Official Ryzen 5, 7 and 9 XT variants specs released to the public and release date

[porina]

4 hours ago, Shimejii said:

People wont be paying for All core at all lol. I can already OC my 3800x to 4.4 ghz all core at 1.375v With pretty much ease. Performs much better and consistently then if i did any PBO tweaking and such. 

I found the opposite. While old school fixed core/voltage style overclocking can be optimised for a specific workload, the power usage varies a lot depending on the load. So either you lose out on performance for light workloads, or you will not be stable for more demanding workloads. Power limit adjustment gets around that as clocks can vary according to the workload.

 

4 hours ago, Shimejii said:

Hopefully Zen3 Brings Better Memory support as well from MB Vendors as their QVLS have been Quite short.

Mobo QVLs are more likely a limit in what is practical for them to have and test. New modules are released all the time, and you get different revisions of existing ones. They'll never keep up.

[Joe4evr]

I really wonder what's the value proposition of, say, the 3600XT over the 3600X? From what I see it's just a 100MHz bump in boost clock, so it seems like the existing X-variant would still be a better value, especially if its price goes down even a little bit when those XTs actually launch.

[AndreiArgeanu]

3 hours ago, Joe4evr said:

I really wonder what's the value proposition of, say, the 3600XT over the 3600X? From what I see it's just a 100MHz bump in boost clock, so it seems like the existing X-variant would still be a better value, especially if its price goes down even a little bit when those XTs actually launch.

Well from what I've heard these cpu's should have better overclocking support so hopefully you'd be able to get higher clocks when overclocking. I'm not sure how they're managing to do it. Perhaps binned cpus?

[Rauten]

These could be an intriguing option for people that (like me) have a 1st gen ryzen with a 300 series mobo, as these could be the best chips we can hope to use without having to buy a new board.

But all that depends on how good these really are... announced or not, there are still rumours about them. Better boost behaviour? IF latency reduced? IF can be pushed to 2000Mhz?

Once reviews come out on 7/7 I might buy one of these, if they turn out to be interesting (and fully compatible).

[RejZoR]

24 minutes ago, Rauten said:

These could be an intriguing option for people that (like me) have a 1st gen ryzen with a 300 series mobo, as these could be the best chips we can hope to use without having to buy a new board.

But all that depends on how good these really are... announced or not, there are still rumours about them. Better boost behaviour? IF latency reduced? IF can be pushed to 2000Mhz?

Once reviews come out on 7/7 I might buy one of these, if they turn out to be interesting (and fully compatible).

Technically, these XT models are Zen 2 just like the non-XT we had for a while. Just with more mature process and thus higher clocks. They should fit into any Zen2 compatible motherboard with a BIOS update.

[Rauten]

25 minutes ago, RejZoR said:

Technically, these XT models are Zen 2 just like the non-XT we had for a while. Just with more mature process and thus higher clocks. They should fit into any Zen2 compatible motherboard with a BIOS update.

The BIOS update is what I'm afraid of.

If these chips require a BIOS update to be properly supported, some manufacturers might decide they don't want to bother with it.

[Doobeedoo]

For a replacement with current ones, pushing them down in price not bad. The 3800XT is quite good, has the highest base/boost clocks. They're just refined current gen to bridge-gap to new series. 

[Tech Enthusiast]

So,...

* about 100mhz more boost clock, that is not even a guarantee.

* same price.

* no more boxed coolers included (for the top cpus that is)

 

Kind of... well... a Kaby-Lake-Move, isn't it?

Yes, just a refresh, but still. A possible 4% single core gain, while multicore will likely not change at all due to boost clocks not staying there?

 

Uhm, well. 

AMD is dominating the CPU market now, so I guess good guy AMD has left the building now.

All hail the new 1-4% per Upgrade overlords!

[AndreiArgeanu]

2 hours ago, Tech Enthusiast said:

*snip*

I guess these are more enthusiast oriented cpu's because from what I can recall, they advertise better overclocking support. Now is clearly not the time for AMD to step down their game and turn to Intel. Also these may be just some CPU's to compete with Intel's 10th gen CPU's untill they get Zen3 CPU's ready and B550 motherboard are widely available.

[xg32]

i'm expecting a 100 mhz bump, 200 would be a win. a 16core model that can sit at 4.3-4.4ghz might be interesting though. Probably waiting for zen 3 either way,

[spartaman64]

15 hours ago, D13H4RD said:

That's for a single-core.

 

All-core would be closer to 4.2 - 4.3GHz.

 

A small bump in boost clocks won't even the playing field against Intel in a significant manner over the non-XT CPUs, let alone surpass them. You have to wait for Zen 3 for that.

idk the boost clock for my 3600 is supposed to be 4.2ghz single core but all of the cores boost to 4.2ghz and some cores even hit 4.4ghz