Dissappointed from AMD for first time.... Going for Intel Build

[VENTUS22]

I recently upgraded my old build from:

Ryzen 5 2600 (Stock Cooler)

Asrock A320M Rev 4.

ASUS 2060 Super Dual Evo OC

 

To:

Ryzen 5 3600X (Stock Cooler)

Gigabyte B450 Aorus M

Gigabyte 2070 Super 3X White OC

 

I was very happy with my R5 2600.

Stock cooler temps 30c-65c

 

After upgrading to 3600X, it was idling on 55-70c.

While playing PUBG hits 90c after 2 minutes of play and even reaching 92-93c.

 

Removed cooler, noticed thermal paste was not attaching on all CPU.

I am very careful when it comes to building desktops.

Screwing diagonally little bit by little bit while holding down the cooler straight.

 

After 3 attempts of refitting Stock Cooler, I ended up adding spaces on gigabyte's backplate (behind mobo)

Still surprisingly , the plenty center of CPU was not touching the Original AMD Cooler thermal paste. Only the edges of the CPU.

 

Added more paste, tried different mobo. Still same temperatures.

 

I will not risk it again to order an X from AMD. I do not accept factory mistakes. It makes me regret it.

 

I RMAed CPU and sold everything else (except the GPU) and I need opinions about my next build:

 

Gigabyte Z390 Aorus Gaming X

Intel i5 9600KF

Budget Cooler Master Master Liquid ML240L RGB

 

Can't pay more for an AIO cooler.

 

Thank you.

 

[Guest]

Wouldn't it just be cheaper and easier to get new thermal paste, or a new cooler?

[Slottr]

You barely tried troubleshooting anything and didn't even use your warranty to get another chip. Then you decide to move to a chip lineup which infamously has extremely high temperatures?

[Nocte]

12 minutes ago, VENTUS22 said:

Can't pay more for an AIO cooler.

Pay less for a decent air cooler? As if Intel stock coolers are good enough for stock clocks?

Or if you think it's the CPU IHS not being flat RMA it?

 

12 minutes ago, VENTUS22 said:

I am very professional when it comes to building desktops.

Sounds like you would prefer pre-builts instead with these expectations and lack of troubleshooting.

[MadAnt250]

22 minutes ago, VENTUS22 said:

I will not risk it again to order an X from AMD.

My x works fine.

22 minutes ago, VENTUS22 said:

Removed cooler, noticed thermal paste was not attaching on all CPU socket.

I am very professional when it comes to building desktops.

There's your problem, the thermal paste is supposed to contact the spreader not the socket. lol.

[Fasauceome]

12 minutes ago, VENTUS22 said:

I do not accept factory mistakes

this standard is way too high, and going with Intel will not necessarily cleanse you of this worry.

[bmx6454]

this sounds like user error lol. go with whatever team you want, its your pc, your money. also, if it is a defect, that happens at any company. if you think intel has never had a defect chip, i assure you your mistaken.

[VENTUS22]

Sorry I understand you believe I did not mount the cooler properly but you are mistaken... I built hundreds of PC's and checked them before giving to the customers.   But I assure you. I mounted it 100% correctly... The center of the CPU was bent down to the bottom obviously. Even tho package arrived without damage.   I added more paste as well and the temps were still the same even with side panels of my NZXT H500i left open.

Edited June 3, 2020 by LogicalDrm
Part of content removed

[VENTUS22]

5 minutes ago, MadAnt250 said:

My x works fine.

There's your problem, the thermal paste is supposed to contact the spreader not the socket.

Sorry my english not very good. I meant the CPU on the top.

[P3rfectLIVE]

I feel you. 

The Ryzen 5 3600X is overpriced and not worth the $50 increase.

 

Although I prefer intel myself, 

• as of right now, the Ryzen 5 3600 is a better gaming CPU for the price
• as of right now, the Ryzen 7 3700X is the best CPU for a mixture between gaming, streaming, and content creation. 
• as of right now, the Ryzen 9 3900X is in the same [category] as the Ryzen 7 for gaming, streaming, and content creation[, but is more focused on workloads considering the 12 cores, 24 threads]. 

But, 
AMD is about to release a Zen2 refresh chipset, making it actually better to wait and see what the price per performance metric ends up being. 

P.S. 
Did you determine if it was the stock cooler or the CPU that was manufactured incorrectly? Why did you not RMA the products?  

Edited June 3, 2020 by P3rfectLIVE
Fixed wording and misinformation about Ryzen 9.

[MadAnt250]

4 minutes ago, VENTUS22 said:

The center of the CPU was bent down to the bottom obviously. Even tho package arrived without damage.

This is what warranties are for.

[VENTUS22]

3 minutes ago, P3rfectLIVE said:

Did you determine if it was the stock cooler or the CPU that was manufactured incorrectly? Why did you not RMA the products?  

Yes I tried mounting it on another mobo as well and in case it was the motherboard and still was the same problem..

 

This is what I explain to everyone they believe I can't mount a cooler properly... Like its a science to do it.

 

Sorry I meant I RMAed the CPU and sold everything else (except GPU)

 

My english really bad.

[Letgomyleghoe]

3 minutes ago, P3rfectLIVE said:

• as of right now, the Ryzen 7 3700X is the best CPU for a mixture between gaming, streaming, and content creation. 
• as of right now, the Ryzen 9 is a better version of the Ryzen 7 for gaming, streaming, and content creation

Wtf did you even read what your wrote?

 

the ryzen 9 isn’t a version of the ryzen 7, the ryzen 9 (assuming 3900x) has 4 more cores than the ryzen 7. 

23 minutes ago, VENTUS22 said:

After 3 attempts of refitting Stock Cooler, I ended up adding spaces on gigabyte's backplate (behind mobo)

Still surprisingly , the plenty center of CPU was not touching the Original AMD Cooler thermal paste. Only the edges of the CPU.

 

I will not risk it again to order an X from AMD. I do not accept factory mistakes. It makes me regret it.

You didn’t even rma? I’m pretty sure this is user error, my cooler works fine, hits all of the cpu.

 

but the ihs may not have been manufactured correctly, and had a higher brim, but I doubt it.
 

[VENTUS22]

3 minutes ago, Letgomyleghoe said:

Wtf did you even read what your wrote?

 

the ryzen 9 isn’t a version of the ryzen 7, the ryzen 9 (assuming 3900x) has 4 more cores than the ryzen 7. 

You didn’t even rma? I’m pretty sure this is user error, my cooler works fine, hits all of the cpu.

 

but the ihs may not have been manufactured correctly, and had a higher brim, but I doubt it.
 

I even added plenty of paste still same temps. Tried on different mobo as well. Still same temps

[Letgomyleghoe]

Just now, VENTUS22 said:

I even added plenty of paste still same temps. Tried on different mobo as well. Still same temps

Well, you have to understand as you said above the ihs is caved in and only making contact with the edges, your best bet would have been an rma and getting a new cpu. 

all company’s have manufacturing mistakes.

[Orangeator]

Just now, VENTUS22 said:

I even added plenty of paste still same temps. Tried on different mobo as well. Still same temps

Look, it could have been a manufacturer mistake. That is technically possible. However, very unlikely. In the off chance that it was, I would have loved for you not to quickly get rid of it, rather taken pictures and shown the IHS being unlevel. That would have made for a much more interesting post. However, I believe Ryzen is still a better platform to build on, especially if temps are of concern. Since Intels latest CPU's run much hotter as they are much less efficient.

[VENTUS22]

21 minutes ago, Nocte said:

Pay less for a decent air cooler? As if Intel stock coolers are good enough for stock clocks?

Or if you think it's the CPU IHS not being flat RMA it?

 

Sounds like you would prefer pre-builts instead with these expectations and lack of troubleshooting.

Dude I troubleshooted this a lot. I even tried a different mobo in case it was Gigabytes backplate and added more paste.

 

Screwed diagonally while holding down little bit by little bit.

 

Why you believe I am lacking of troubleshooting.

[MadAnt250]

29 minutes ago, VENTUS22 said:

I will not risk it again to order an X from AMD. I do not accept factory mistakes. It makes me regret it.

How many times did you get a bad X CPU from AMD?

 

[VENTUS22]

Just now, MadAnt250 said:

How many times did you get a bad X CPU from AMD?

 

With stock cooler once... With Liquid Cooling never.

 

Maybe they should sell it without heatsink

[MadAnt250]

21 hours ago, VENTUS22 said:

With stock cooler once... With Liquid Cooling never.

So one defective CPU is enough to make you switch? So, what would you do if you ever get a defective Intel product?

[steelo]

dude, it happens with any manufacturer. Instead of seeking a refund for a defective cooler (which Im sure they would have done) you attempted to jerry rig it, then complain.

 

Not sure what to tell you.

[steelo]

Just now, MadAnt250 said:

So one defected CPU will is enough to make you switch? So, what would you do if you ever get a defected Intel product?

theres always the Chinese ebay knock offs!

[VENTUS22]

32 minutes ago, Slottr said:

You barely tried troubleshooting anything and didn't even use your warranty to get another chip. Then you decide to move to a chip lineup which infamously has extremely high temperatures?

Sorry I forgot to mention I added more paste and tried this on another motherboard and still get same temps with open side panels and proper airflow.

 

Sorry my english not very good, I RMAed the CPU and *sold everything else* (except GPU)

 

Btw, I had 8600k in the past with H115i Corsair and max temps while playing heavy games were 55c.

 

20-25 on idle.

 

Sorry....

[Jurrunio]

Tbh nobody (at least here, for now) cares if you're gonna switch CPU brand because of 1 failed unit, that's your money, your time and your choice. What we care is how you use 1 failed unit to discredit the entire company, because with this standard you can't buy anything.

[VENTUS22]

2 minutes ago, MadAnt250 said:

So one defective CPU will is enough to make you switch? So, what would you do if you ever get a defective Intel product?

Because AMD begins to scare me... Especially with 70c temps on Idle and open case panels.