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Dissappointed from AMD for first time.... Going for Intel Build

9 minutes ago, ketchupspill said:

ok so:

 

a faulty CPU thats been bent. (thats what warranty is for?)

 

switching from a 3600x ( which has decent temps)

 

to a i5 9600kf which if i remember right is notorious for temps.

 

and you didnt bother RMAing, instantly switching

 

plus youre gonna use a STOCK COOLER?

 

just why?

Sorry I was confused I don't understand why they ship the 3600X with a small  cooler.

 

I thought it was gonna be a huge cooler and it was the same cooler as for 2600 that I owned back in time.

 

I was very happy with 2600 but 3600X caused me headaches.

 

I wanted to run it with stock cooler for 1 month, and when get paid put a liquid cooler.

 

But I was so scared seeing 70c on idle and 93c on while playing PUBG.

 

Now its it has been returned

 

and in exchange I am getting 9600KF.

 

At least intel states that you need a heavy cooler for their CPU's, they don't ship with a cheap poor one.

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1 minute ago, VENTUS22 said:

Sorry I was confused I don't understand why they ship the 3600X with a small  cooler.

 

I thought it was gonna be a huge cooler and it was the same cooler as for 2600 that I owned back in time.

 

I was very happy with 2600 but 3600X caused me headaches.

 

I wanted to run it with stock cooler for 1 month, and when get paid put a liquid cooler.

 

But I was so scared seeing 70c on idle and 93c on while playing PUBG.

 

I shut it down straight ahead and put it back in its box. Now its it has been returned

 

and in exchange I am getting 9600KF.

 

At least intel states that you need a heavy cooler for their CPU's, they don't ship with a cheap poor one.

yeah but why?

 

living with 93 C max for a while is fine, its most likely not gonna make your CPU kick the bucket that much faster.

 

did you not research what cooler would ship? if you were gonna buy a new CPU, did you just look at the specs and not even poke around?

 

then youre willing to buy a new CPU and a cooler, rather than just save and use the old one, plus becasue the thermal paste didnt fit right, you returned it instead of RMAing it because as you stated, it was broken?

 

?

stuff is cool. stuff that has fancy lighting is cooler. stuff that has fancy lighting and works is the coolest.

 

i game so i know a bit abt gaming tech, not much abt professional tech.

 

writing this as i finish a 3 hour D2 sesh so excuse anything wrong.

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4 minutes ago, ketchupspill said:

yeah but why?

 

living with 93 C max for a while is fine, its most likely not gonna make your CPU kick the bucket that much faster.

 

did you not research what cooler would ship? if you were gonna buy a new CPU, did you just look at the specs and not even poke around?

 

then youre willing to buy a new CPU and a cooler, rather than just save and use the old one, plus becasue the thermal paste didnt fit right, you returned it instead of RMAing it because as you stated, it was broken?

 

?

I read reviews that the stock cooler reaches 74c max at full load.

 

Its the first time I set up an X @ 95w with its stock cooler.

 

So I did not expect that, I even added more paste and tried on another motherboard.

 

But the temperatures were still the same.

 

So after some troubleshooting I couldn't figure it out.

 

I even underclocked the CPU but temps and performance were not that satisfying again.

 

-5c less...

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3 minutes ago, VENTUS22 said:

I read reviews that the stock cooler reaches 74c max at full load.

 

Its the first time I set up an X @ 95w with its stock cooler.

 

So I did not expect that, I even added more paste and tried on another motherboard.

 

But the temperatures were still the same.

 

So after some troubleshooting I couldn't figure it out.

 

I even underclocked the CPU but temps and performance were not that satisfying again.

 

-5c less...

i have the 2600x with the stock cooler. it works fine. with pbo enabled, i get 88c while stress testing, 75 in games.

it was either a defective cpu, a defective cooler or a defective installation.

 

the stock cooler is adequate (just noisy).

 

people keep arguing with you because based on one bad experience, you are trying to imply AMD is bad and their coolers are not adequate and their cpus are hot, where it was clearly just one bad experience for you (either amd's or your fault) that could have been easily solved by asking for a replacement cpu or cooler.

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1 minute ago, VENTUS22 said:

 

but that was because the CPU was defective.

 

when you realized that, didnt you think that you could RMA it, get a standard, good working one, and get the temps you specified above?

stuff is cool. stuff that has fancy lighting is cooler. stuff that has fancy lighting and works is the coolest.

 

i game so i know a bit abt gaming tech, not much abt professional tech.

 

writing this as i finish a 3 hour D2 sesh so excuse anything wrong.

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This is not a shitpost? O_O

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26 minutes ago, Nena360 said:

This is not a shitpost? O_O

No its just a funny post...  :D :D :D

 

I read the replies and I m laughing... :D

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1 hour ago, ketchupspill said:

but that was because the CPU was defective.

 

when you realized that, didnt you think that you could RMA it, get a standard, good working one, and get the temps you specified above?

No I am scared of AMD's X :(

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6 hours ago, VENTUS22 said:

No I am scared of AMD's X :(

yeah but why are you scared of it after just one bad experience?

stuff is cool. stuff that has fancy lighting is cooler. stuff that has fancy lighting and works is the coolest.

 

i game so i know a bit abt gaming tech, not much abt professional tech.

 

writing this as i finish a 3 hour D2 sesh so excuse anything wrong.

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I don't get it...one issue and your turned off from AMD CPUs? I have a 3900X running extremely well under it's stock cooler. Sometimes you get a bad part...get it warrantied or exchanged from the retailer you bought it from if it's within the return window for a  defective product and try again before you condemn the brand, at least. Also as for why the cooler with the 3600X might be smaller than the one that came with your 2600, smaller process...runs cooler to start with.

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