build Buying the high end in May 2020

[Yanashydo]

Budget (including currency): 4000 EUR (excluding monitor)

Country: Germany

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Newest games, especially upcomming Cyberpunk 2077. Streaming, video editing. 

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc):

I have a little bit of dilema right now. My GPU (780 Ti) died at me yesterday in the night (09.05.2020) after 7 years of day to day service. I "baked" the GPU and made several stress tests after it and the GPU runs atm good, but the question is for how long. 

I wanted nonetheless to buy completely new rig at the September of 2020, so I would have new PC for the Cyberpunk 2077 release. But with the upcomming news about the RTX 3000 cards, I am not so sure, if it is wise to buy right now a 2080 Ti with watercool block for the complete watercooled system. Or is it better, to buy f.e RTX. 2070 Super and sell it later this year and buying f.e. RTX 3080 Ti? Of course I know, I would loose some money in the process. 

Below, you can find 2 different tables, with the components. Once build with an RTX 2080 Ti + watercooled components and once with RTX 2070 S. I have a version with AIO components, but honestly, I do not want to go in the AIO. Same goes for the Intel option, but since the i9 9900K + mobo and AMD Ryzen 9 3900X + mobo has exactly the same price, I would rather go for the AMD. 

High end with RTX 2080 Ti:

Part	Part name	Price	Shop
Case	Lian Li PC-O11D Razer Edition	€169.90	Caseking
Distro-Plate	O11D Distro-Plate G1	€199.99	Caseking
Radiator	EK-CoolStream PE 360 (Triple)	€80.94	EKWB
CPU cooler	EK-Quantum Velocity D-RGB - AMD Nickel + Plexi	€109.90	EKWB
GPU cooler	EK-Quantum Vector RTX RE Ti D-RGB - Nickel + Plexi	€149.90	EKWB
Tubing	6x EK-HD PETG Tube 16/12mm	€46.56	EKWB
Fittings	14x EK-HTC Classic 16mm - Nickel	€61.60	EKWB
Extenders	4x EK-Extender G1/4 - Nickel	€8.72	EKWB
90° fittings	4x EK-AF Angled 90° G1/4 Nickel	€21.24	EKWB
Coolant	EK-CryoFuel Clear (Concentrate 100mL)	€6.90	EKWB
Filling bottle	Filling Bottle (1000mL)	€6.78	EKWB
Bending kit	Pacific Hardtube Bending 16/12mm Kit	€94.90	Caseking
Fans	Lian Li BR120 Digital RGB PWM Lüfter 3er Pack + Controller	€49.90	Caseking
Motherboard	MSI MEG X570 ACE	€337.40	Amazon
CPU	AMD Ryzen 9 3900X	€449.00	Amazon
GPU	NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX™ 2080 TI	€1,259	NVIDIA
PSU	Seasonic PRIME GX-850	€169.90	Alternate
RAM	G.Skill DIMM 32 GB DDR4-3600 Kit	€222.90	Alternate
SSD	Samsung 970 EVO 1 TB	€199.90	Alternate
HDD	Seagate IronWolf 4 TB	€119.90	Alternate
Total summ		€3,765.23

 

High end with RTX 2070 Super:

Part	Part name	Price	Shop
Case	Lian Li PC-O11D Razer Edition	€169.90	Caseking
Distro-Plate	O11D Distro-Plate G1	€199.99	Caseking
Radiator	EK-CoolStream PE 360 (Triple)	€80.94	EKWB
CPU cooler	EK-Quantum Velocity D-RGB - AMD Nickel + Plexi	€109.90	EKWB
Tubing	6x EK-HD PETG Tube 16/12mm	€46.56	EKWB
Fittings	14x EK-HTC Classic 16mm - Nickel	€61.60	EKWB
Extenders	4x EK-Extender G1/4 - Nickel	€8.72	EKWB
90° fittings	4x EK-AF Angled 90° G1/4 Nickel	€21.24	EKWB
Coolant	EK-CryoFuel Clear (Concentrate 100mL)	€6.90	EKWB
Filling bottle	Filling Bottle (1000mL)	€6.78	EKWB
Bending kit	Pacific Hardtube Bending 16/12mm Kit	€94.90	Caseking
Fans	Lian Li BR120 Digital RGB PWM Lüfter 3er Pack + Controller	€49.90	Caseking
Motherboard	MSI MEG X570 ACE	€337.40	Amazon
CPU	AMD Ryzen 9 3900X	€449.00	Amazon
GPU	EVGA GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER XC ULTRA	€584	Alternate
PSU	Seasonic PRIME GX-850	€169.90	Alternate
RAM	G.Skill DIMM 32 GB DDR4-3600 Kit	€222.90	Alternate
SSD	Samsung 970 EVO 1 TB	€199.90	Alternate
HDD	Seagate IronWolf 4 TB	€119.90	Alternate
Total summ		€2,940.33

 

As you can see, the price difference is 800+ EUR, just becuase of the another GPU and the watercool block. I could save that money, and buy later this year a GPU from RTX 3000 series. I hope, that I would not loose that much money, by selling the 2070 Super. I as well assume, that selling 2080 Ti, when the new 3000 series will be out is almost impossible, without loosing literally hunderds of EUR. 


Thank you guys so much for your help and advices! 
 

 

[jaslion]

3 minutes ago, Yanashydo said:

Budget (including currency): 4000 EUR (excluding monitor)

Country: Germany

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Newest games, especially upcomming Cyberpunk 2077. Streaming, video editing. 

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc):

I have a little bit of dilema right now. My GPU (780 Ti) died at me yesterday in the night (09.05.2020) after 7 years of day to day service. I "baked" the GPU and made several stress tests after it and the GPU runs atm good, but the question is for how long. 

I wanted nonetheless to buy completely new rig at the September of 2020, so I would have new PC for the Cyberpunk 2077 release. But with the upcomming news about the RTX 3000 cards, I am not so sure, if it is wise to buy right now a 2080 Ti with watercool block for the complete watercooled system. Or is it better, to buy f.e RTX. 2070 Super and sell it later this year and buying f.e. RTX 3080 Ti? Of course I know, I would loose some money in the process. 

Below, you can find 2 different tables, with the components. Once build with an RTX 2080 Ti + watercooled components and once with RTX 2070 S. I have a version with AIO components, but honestly, I do not want to go in the AIO. Same goes for the Intel option, but since the i9 9900K + mobo and AMD Ryzen 9 3900X + mobo has exactly the same price, I would rather go for the AMD. 

High end with RTX 2080 Ti:

 

Part	Part name	Price	Shop
Case	Lian Li PC-O11D Razer Edition	€169.90	Caseking
Distro-Plate	O11D Distro-Plate G1	€199.99	Caseking
Radiator	EK-CoolStream PE 360 (Triple)	€80.94	EKWB
CPU cooler	EK-Quantum Velocity D-RGB - AMD Nickel + Plexi	€109.90	EKWB
GPU cooler	EK-Quantum Vector RTX RE Ti D-RGB - Nickel + Plexi	€149.90	EKWB
Tubing	6x EK-HD PETG Tube 16/12mm	€46.56	EKWB
Fittings	14x EK-HTC Classic 16mm - Nickel	€61.60	EKWB
Extenders	4x EK-Extender G1/4 - Nickel	€8.72	EKWB
90° fittings	4x EK-AF Angled 90° G1/4 Nickel	€21.24	EKWB
Coolant	EK-CryoFuel Clear (Concentrate 100mL)	€6.90	EKWB
Filling bottle	Filling Bottle (1000mL)	€6.78	EKWB
Bending kit	Pacific Hardtube Bending 16/12mm Kit	€94.90	Caseking
Fans	Lian Li BR120 Digital RGB PWM Lüfter 3er Pack + Controller	€49.90	Caseking
Motherboard	MSI MEG X570 ACE	€337.40	Amazon
CPU	AMD Ryzen 9 3900X	€449.00	Amazon
GPU	NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX™ 2080 TI	€1,259	NVIDIA
PSU	Seasonic PRIME GX-850	€169.90	Alternate
RAM	G.Skill DIMM 32 GB DDR4-3600 Kit	€222.90	Alternate
SSD	Samsung 970 EVO 1 TB	€199.90	Alternate
HDD	Seagate IronWolf 4 TB	€119.90	Alternate
Total summ		€3,765.23

 

High end with RTX 2070 Super:

 

Part	Part name	Price	Shop
Case	Lian Li PC-O11D Razer Edition	€169.90	Caseking
Distro-Plate	O11D Distro-Plate G1	€199.99	Caseking
Radiator	EK-CoolStream PE 360 (Triple)	€80.94	EKWB
CPU cooler	EK-Quantum Velocity D-RGB - AMD Nickel + Plexi	€109.90	EKWB
Tubing	6x EK-HD PETG Tube 16/12mm	€46.56	EKWB
Fittings	14x EK-HTC Classic 16mm - Nickel	€61.60	EKWB
Extenders	4x EK-Extender G1/4 - Nickel	€8.72	EKWB
90° fittings	4x EK-AF Angled 90° G1/4 Nickel	€21.24	EKWB
Coolant	EK-CryoFuel Clear (Concentrate 100mL)	€6.90	EKWB
Filling bottle	Filling Bottle (1000mL)	€6.78	EKWB
Bending kit	Pacific Hardtube Bending 16/12mm Kit	€94.90	Caseking
Fans	Lian Li BR120 Digital RGB PWM Lüfter 3er Pack + Controller	€49.90	Caseking
Motherboard	MSI MEG X570 ACE	€337.40	Amazon
CPU	AMD Ryzen 9 3900X	€449.00	Amazon
GPU	EVGA GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER XC ULTRA	€584	Alternate
PSU	Seasonic PRIME GX-850	€169.90	Alternate
RAM	G.Skill DIMM 32 GB DDR4-3600 Kit	€222.90	Alternate
SSD	Samsung 970 EVO 1 TB	€199.90	Alternate
HDD	Seagate IronWolf 4 TB	€119.90	Alternate
Total summ		€2,940.33

 

As you can see, the price difference is 800+ EUR, just becuase of the another GPU and the watercool block. I could save that money, and buy later this year a GPU from RTX 3000 series. I hope, that I would not loose that much money, by selling the 2070 Super. I as well assume, that selling 2080 Ti, when the new 3000 series will be out is almost impossible, without loosing literally hunderds of EUR. 


Thank you guys so much for your help and advices! 
 

 

Just wait for rtx 3000 and if your 780ti dies again get a used rx 580. It's better than it and costs around 80$ on ebay. Also the build you have has a lot of overspending going on and could have better components for the same price. Mainly motherboard, psu and ssd related which could easily get you a 3950x and that would massively improve video editing.

[WambleCropped]

also wait for the Ryzen 4000

[Statik]

Like said above, I'd recommend trying to wait it out for 3000 series GPUs and Ryzen 4k. I hate telling people to wait for new tech, especially when it's so far away, but I feel like overspending for a $4000 Euro rig is just insanity when only a few months into it's life it will be severely outmatched.

 

While I'm not denying that the 2080Ti is the best consumer grade card on the market, I feel like spending $1500 on one will really bite when by the end of this year you can get a card that will likely perform significantly better, for significantly cheaper. The 2080Ti's price is an absolute war crime.

 

So if you can hold out, I'd strongly suggest it. For $4k this fall you'll probably be able to build one of the best gaming computers money can buy.