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I9-10900K vs Ryzen 9 3950X for Professional Esports

Harit Paurana
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What’s up guys,

Just a doubt... I’m building a new gaming rig with the purpose of professional esports (Fortnite, Apex Legends and CSGO)... I am confused between the CPUs though... Should I go with the 10900K or the 3950X? Or is it worthwhile waiting for the AMD 4000 CPUs? Also for my GPU I’m going with an Asus Rog Strix 2080Ti OC, so should I wait for RTX 3000 series GPU lineup or is this ok right now?

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On 5/24/2020 at 1:44 AM, Harit Paurana said:

What’s up guys,

Just a doubt... I’m building a new gaming rig with the purpose of professional esports (Fortnite, Apex Legends and CSGO)... I am confused between the CPUs though... Should I go with the 10900K or the 3950X? Or is it worthwhile waiting for the AMD 4000 CPUs? Also for my GPU I’m going with an Asus Rog Strix 2080Ti OC, so should I wait for RTX 3000 series GPU lineup or is this ok right now?

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second, you dont need either for esports, anything like a 3700x or 3800x will suit you, or a i7 9700k. but if you really want the top of the line diminishing returns, either works. i would recommend 3950x because if i remember right its a little cheaper.

 

2080ti is also overkill, if yure playing on 1440p or 1080 p you only reaally really need a 2080 super, plus, 3000 series arent worth it in ur case as pretty much all competetive esports games are made to not need intensive graphics and certainly not RTX.

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stuff is cool. stuff that has fancy lighting is cooler. stuff that has fancy lighting and works is the coolest.

 

i game so i know a bit abt gaming tech, not much abt professional tech.

 

writing this as i finish a 3 hour D2 sesh so excuse anything wrong.

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i5-10600k is more than enough if you really want that max FPS.

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1. I don’t think a lot of people are professionals in three different games at once. 
2. if this is pure gaming, then the i9-10900k will win. keep in mind you’ll need a large psu and a large AIO to tame it. 
3. if you plan on streaming, a 3950x would be better. 
4. I’m pretty sure that a 360hz monitor is coming soon 

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Just watch Gamer Nexus review of the 10900k.

 

If all you want is gaming performance and you are willing to pay, that is currently the best performing CPU in games.

 

Is it worth it? Not for the vast majority of us, but if your use case is different then go for it.


As an aside, the 3950x performs worse than the 3900x in most games, the additional core count of the 3950x doesn't help in most games, but due to the higher core count the clock speed is a little lower and that impacts on performance in games.

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10 hours ago, ketchupspill said:

first, wrong forum, go to CPUs and mobos

 

second, you dont need either for esports, anything like a 3700x or 3800x will suit you, or a i7 9700k. but if you really want the top of the line diminishing returns, either works. i would recommend 3950x because if i remember right its a little cheaper.

 

2080ti is also overkill, if yure playing on 1440p or 1080 p you only reaally really need a 2080 super, plus, 3000 series arent worth it in ur case as pretty much all competetive esports games are made to not need intensive graphics and certainly not RTX.

Will I lose fps with the 3950X though ?

 

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5 minutes ago, Harit Paurana said:

Will I lose fps with the 3950X though ?

 

In the other thread you made, you said you would be streaming as well, which would make the 3950x the better choice. 

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5 minutes ago, gloop said:

In the other thread you made, you said you would be streaming as well, which would make the 3950x the better choice. 

Yeah I understand that, but will get 240fps lock while gaming with and without streaming alike?

 

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Just now, Harit Paurana said:

Yeah I understand that, but will get 240fps lock while gaming with and without streaming alike?

 

If at 1080p low, then yes. 

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4 hours ago, Harit Paurana said:

Will I lose fps with the 3950X though ?

 

not by much, definitely not enough to impact you, and its much better for streaming as well.

stuff is cool. stuff that has fancy lighting is cooler. stuff that has fancy lighting and works is the coolest.

 

i game so i know a bit abt gaming tech, not much abt professional tech.

 

writing this as i finish a 3 hour D2 sesh so excuse anything wrong.

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Streaming is not profesional esports

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On 5/24/2020 at 9:41 AM, xAcid9 said:

i5-10600k is more than enough if you really want that max FPS.

Tjeez, did you even read his question? If he plays games professionally he will also stream. That means he needs a proper CPU with enough threads to do both. It's how gamers make money. i9900k  or it's cheaper and newr 10900k are great for this. Ryzen 3900x aswell.

 

Waiting for the 4000 series wont help because thats what, 6 months away? And they will first launch mobile if I remember correctly...

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3 hours ago, NiQuil said:

Tjeez, did you even read his question? If he plays games professionally he will also stream. That means he needs a proper CPU with enough threads to do both. It's how gamers make money. i9900k  or it's cheaper and newr 10900k are great for this. Ryzen 3900x aswell.

1. Zero mention about streaming in his original post.

2. Streaming with i5-10600k will give more FPS compare to 3900x still.

3. He can use 2080 Ti NVENC for streaming which is probably the best option. 

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On 5/29/2020 at 3:17 AM, NiQuil said:

Tjeez, did you even read his question? If he plays games professionally he will also stream. That means he needs a proper CPU with enough threads to do both. It's how gamers make money. i9900k  or it's cheaper and newr 10900k are great for this. Ryzen 3900x aswell.

 

Waiting for the 4000 series wont help because thats what, 6 months away? And they will first launch mobile if I remember correctly...

Thanks a lot dude... I've decided to go with the 10900K.... Really appreciate your help :)

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On 5/28/2020 at 10:47 PM, NiQuil said:

i9900k

why would you buy this? 10th gen is out and it is the same price.

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2 minutes ago, gloop said:

why would you buy this? 10th gen is out and it is the same price.

dude I said i'm going with the 10900K

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Just now, Harit Paurana said:

dude I said i'm going with the 10900K

I wasn't talking to you, it was just asking the other persons thought process on that recommendation. 

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On 5/24/2020 at 7:44 AM, Harit Paurana said:

What’s up guys,

Just a doubt... I’m building a new gaming rig with the purpose of professional esports (Fortnite, Apex Legends and CSGO)... I am confused between the CPUs though... Should I go with the 10900K or the 3950X? Or is it worthwhile waiting for the AMD 4000 CPUs? Also for my GPU I’m going with an Asus Rog Strix 2080Ti OC, so should I wait for RTX 3000 series GPU lineup or is this ok right now?

It's esports games and the settings are generally at low for most of them. would think literally any of the 3rd gen R5+ parts would be more than fine with a 2060S or 5700XT. Would look more into monitors tbh no point getting a PC for esports that can churn out 300FPS if you're on a 60Hz display. 

Dirty Windows Peasants :P ?

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7 hours ago, Lord Vile said:

It's esports games and the settings are generally at low for most of them. would think literally any of the 3rd gen R5+ parts would be more than fine with a 2060S or 5700XT. Would look more into monitors tbh no point getting a PC for esports that can churn out 300FPS if you're on a 60Hz display. 

Dude I’m going for the Alienware AW2521HF which is a 240hz 1ms response time IPS panel... Now if there’s one better than this, pls enlighten me...

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47 minutes ago, Harit Paurana said:

Dude I’m going for the Alienware AW2521HF which is a 240hz 1ms response time IPS panel... Now if there’s one better than this, pls enlighten me...

Well i'd go TN for a high refresh display, IPS has better colour but worse response times and the "1ms" ones are generally software tricks. Plus IPS glow etc. 

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4 hours ago, Harit Paurana said:

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late to post, for 240hz just go with 10900k,  you'd need every last bit of juice when it comes to games like apex/fn, the exception is CSGO, then u have to go amd.

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If you can wait, wait for ryzen 4000 series performance reveal and 3080ti. (something in ryzen 4000 might edge out intel, maybe the 4800x or 4900x?)

 

If you need to buy now, 10900k and 2080ti will saturate your 240hz monitor better than anything else on the market.  

 

That is all

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7 hours ago, Zberg said:

If you can wait, wait for ryzen 4000 series performance reveal and 3080ti. (something in ryzen 4000 might edge out intel, maybe the 4800x or 4900x?)

 

If you need to buy now, 10900k and 2080ti will saturate your 240hz monitor better than anything else on the market.  

 

That is all

Dude is it a long wait for the 3080Ti? I'm not as enthusiastic about the R4000 series but I really care about the 3080Ti, as I've heard it delivers 40% more performance than the 2080Ti. Any idea when the 3080Ti might come out? Also should I care about the 360hz monitors that are gonna be coming?

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