20€ price difference justified if im on a tight budget and I will be getting the i3 10100?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGA_1200

H410 limitation: up to 2 DIMMs for memory, less USB and PCIe stuff.

 

Although a 3100 and a cheap B450 would be an alternative.

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3 minutes ago, SooWhat said:

and I will be getting the i3 10100?

They're not a good budget friendly option. 

Get a 3300x and a b450 pro 4 and that will be a whole lot better and you'll have the option for  upgradability later down the line. 

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7 minutes ago, Fasauceome said:

The chipset features are near identical, in general you will find better power delivery on B series boards than the H410 series so higher core count CPUs will perform better. 

 

 

If you're on a tight budget, consider AMD Ryzen. What country?

I have considered AMD for quite some time, but i kept looking at the prices and the performance differences and Intel just makes more sense to me. The overall package (cpu+mobo) is cheaper than a 3300x + b450 combo, let alone a 3600 + expensive b450 mobo that another person commented (strict budget as i said). The fps difference is negligible between the 2 cpus, so for me it just comes down to the price and intel is just cheaper (160€ vs 130€).

 

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what GPU will you roll with it? Or just the iGPU?

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1 minute ago, Jurrunio said:

what GPU will you roll with it? Or just the iGPU?

rx 580

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10 minutes ago, SooWhat said:

The fps difference is negligible between the 2 cpus

that's because of the RX580 then. Unlimited GPU power, 3300x will be faster which means it will stay fast enough for longer, holding more GPU upgrades over time. More times you swap out stuff = more money wasted.

 

Key here is that if you dont use Z490 on Intel, you dont get to run memory at higher frequencies which limits frame rate potential. This will be more and more prominent as newer hardware with faster memory speeds come (hence software optimization cares less about low memory speed performance)

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2 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

that's because of the RX580 then. Unlimited GPU power

I can't quite understand this.

What if I DON'T have unlimited GPU power that I wont be upgrading any time soon? Shouldn't I just go with what fits the budget better, right? Especially when there is actually an unnoticable fps difference even after upgrading the GPU aswell.

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The fps difference is negligible between the 2 cpus

I meant with a higher end GPU so the GPU wouldn't bottleneck the CPU's (I checked multiple sources)

Also I initially asked about mobos. IF I were to buy the i3 10100, what would be the optimal mobo?

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12 minutes ago, SooWhat said:

What if I DON'T have unlimited GPU

If you need an i-gpu then sure. Go for the 10100 ( even tho it's still bad value ) but since your paring the cpu with a dgpu. 

Get a 3300x. It's better value. Cheaper platform. And you won't have to deal with H and B series boards from Intel side if thing. 

Tldr if your on a budget. Don't even consider Intel. 

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39 minutes ago, SooWhat said:

I meant with a higher end GPU so the GPU wouldn't bottleneck the CPU's (I checked multiple sources)

so what GPU did you check with? Dont tell me you just quote their conclusions

 

39 minutes ago, SooWhat said:

What if I DON'T have unlimited GPU power that I wont be upgrading any time soon?

How long do you want this system to last (i.e. operable) and stay relevant (i.e. fast enough)?

 

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Also I initially asked about mobos. IF I were to buy the i3 10100, what would be the optimal mobo?

H410 and B460 only differ in feature set, which depends on what you need and want (also different boards carrying the same chipset vary on stuff they carry) so they are listed clear on webpages, largely subjective and not much I could add to it. They all have enough power delivery for something like a locked i3.

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

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what is the meaning of vdh, s2h, d2v,ds3h,m,k ,a and more on to motherborad's suffix 

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18 minutes ago, iap said:

what is the meaning of vdh, s2h, d2v,ds3h,m,k ,a and more on to motherborad's suffix 

The M often signifies that the motherboard is mATX, a smaller version of the ATX standard. Some boards have both an M and non-M version, and those are different sizes. You'll also see I (i) which stands for ITX - another form factor.

 

The rest are basically just branding. I'm sure some of them mean something to someone, but you're better off thinking of it as just the name of the board. For example, the MSI B560-A Pro is often called the "A Pro" for short. That's its name. The A doesn't really mean anything beyond that.

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