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Haven't used my m.2 slots in my 5 year old motherboard yet...

SatansBestBuddy
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I have a Gigabyte H170 Gaming 3 motherboard with a i7 7700, and I've been noticing it's taking quite a long while to start up and shut down. Start up is usually around 30 seconds though it can take longer, and shut down I've seen take over 3 minutes which is like, damn, my first computer wasn't that slow. So I've been thinking maybe it's time to upgrade the SSD, but then I realized, oh yeah, I have two m.2 slots that I have literally never used before, maybe I should use those.

As someone new to NVMe's, I was hoping to ask, how easy is it to transfer over Win10 from my current SSD to a NVMe? And would a RAID setup be worth the investment?

Still in the middle of reading up on NVMe's but these are the two questions I have right now that I was hoping to get some opinions on.

Thanks for your time!

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what current drive do you have?

 

A faster drive probbly wont help, nvme vs sata is. very small difference in boot times, or the nvme is slower due to the pcie init time. Probably just do a reinstall of the os if there is junk on it.

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Samsung 850 EVO 250GB is my OS drive, was thinking of using the 970 EVO instead.

Most of what I've been reading says NVMe is a x4 difference, that just hot air eh?

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3 minutes ago, SatansBestBuddy said:

Samsung 850 EVO 250GB is my OS drive, was thinking of using the 970 EVO instead.

Most of what I've been reading says NVMe is a x4 difference, that just hot air eh?

I have that same drive with a worst build than yours, and I boot twice as fast.
Is the drive almost full? What does Samsung Magician say about the drive's health?

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109 GBs used, SM says the health is good with the latest firmware. Also says there are two partitions which I have never understood but whatev.

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Upgraded from a 850 EVO 250GB to a 970 EVO Plus NVME 500GB boot drive myself not too long ago. Difference in boot time was hardly noticeable. Seems like a fresh install of Windows is in order for you.

 

As for transferring an install of Windows to another drive, I would recommend against it considering my former suggestion... However, Samsung has a utility for doing that that works with their drives, or you can use the free version of Macrium Reflect.

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26 minutes ago, SatansBestBuddy said:

109 GBs used, SM says the health is good with the latest firmware. Also says there are two partitions which I have never understood but whatev.

The raw partition is provisioning space, ideally the larger the better, as the drive gets written evenly

 

Have you tried TRIM?

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Hmm. Well then, guess I'd get a fresh install started then.

Also, SM also says RAPID mode is not working for some reason, do you have RAPID mode working on yours?

EDIT: What's TRIMM? Maybe I'll give that a look.

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TRIM should be automatically enabled on Windows 10.

 

RAPID mode can be ignored, it's just RAM caching. UNless you have more RAM than you know what to do with.

 

How long have you gone since a fresh install? Did your install of Windwos 10 used to be Windows 7 (ie you upgraded)?

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  • GPU: MSI RTX 2080 Sea Hawk EK X, 2070Mhz core, 8000Mhz mem
  • Case: Phanteks Evolv X
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  • Keyboard: Corsair Strafe RGB (Cherry MX Brown)
  • Mouse: MasterMouse MM710
  • Headset: Corsair Void Pro RGB
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  • Motherboard: Asus Z97A
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  • GPU: EVGA GTX 1080 FTW2 with LM TIM
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  • Storage: Samsung 850 EVO 250GB, Samsung 860 EVO 1TB, Silicon Power A80 1TB NVME
  • PSU: Corsair AX760
  • Display: Samsung C27JG56 27" 2560x1440 144Hz Freesync
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  • Mouse: Glorious Model O-
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  • Motherboard: Asus H110T/CSM Thin Mini-ITX
  • RAM: G.Skill 1x8GB DDR4-2400 SO-DIMM CL16
  • GPU: HD 630
  • Case: Akasa Euler Fanless Solid Aluminum THIN Mini ITX Case (passively cooled)
  • Storage: Samsung 850 EVO 250GB
  • PSU: External 120W Power Adaptor
  • Display: 4K TV
  • Cooling: Passively cooled by the Akasa case. No moving parts!
  • Keyboard/Mouse: Handheld QWERTY keyboard and trackpad.
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  • 2x8TB WD Red NAS HDDs in RAID 1. 8TB usable space
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A lot of older motherboards use b key for m.2 so it’s no different than sata6 anyway.

Life is like a bowl of chocolates: there are all these little crinkly paper cups everywhere.

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I put Win10 on this system in 2016 and haven't had any reinstalls or issues, just gradually slowing down over time.
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Did a benchmark test and checked the history for the last time I tested and... that's an interesting difference.

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12 minutes ago, HairlessMonkeyBoy said:

TRIM should be automatically enabled on Windows 10.

It should but, at least on my end, months would pass since the last TRIMM occurred

17 minutes ago, SatansBestBuddy said:

EDIT: What's TRIMM? Maybe I'll give that a look.

When you delete a file it isn't actually deleted right away, but the block(s) where that file was present are marked as 'deleted', but the data is still there.

 

TRIM deletes the blocks marked as 'deleted'. Usually, Windows should have this process scheduled, but that's not always the case.

 

Just type 'defrag' in the search bar and open the defrag tool.
From there check your drive, it should recognize it as an SSD.
Check when the last optimization occurred, if some time has passed, you might want to manually optimize it

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GPU: MSI 390 8Gb Gaming Edition ( +295 Mhz core // +120 Mhz memory)  PSU: XFX TS 650w Bronze Enermax Revolution D.F. 650w 80+ Gold

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Trimm is on and it was defraged 2 days ago.

Did it again just cause.

really does look like I'll have to do a fresh install... ugh...

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