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ryzen 7 2700x vs. ryzen 5 3600

Here in india the pricing of amd's ryzen 7 2700x and ryzen 5 3600 are pretty close , i'm building a pc for personal use i'll be mainly editing videos playing some games (latest triple a titles) , REALLY CONFUSED WITH WHAT I SHOULD GO FOR HERE . Enlighten me with your opinion guys .

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for editing 2700x makes more sense. for gaming 3600 is much better. What do you do more? edit or game? if game get 3600 is edit get 2700x

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Tier lists for building a PC.

 

Motherboard tier list. Tier A for overclocking 5950x. Tier B for overclocking 5900x, Tier C for overclocking 5800X. Tier D for overclocking 5600X. Tier F for 4/6 core Cpus at stock. Tier E avoid.

(Also case airflow matter or if you are using Downcraft air cooler)

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Gpu tier list. Rtx 3000 and RX 6000 not included since not so many reviews. Tier S for Water cooling. Tier A and B for overcloking. Tier C stock and Tier D avoid.

( You can overclock Tier C just fine, but it can get very loud, that is why it is not recommended for overclocking, same with tier D)

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Psu tier List. Tier A for Rtx 3000, Vega and RX 6000. Tier B For anything else. Tier C cheap/IGPU. Tier D and E avoid.

(RTX 3000/ RX 6000 Might run just fine with higher wattage tier B unit, Rtx 3070 runs fine with tier B units)

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Cpu cooler tier list. Tier 1&2 for power hungry Cpus with Overclock. Tier 3&4 for overclocking Ryzen 3,5,7 or lower power Intel Cpus. Tier 5 for overclocking low end Cpus or 4/6 core Ryzen. Tier 6&7 for stock. Tier 8&9 Ryzen stock cooler performance. Do not waste your money!

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Storage tier List. Tier A for Moving files/  OS. Tier B for OS/Games. Tier C for games. Tier D budget Pcs. Tier E if on sale not the worst but not good.

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If editing videos is your primary use for the PC, the 2700X is better since it has two extra cores. The CPU is also quite good at gaming.

 

Although, neither of these CPUs is really the wrong choice, they're both quite decent at gaming AND editing.

I WILL find your ITX build thread, and I WILL recommend the SIlverstone Sugo SG13B

 

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i7 8086k (won) - EVGA Z370 Classified K - G.Skill Trident Z RGB - WD SN750 - Jedi Order Titan Xp - Hyper 212 Black (with RGB Riing flair) - EVGA G2 650W - dual booting Windows 10 and Linux - Black and green theme, Razer brainwashed me.

Draws 400 watts under max load, for reference.

 

Linux Proliant ML150 G6:

Dual Xeon X5560 - 24GB ECC DDR3 - GTX 750 TI - old Seagate 1.5TB HDD - dark mode Ubuntu (and Win7, cuz why not)

 

How many watts do I need? Seasonic Focus threadUserbenchmark (Et al.) is trash explained, PSU misconceptions, protections explainedgroup reg is bad

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but the 2700x's single core performance is considerably lower and also doesnt support amd's version of hyper threading

 

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Just now, aditya_india said:

but the 2700x's single core performance is considerably lower and also doesnt support amd's version of hyper threading

 

whaa? it supports hyper threading as good as 3600. yes its single core speed is slower but it is still better for editing

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Main PC:

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|Ryzen 7 3700x, OC to 4.2ghz @1.3V, 67C, or 4.4ghz @1.456V, 87C || Asus strix 5700 XT, +50 core, +50 memory, +50 power (not a great overclocker) || Asus Strix b550-A || G.skill trident Z Neo rgb 32gb 3600mhz cl16-19-19-19-39, oc to 3733mhz with the same timings || Cooler Master ml360 RGB AIO || Phanteks P500A Digital || Thermaltake ToughPower grand RGB750w 80+gold || Samsung 850 250gb and Adata SX 6000 Lite 500gb || Toshiba 5400rpm 1tb || Asus Rog Theta 7.1 || Asus Rog claymore || Asus Gladius 2 origin gaming mouse || Monitor 1 Asus 1080p 144hz || Monitor 2 AOC 1080p 75hz || 

Test Rig.

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Ryzen 5 3400G || Gigabyte b450 S2H || Hyper X fury 2x4gb 2666mhz cl 16 ||Stock cooler || Antec NX100 || Silverstone essential 400w || Transgend SSD 220s 480gb ||

Just Sold

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| i3 9100F || Msi Gaming X gtx 1050 TI || MSI Z390 A-Pro || Kingston 1x16gb 2400mhz cl17 || Stock cooler || Kolink Horizon RGB || Corsair CV 550w || Pny CS900 120gb ||

 

Tier lists for building a PC.

 

Motherboard tier list. Tier A for overclocking 5950x. Tier B for overclocking 5900x, Tier C for overclocking 5800X. Tier D for overclocking 5600X. Tier F for 4/6 core Cpus at stock. Tier E avoid.

(Also case airflow matter or if you are using Downcraft air cooler)

Spoiler

 

Gpu tier list. Rtx 3000 and RX 6000 not included since not so many reviews. Tier S for Water cooling. Tier A and B for overcloking. Tier C stock and Tier D avoid.

( You can overclock Tier C just fine, but it can get very loud, that is why it is not recommended for overclocking, same with tier D)

Spoiler

 

Psu tier List. Tier A for Rtx 3000, Vega and RX 6000. Tier B For anything else. Tier C cheap/IGPU. Tier D and E avoid.

(RTX 3000/ RX 6000 Might run just fine with higher wattage tier B unit, Rtx 3070 runs fine with tier B units)

Spoiler

 

Cpu cooler tier list. Tier 1&2 for power hungry Cpus with Overclock. Tier 3&4 for overclocking Ryzen 3,5,7 or lower power Intel Cpus. Tier 5 for overclocking low end Cpus or 4/6 core Ryzen. Tier 6&7 for stock. Tier 8&9 Ryzen stock cooler performance. Do not waste your money!

Spoiler

 

Storage tier List. Tier A for Moving files/  OS. Tier B for OS/Games. Tier C for games. Tier D budget Pcs. Tier E if on sale not the worst but not good.

(With a grain of salt, I use tier C for OS myself)

Spoiler

 

Case Tier List. Work In Progress. Most Phanteks airflow series cases already done!

Ask me anything :)

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3 minutes ago, aditya_india said:

but the 2700x's single core performance is considerably lower and also doesnt support amd's version of hyper threading

 

The Ryzen 7 2700X is an 8 core 16 thread CPU, if it did not support SMT it would be an 8 core 8 thread CPU. The Ryzen 5 3600 is a 6 core 12 thread CPU.

 

The only AMD Ryzen CPUs that do not support SMT are the Ryzen 3 family (with the exceptions of the 3100 and 3300X) and the Ryzen 5 3500, and some other OEM only CPUs that come to mind.

I WILL find your ITX build thread, and I WILL recommend the SIlverstone Sugo SG13B

 

Primary PC:

i7 8086k (won) - EVGA Z370 Classified K - G.Skill Trident Z RGB - WD SN750 - Jedi Order Titan Xp - Hyper 212 Black (with RGB Riing flair) - EVGA G2 650W - dual booting Windows 10 and Linux - Black and green theme, Razer brainwashed me.

Draws 400 watts under max load, for reference.

 

Linux Proliant ML150 G6:

Dual Xeon X5560 - 24GB ECC DDR3 - GTX 750 TI - old Seagate 1.5TB HDD - dark mode Ubuntu (and Win7, cuz why not)

 

How many watts do I need? Seasonic Focus threadUserbenchmark (Et al.) is trash explained, PSU misconceptions, protections explainedgroup reg is bad

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shit i checked just now, yea it does support smt my bad , ill be mainly editing then its the 2700x 

 

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Just now, aditya_india said:

shit i checked just now, yea it does support smt my bad , ill be mainly editing then its the 2700x 

 

used 2700x or brand new 2700x?

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Just now, aditya_india said:

brand new 2700x

 

Make sure you quote us so we can see your responses

 

2 minutes ago, AshRiver said:

used 2700x or brand new 2700x?

Not sure if the used market so that strong in India

I WILL find your ITX build thread, and I WILL recommend the SIlverstone Sugo SG13B

 

Primary PC:

i7 8086k (won) - EVGA Z370 Classified K - G.Skill Trident Z RGB - WD SN750 - Jedi Order Titan Xp - Hyper 212 Black (with RGB Riing flair) - EVGA G2 650W - dual booting Windows 10 and Linux - Black and green theme, Razer brainwashed me.

Draws 400 watts under max load, for reference.

 

Linux Proliant ML150 G6:

Dual Xeon X5560 - 24GB ECC DDR3 - GTX 750 TI - old Seagate 1.5TB HDD - dark mode Ubuntu (and Win7, cuz why not)

 

How many watts do I need? Seasonic Focus threadUserbenchmark (Et al.) is trash explained, PSU misconceptions, protections explainedgroup reg is bad

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2 minutes ago, Fasauceome said:

Make sure you quote us so we can see your responses

 

Not sure if the used market so that strong in India

its not at all strong over here , the used market is very unreliable , plus there are a few used 2700xs whoever bought ryzen 2nd is using it for atleast 5 years for sure

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3 minutes ago, aditya_india said:

brand new 2700x

 

Depends on the pricing

And what are you planning on pairing it with ? 

To put it simply both of them have similar ipc but the 2700x will out perform the 3600 because if the extra 2 hyper threaded cores (I'm talking about editing )

But the 3600 has that better imc if you require tasks that need memory and needs it bad so something other than editing but over all JUST for editing it's simple the 2700x

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1 minute ago, TofuHaroto said:

Depends on the pricing

And what are you planning on pairing it with ? 

To put it simply both of them have similar ipc but the 2700x will out perform the 3600 because if the extra 2 hyper threaded cores (I'm talking about editing )

But the 3600 has that better imc if you require tasks that need memory and needs it bad so something other than editing but over all JUST for editing it's simple the 2700x

ill be mainly editing and playing some games like red dead redemption, gta 5, doom , apex legends etc. also im pairing it with a 5700xt since its price is surprsingly lower than even the 1660 ti right now , unbelievable right ?

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1 minute ago, aditya_india said:

ill be mainly editing and playing some games like red dead redemption, gta 5, doom , apex legends etc. also im pairing it with a 5700xt since its price is surprsingly lower than even the 1660 ti right now , unbelievable right ?

How much are 2700x and 3700x over there?

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6 minutes ago, aditya_india said:

ill be mainly editing and playing some games like red dead redemption, gta 5, doom , apex legends etc. also im pairing it with a 5700xt since its price is surprsingly lower than even the 1660 ti right now , unbelievable right ?

Then the 2700x is perfect because for gaming it will be the same as the 3600

 

PC: Motherboard: ASUS B550M TUF-Plus, CPU: Ryzen 3 3100, CPU Cooler: Arctic Freezer 34, GPU: GIGABYTE WindForce GTX1650S, RAM: HyperX Fury RGB 2x8GB 3200 CL16, Case, CoolerMaster MB311L ARGB, Boot Drive: 250GB MX500, Game Drive: WD Blue 1TB 7200RPM HDD.

 

Peripherals: GK61 (Optical Gateron Red) with Mistel White/Orange keycaps, Logitech G102 (Purple), BitWit Ensemble Grey Deskpad. 

 

Audio: Logitech G432, Moondrop Starfield, Mic: Razer Siren Mini (White).

 

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3 minutes ago, AshRiver said:

How much are 2700x and 3700x over there?

3700x goes for around 360 USD right now and the 2700x for around 150 USD

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Just now, aditya_india said:

3700x goes for around 360 USD right now and the 2700x for around 150 USD

If definitely the 2700x

PC: Motherboard: ASUS B550M TUF-Plus, CPU: Ryzen 3 3100, CPU Cooler: Arctic Freezer 34, GPU: GIGABYTE WindForce GTX1650S, RAM: HyperX Fury RGB 2x8GB 3200 CL16, Case, CoolerMaster MB311L ARGB, Boot Drive: 250GB MX500, Game Drive: WD Blue 1TB 7200RPM HDD.

 

Peripherals: GK61 (Optical Gateron Red) with Mistel White/Orange keycaps, Logitech G102 (Purple), BitWit Ensemble Grey Deskpad. 

 

Audio: Logitech G432, Moondrop Starfield, Mic: Razer Siren Mini (White).

 

Phone: Pixel 3a (Purple-ish).

 

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1 minute ago, aditya_india said:

3700x goes for around 360 USD right now and the 2700x for around 150 USD

Oh okay. 2700x than.

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Just now, AshRiver said:

Oh okay. 2700x than.

how is everything so cheap in the US man ? 

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1 minute ago, aditya_india said:

how is everything so cheap in the US man ? 

idk man.

 

But electronic prices in US right now are gouging  a lot due to coronavirus and short supply.

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1 minute ago, AshRiver said:

idk man.

 

But electronic prices in US right now are gouging  a lot due to coronavirus and short supply.

its strange how our economy works as compared to others like the US, some electronic prices took a nose dive here and some are same as before, this was mainly because productions didnt stop in our factories and imports also didnt stop but the demand fell drastically  

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1 hour ago, aditya_india said:

3700x goes for around 360 USD right now and the 2700x for around 150 USD

Can you please share where you are buying 2700x from? Price in mdcomputers and other online store seems to be high enough. I am going to build a pc soon.

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I'd look for benchmarks on the specific applications and games you will use. And also access in which category you can tolerate worse performance in. 

 

Personally, a video taking 20% longer to render doesn't negatively impact me much. But having frame dips in games ruins the experience for me. So I'd personally get the 3600 unless I was exclusively doing video editing.

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On 5/24/2020 at 7:37 PM, aditya_india said:

ill be mainly editing and playing some games like red dead redemption, gta 5, doom , apex legends etc. also im pairing it with a 5700xt since its price is surprsingly lower than even the 1660 ti right now , unbelievable right ?

hey, im from india as well. where did you find the 5700xt cheaper than the 1660ti? id like to purchase one if the pricing seems right

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