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I'd wager it's time for a clean Windows install.

 

If your temps are good, drivers are updated, and short of hardware failing; Windows is the likely culprit unfortunately.

 

If you have a spare drive, I'd do a clean install, setup LoL and do some tests and go from there. If it continues, then I'd say you have a hardware problem somewhere.

Hello ppl :)

 

Ive been experiencing some weird stuttering and a general slowness in my pc, and can't figure out why

The lag started when I took out my wraith spire and replaced it with a silverstone aio, about two months ago.

 

Before the AIO, the pc was able to pull 150+ frames in league but now stutters quite regularly and dips into two digits sometimes.

Cities Skylines was able to do 45-ish frames when zoomed in quite close, but now has stuttering issues all around and dips as low as 20-30

 

I have some clues as to why this is happening, but really need your help figuring it out.

I was suspecting that it was either the ram being too slow, or just windows being a pain in the ass.

(not a thermal issue, as it oc'd just fine, stock settings rn though)

 

The lagging is pretty intense sometimes and has been getting on my nerves.

Hope yall can help me figure this out, thanks in advance!

 

[Specs]

CPU- R5 1600 @ stock everything

RAM- Geil 2133/8g sticks, x2

MOBO- Gigabyte AB350N-WiFi (itx)

GPU- ZOTAC Mini 970 (its pretty old, lag could be the chip dying)

AIO- Low end Silverstone AIO

Storage- 960 EVO 512gb (Boot & Games)

              1TB WD Blue (Photos and Movies and stuff)

Case- NZXT Manta W/ 3 stock fans, and 2 Silverstone AIO fans

PSU- Superflower 500W 80Plus sliver

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sounds like a bad mount what is the temps.

get the ram up to 3000

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1 minute ago, GDRRiley said:

sounds like a bad mount what is the temps.

get the ram up to 3000

Hey @GDRRiley , Thanks for the reply

I'm confident that its not a thermal issue as it idles around the high 30's

And yes, I was thinking of getting faster ram, do you have any recommendations for budget-midrange?

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I'd wager it's time for a clean Windows install.

 

If your temps are good, drivers are updated, and short of hardware failing; Windows is the likely culprit unfortunately.

 

If you have a spare drive, I'd do a clean install, setup LoL and do some tests and go from there. If it continues, then I'd say you have a hardware problem somewhere.

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Just now, Gyuwona said:

Hey @GDRRiley , Thanks for the reply

I'm confident that its not a thermal issue as it idles around the high 30's

And yes, I was thinking of getting faster ram, do you have any recommendations for budget-midrange?

its about load not idle.

just try for an OC

Good luck, Have fun, Build PC, and have a last gen console for use once a year. I should answer most of the time between 9 to 3 PST

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GF PC: (nighthawk 2.0): R7 2700x, B450m vision D, 4x8gb Geli 2933, Strix GTX970, CX650M RGB, Obsidian 350D

Skunkworks: R5 3500U, 16gb, 500gb Adata XPG 6000 lite, Vega 8. HP probook G455R G6 Ubuntu 20. LTS

Condor (MC server): 6600K, z170m plus, 16gb corsair vengeance LPX, samsung 750 evo, EVGA BR 450.

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Just now, EChondo said:

I'd wager it's time for a clean Windows install.

 

If your temps are good, drivers are updated, and short of hardware failing; Windows is the likely culprit unfortunately.

 

If you have a spare drive, I'd do a clean install, setup LoL and do some tests and go from there. If it continues, then I'd say you have a hardware problem somewhere.

I was thinking about a new install, since it did fix a few problems I had about a year ago

Thanks for the suggestion

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1 minute ago, GDRRiley said:

its about load not idle.

just try for an OC

I think It hit about 80-ish at 3.8/1.35v, but I havent really stress tested it at stock. ill run a stress test and let you know.

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1 minute ago, Gyuwona said:

I think It hit about 80-ish at 3.8/1.35v, but I havent really stress tested it at stock. ill run a stress test and let you know.

so that means it is likely hitting the limit.

Good luck, Have fun, Build PC, and have a last gen console for use once a year. I should answer most of the time between 9 to 3 PST

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GF PC: (nighthawk 2.0): R7 2700x, B450m vision D, 4x8gb Geli 2933, Strix GTX970, CX650M RGB, Obsidian 350D

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1 hour ago, GDRRiley said:

so that means it is likely hitting the limit.

Hey @GDRRiley, I ran Aida64 for about 30 minutes at 3.2 (stock), and the max temps were 49 Cpu, and 57 Mobo.

I can't really see a problem with the temps, as far as the test's result is concerned.

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37 minutes ago, Gyuwona said:

Hey @GDRRiley, I ran Aida64 for about 30 minutes at 3.2 (stock), and the max temps were 49 Cpu, and 57 Mobo.

I can't really see a problem with the temps, as far as the test's result is concerned.

Does stock have the same issues? 

Good luck, Have fun, Build PC, and have a last gen console for use once a year. I should answer most of the time between 9 to 3 PST

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GF PC: (nighthawk 2.0): R7 2700x, B450m vision D, 4x8gb Geli 2933, Strix GTX970, CX650M RGB, Obsidian 350D

Skunkworks: R5 3500U, 16gb, 500gb Adata XPG 6000 lite, Vega 8. HP probook G455R G6 Ubuntu 20. LTS

Condor (MC server): 6600K, z170m plus, 16gb corsair vengeance LPX, samsung 750 evo, EVGA BR 450.

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Try this. Maybe something in your OS is borked.

 

Open CMD as administrator and run following commands whilst being connected to the internet.

 

SFC /SCANNOW          -this will scan your critical system files and fix them if they are broken.

 

DISM /Online /Cleanup-Image /ScanHealth

 

DISM /Online /Cleanup-Image /RestoreHealth

 

Reboot PC and see if it helped.

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The obvious thing to do is put the old cooler back on and see how it performs. May be an odd thermal issue that only shows up under a gaming load (when GPU and other components are kicking out heat too).

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I have a Ryzen 5 1600X. I also experienced performance issues similar to what you are talking about. I put it down to Ryzen master software. Every time I installed that my performance had a significant drop off. I would recommend fresh windows install as just uninstalling didn’t fix it for me.

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6 hours ago, GDRRiley said:

Does stock have the same issues? 

I havent been running it oc'd for the past months, but unfortunately the problem was/is there regardless of the oc

I am confident that oc and stock has the same problems, too

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then it is looking like an OS/driver issue.

Good luck, Have fun, Build PC, and have a last gen console for use once a year. I should answer most of the time between 9 to 3 PST

NightHawk 3.0: R7 5700x @, B550A vision D, H105, 2x32gb Oloy 3600, Sapphire RX 6700XT  Nitro+, Corsair RM750X, 500 gb 850 evo, 2tb rocket and 5tb Toshiba x300, 2x 6TB WD Black W10 all in a 750D airflow.
GF PC: (nighthawk 2.0): R7 2700x, B450m vision D, 4x8gb Geli 2933, Strix GTX970, CX650M RGB, Obsidian 350D

Skunkworks: R5 3500U, 16gb, 500gb Adata XPG 6000 lite, Vega 8. HP probook G455R G6 Ubuntu 20. LTS

Condor (MC server): 6600K, z170m plus, 16gb corsair vengeance LPX, samsung 750 evo, EVGA BR 450.

Spirt  (NAS) ASUS Z9PR-D12, 2x E5 2620V2, 8x4gb, 24 3tb HDD. F80 800gb cache, trueNAS, 2x12disk raid Z3 stripped

PSU Tier List      Motherboard Tier List     SSD Tier List     How to get PC parts cheap    HP probook 445R G6 review

 

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6 hours ago, aDoomGuy said:

Try this. Maybe something in your OS is borked.

 

Open CMD as administrator and run following commands whilst being connected to the internet.

 

SFC /SCANNOW          -this will scan your critical system files and fix them if they are broken.

 

DISM /Online /Cleanup-Image /ScanHealth

 

DISM /Online /Cleanup-Image /RestoreHealth

 

Reboot PC and see if it helped.

hey @aDoomGuy, I went and tried your suggestion, yet it reported no errors.

im gonna wipe my drive and install a fresh copy of windows tomorrow and hope for the best

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2 minutes ago, Gyuwona said:

hey @aDoomGuy, I went and tried your suggestion, yet it reported no errors.

im gonna wipe my drive and install a fresh copy of windows tomorrow and hope for the best

Sorry it had to come to that.

 

Off of the top of my head, double check everything on your OS drive before wiping it in case you need to keep anything.

 

  • C:\Users\EChondo\Desktop
  • C:\Users\EChondo\Downloads
  • C:\Users\EChondo\Documents
  • C:\Users\EChondo\AppData(usually Minecraft saves here in Local I believe)

Hopefully it's a quick and easy reinstall and it works out for the best.

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8 minutes ago, Gyuwona said:

hey @aDoomGuy, I went and tried your suggestion, yet it reported no errors.

im gonna wipe my drive and install a fresh copy of windows tomorrow and hope for the best

Sorry it didn't help you, good luck with the reinstall and remember to back up and remove any overclock/XMP you may have.

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