No beeps, no signal, I have breadboarded

[MrVic87]

I built a pc for the first time about a month ago. At the time it had the following specs:

 

AMD FX6350 3.9Ghz

GA-970A-UD3P mobo

Gigabyte GT 630 2gb graphics card (overclocked to 795ghz)

Crucial Ballistics Sport Memory 4gb (2x2gb) on dual channel

Corsair 500w modular psu

Seagate 500gb HDD

HP CD/DVD RW ODD

1080p Vizio HDTV or a regular 17" monitor (as a backup)

Zalman Z9 case

 

The pc was working beautifully. I was playing videos, played a few games, and optimize settings for most of them, until I came across Battlefield 4. I could not optimize the settings for tha game. So I decided to upgrade my card to an EVGA GTX760. Prior to installing the card, I uninstalled the display drivers for the GT630. Once I installed GTX760 and powered up, a message appeared on the monitor that said "Please connect the PCI connectors that came with your card." I did plug the 8 pin to PCI, but not the 6 pin. So I plugged the 6 pin, which has a molex end, to other molex fans (wrong move I know), to the Corsair psu. Powered up, and a smell like something was fried happened. I turned off the system immediately, waited about an hour then powered up, everything was working (fans, lights, etc) but no signal or display. Powered down, turned it on again, till it could not power on anymore. I believed my psu was fried. 

 

I went to pc store to pick up a new mobo (same as above), aftermarket cooling (Zalman cnps9900 MAX), case, and a new psu (EVGA Bronze+ 600w). Installed everything with the correct connections, powered on, and yet no signal no beeps. Fans, lights, ODD and HDD appeared to be working, mobo was getting power. But nothing. So I went to Toms hardware to get some answers. I breadboarded, using both graphics cards, and yet no change. I disassembled my system and started completely over. Installed everything back in, and again, no beeps, no signal. I tried it on my monitor/TV using VGA cables with GT630, nothing. Tried HDMI with TV, nothing. Tried HDMI and VGA with DVI adapter to GTX760 (doesn't have a VGA port), nothing. I just don't have a clue as to why I am not getting any response with my system. I had enough parts to rebuild an older system (not with any of the components to new system) and when I powered that on using monitor and VGA cable, it worked! I got the beeps, BIOS, and everything. That gave me hope that I knew what I was doing. But my new system, no luck.

 

I came across this site watching one of the Youtube videos on pcs in the hope that someone out there can help or give me advice on what to do next. I am guessing I ruined my CPU chip since that's the only part I have not replaced, but yet I don't know. I know the GT630 card works, but have not confirmed if the GTX 760 works, only by the fans working when I power up.

 

Final build as of this thread:

 

AMD FX6350 3.9Ghz

GA-970A-UD3P mobo

EVGA GTX760 2gb graphics card

Zalman CNPS9900 MAX cooler (aluminum)

Crucial Ballistics Sport Memory 4gb (2x2gb) on dual channel

EVGA Bronze+ 600w psu

Seagate 500gb HDD

HP CD/DVD RW ODD

1080p Vizio HDTV or a regular 17" monitor (as a backup)

CoolerMaster HAF 912

 

Anyone with feedback would be greatly appreciated. 

[MrVic87]

Anyone?? :unsure:

[Jaybird]

hhmmm. there seems to be words on this page. 

 

 

Not sure. looks like you might be boned. the text was a bit difficult of understand. 

[MrVic87]

hhmmm. there seems to be words on this page. 

 

 

Not sure. looks like you might be boned. the text was a bit difficult of understand. 

Which parts are confusing? I want to help make it clear in any way I can.

[Jaybird]

Which parts are confusing? I want to help make it clear in any way I can.

 

 

a message appeared on the screen that said "Please connect the PCI connectors that came with your card" I did plug the 8 pin to PCI, but not the 6 pin. So I plugged the 6 pin, which has a molex end, to other molex fans

pictures would help. 

[juretrn]

Obviously the board doesn't POST, try asking at a PC shop if they lend you a fitting CPU. 

 

But I have a similar problem as @Jaybird, don't know what you mean by that. 

[brob]

For future reference, deleting drivers is not the way to do things. One must uninstall the entire set. Simplest way of doing this is using Windows Add/Remove Programs (Program Features).

 

Do I understand correctly that every hardware component is new?

[MrVic87]

pictures would help. 

At the time, I didn't get to take a snap shot of that. When I first installed the GTX 760, and powered up the system, that messaged appeared on my monitor. Instead of the normal system start up. 

 

"Please connect the PCI connector that came with the card" 

 

I didn't have the 6pin connected to the gtx760 when that occured. That was the only time it popped up. 

[Jaybird]

is this you?

 

 

Source:http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf4/forum/threadview/2955065225448374828/

[Jaybird]

At the time, I didn't get to take a snap shot of that. When I first installed the GTX 760, and powered up the system, that messaged appeared on my monitor. Instead of the normal system start up. 

 

"Please connect the PCI connector that came with the card" 

 

I didn't have the 6pin connected to the gtx760 when that occured. That was the only time it popped up. 

we dont much care about the text your monitor is displaying. we want to see the pictures of these pci connectors. or pictures of your rig. anything that is or will be help ful to use dignosing your situation. 

 

Edit: you card should have only in the box: a card, warrenty and installation papers, driver disk, a case badge, foam, and cardboard. 

[ross06187]

@MrVic87 welcome to the forum

 

is this computer not posting right now?  ie does it boot.

 

if not

 

try with no gpu and 1 ram stick. no graphics card

 

pretty much follow these steps and report back

http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/42440-readme-how-to-respond-to-a-no-post-or-no-power-up-situation/

Edited February 26, 2014 by ross06187

[MrVic87]

Obviously the board doesn't POST, try asking at a PC shop if they lend you a fitting CPU. 

 

But I have a similar problem as @Jaybird, don't know what you mean by that. 

 

I exchanged the board for a newer one, but I truly hope you're right. I plan on taking it back and get a ASRock 990 FX or a Gigabyte GA990FXA-UD3 Friday. I just wanted to get any input from this community before I did.

 

 

For future reference, deleting drivers is not the way to do things. One must uninstall the entire set. Simplest way of doing this is using Windows Add/Remove Programs (Program Features).

 

Do I understand correctly that every hardware component is new?

 

I did it by following a youtube vid from a poster that seemed to know what he was doing. I did it by Control Panel>System>Device Manager>Display adapters>Right click and uninstalled. 

 

And yes every hardware is new, with my cpu chip being about a month old

[Tripod]

well you said you had a bunch of old parts just use the process of elimination and swap out part one by one.And try the old video card.

[MrVic87]

we dont much care about the text your monitor is displaying. we want to see the pictures of these pci connectors. or pictures of your rig. anything that is or will be help ful to use dignosing your situation. 

 

Edit: you card should have only in the box: a card, warrenty and installation papers, driver disk, a case badge, foam, and cardboard. 

Ok, that I can do. I can supply pictures when I get home. I didn't know you can upload any on here. And yes that is me. I've asked for help there, tom's hardware, and now here, looking for answers before I spend any more money that I don't really need to. 

 

I was only being as detailed as possible instead of having anyone ask me questions I can easily answer. 

[MrVic87]

well you said you had a bunch of old parts just use the process of elimination and swap out part one by one.And try the old video card.

I had an old system I took apart prior to building my rig. I rebuilt it more so out of confidence and being precise in what I was doing. But the parts im having problems with are all new parts.

[MrVic87]

@MrVic87 welcome to the forum

 

is this computer not posting right now?  ie does it boot.

 

if not

 

try with no gpu and 1 ram stick. no graphics card

 

pretty much follow these steps and report back

http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/42440-readme-how-to-respond-to-a-no-post-or-no-power-up-situation/

Ross thank you!

 

I think thats what's called breadboarding? I did exactly that, I used one stick for each slot, then two, then no gpu installed. I tried everything from a similar check list you linked. I read that prior to posting on here.  It does not boot at all. No beeps. No signal.

[Tripod]

okay take it out of the case, all of it! get your motherboard on a non conductive surface connect Cpu, hard drive, 1 ram stick, PSU if you don't have internal graphics also plug in GPU, then power it on.

you said you got a new psu and motherboard so the other suspects are cpu, and hardrive. can't be ram because you have two sticks i believe and tested each on separately  and the chance of them both failing isn't too likely.

 

My theory is that you might have fried your old motherboard along with cpu, either with static from your body (it happens) or the six pin you forgot to plug in touched something just a maybe.

 

i would find someone with a spare cpu just to test or buy an inexpensive one and abuse the return policy,

 

also let's not act like you might have not fried the gpu (or it was defected) either BUT if your motherboard has internal graphics you can rule that out so you can test without gpu the better.

because in reality rig was working fine you put it new gpu rig no longer work

 

ALSO i am not saying it's the gpu just possibility.

 

actually i looked it up it doesn't have onboard video, so you have three suspects cpu,gpu,hdd

 

what happened to your old GPU?

[JohnnyGrey]

ALSO i am not saying it's the gpu just possibility.

 

He tried with both GPU's, and neither would post.

 

Try disconnecting everything, just leave one stick of RAM, the CPU, and the GPU connected.

 

You didn't try plugging in the 6 pin while the computer was on, did you? Just making sure.

[JohnnyGrey]

Also make sure to disconnect the fans that you had plugged into the molex. Maybe one of those burned and shorted out.

[ross06187]

Ross thank you!

 

I think thats what's called breadboarding? I did exactly that, I used one stick for each slot, then two, then no gpu installed. I tried everything from a similar check list you linked. I read that prior to posting on here.  It does not boot at all. No beeps. No signal.

 

its ether the board or the cpu then unless all your ram is bad.  to be safe do a power supply test

 

 

i tough you had on board graphics, if not then you could have fries the gpu, but probably no the new and the old so thats less likely

Edited February 26, 2014 by ross06187

[MrVic87]

OK here are my pictures. I am uploading from my tablet. Forgive my cable management.

[MrVic87]

okay take it out of the case, all of it! get your motherboard on a non conductive surface connect Cpu, hard drive, 1 ram stick, PSU if you don't have internal graphics also plug in GPU, then power it on.

you said you got a new psu and motherboard so the other suspects are cpu, and hardrive. can't be ram because you have two sticks i believe and tested each on separately and the chance of them both failing isn't too likely.

My theory is that you might have fried your old motherboard along with cpu, either with static from your body (it happens) or the six pin you forgot to plug in touched something just a maybe.

i would find someone with a spare cpu just to test or buy an inexpensive one and abuse the return policy,

also let's not act like you might have not fried the gpu (or it was defected) either BUT if your motherboard has internal graphics you can rule that out so you can test without gpu the better.

because in reality rig was working fine you put it new gpu rig no longer work

ALSO i am not saying it's the gpu just possibility.

actually i looked it up it doesn't have onboard video, so you have three suspects cpu,gpu,hdd

what happened to your old GPU?

I will try your method. No it doesn't have on board graphics. I used my old gpu and same problem. And Im not too sure if the gtx760 fully functions like it should. I did use a wrist strap before i touched anything.

Im slowly coming to grips that the chip may have fried with the motherboard as well. That and the sticks are the only parts that i havent replaced.

He tried with both GPU's, and neither would post.

Try disconnecting everything, just leave one stick of RAM, the CPU, and the GPU connected.

You didn't try plugging in the 6 pin while the computer was on, did you? Just making sure.

I already tried tried this as well. And no I wouldn't dare plug anything while the PC is on.

its ether the board or the cpu then unless all your ram is bad. to be safe do a power supply test

i tough you had on board graphics, if not then you could have fries the gpu, but probably no the new and the old so thats less likely

I hope it isn't the new GPU. The fried smell happened when I connected the 6pin molex with the two system fans with a molex ends and not directly to the psu. That lead to my old corsair dying on me.

[brob]

I exchanged the board for a newer one, but I truly hope you're right. I plan on taking it back and get a ASRock 990 FX or a Gigabyte GA990FXA-UD3 Friday. I just wanted to get any input from this community before I did.

 

 

 

I did it by following a youtube vid from a poster that seemed to know what he was doing. I did it by Control Panel>System>Device Manager>Display adapters>Right click and uninstalled. 

 

And yes every hardware is new, with my cpu chip being about a month old

 

Youtube is a great resource but it is always a good idea to get confirmation from multiple sources. I usually start with the manufacturer's web site. http://www.nvidia.com/object/IO_13955.html

 

The problem with using Device Manager to uninstall drivers is that it only uninstalls the actual driver files. It does not necessarily uninstall everything that was installed, registry entries for example.

 

Are there any status led on the motherboard? If so, with nothing installed on the board and just the two power lines connected does any led light when the psu switch on the back of the unit is turned on?

[ross06187]

OK here are my pictures. I am uploading from my tablet. Forgive my cable management.

 

From the pictures it looks like you have only plugged in one molex connectors in the 2 molex to pce power adapter on the gpu.  both are need to get full 4 phase power to the graphics card.

[LogicalDrm]

OK here are my pictures. I am uploading from my tablet. Forgive my cable management.

 

On third last pic it looks like one of the PCIe power connectors has two plugs. Like it should. So be sure that both PCIe powercables you connect say that they are for GPU. So remove the braided one and use another end of cable next to it. Also if your PSU is modular, make sure that you connect right connectors into PSU and not use those ends on components.