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1650S vs 1660S vs RX590

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I want to upgrade a friends PC which currently has a GTX 960 in it. So basically we looked at an 1650 Super for 185€ or an RX 590 8GB for 200€. There are the main two options and I would like to know which one we should get. We could also get an 1660 Super for 260€ but is it worth the extra cost? Were talking about an 1080p 60Hz monitor.

Edit: The RTX 2060 and RX 5600XT are more expensive and therefore no option.

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How much are the RX 580 and 5500XT, and what PSU does he have?

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Just now, Mateyyy said:

How much is the RX 580, and what PSU does he have?

PSU is an reliable 520W unit. RX 580 and RX590 prices are the same (200€ as said above). But were talking about XFX models for the AMD cards and Gigabyte Windoforce for the 1650S.

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RX 590 is slightly faster at the cost of a hugely greater power draw than the 1650S, so I prefer the 1650S

 

1660S is also worth it

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Just now, GrayTech said:

PSU is an reliable 520W unit. RX 580 and RX590 prices are the same (200€ as said above). But were talking about XFX models for the AMD cards and Gigabyte Windoforce for the 1650S.

Do you know the exact model of it?
The 590 consumes more than double what a 1650S consumes, and while it is faster, it might not be that much of a difference to warrant the extra power consumption, though that's up to you.

Personally, I think the 1660S does make sense if you've got the money. It is faster than the 590 by a good bit, it's newer and again consumes almost half the power. The only "drawback" would be that it has 2GB less VRAM compared to the 590, but for a 1080p card this really isn't that big of a deal.

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Why not opt for a 2060 super because you can have way better graphics than the 1660S and you can have Ray-tracing supper.

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If those three were my options I'd say the 1660 S justifies itself. (had one myself) 

 

60 dollars is the difference of like 1 or 2 games and better performance in EVERY game is worth more than that 

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4 minutes ago, BaruBakedQue21 said:

Why not opt for a 2060 super because you can have way better graphics than the 1660S and you can have Ray-tracing supper.

The 2060 is out of budget.

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Just now, GrayTech said:

The 2060 is out of budget.

What about the 5600 XT? Usually costs around the same as a 1660 Ti/S and performs as good as a 2060 non-Super

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7 minutes ago, Mateyyy said:

Do you know the exact model of it?
The 590 consumes more than double what a 1650S consumes, and while it is faster, it might not be that much of a difference to warrant the extra power consumption, though that's up to you.

Personally, I think the 1660S does make sense if you've got the money. It is faster than the 590 by a good bit, it's newer and again consumes almost half the power. The only "drawback" would be that it has 2GB less VRAM compared to the 590, but for a 1080p card this really isn't that big of a deal.

I'm concerned about the 4GB of VRAM on the 1650S but 6 is enough since she only has a 1080p monitor.

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Just now, GrayTech said:

I'm concerned about the 4GB of VRAM on the 1650S but 6 is enough since she only has a 1080p monitor.

4 is the bare minimum for 1080p these days. 6/8 is highly recommended.

But check prices on the 5600 XT and 2060 non-S first

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17 minutes ago, GrayTech said:

I want to upgrade a friends PC which currently has a GTX 960 in it. So basically we looked at an 1650 Super for 185€ or an RX 590 8GB for 200€. There are the main two options and I would like to know which one we should get. We could also get an 1660 Super for 260€ but is it worth the extra cost? Were talking about an 1080p 60Hz monitor.

1660 Super would be a great card.

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1 minute ago, 5x5 said:

What about the 5600 XT? Usually costs around the same as a 1660 Ti/S and performs as good as a 2060 non-Super

Because they are out of budget.

Just to be clear. I was told 250€ max. Stretching the budget to 260€ for the 1660S would be possible. But the 5600XT starts at 300€.

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Just now, GrayTech said:

Because they are out of budget.

Just to be clear. I was told 250€ max. Stretching the budget to 260€ for the 1660S would be possible. But the 5600XT starts at 300€.

What country?

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1 minute ago, 5x5 said:

What country?

I'm limited to Amazon Germany.

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5 minutes ago, GrayTech said:

The 2060 is out of budget.

Its just a recommendation because the price difference of a 1660S and a RTX 2060 card is not that far. And the performance and not to mention features (mainly RT support) you are getting for the price difference is very worth it.

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35 minutes ago, GrayTech said:

Because they are out of budget.

Just to be clear. I was told 250€ max. Stretching the budget to 260€ for the 1660S would be possible. But the 5600XT starts at 300€.

I would have suggested pushing it to 300eur and getting a 5600xt. But for that price, I don't think it's possible.

 

Even the asrock challenger costs almost 290eur :( 

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1 hour ago, Vejnemojnen said:

I would have suggested pushing it to 300eur and getting a 5600xt. But for that price, I don't think it's possible.

 

Even the asrock challenger costs almost 290eur :( 

338 for me when clicking this link.

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I'd also vote for the 1660 Super. Even at 1080p 60fps, it can make a big difference.

1 hour ago, BaruBakedQue21 said:

Why not opt for a 2060 super because you can have way better graphics than the 1660S and you can have Ray-tracing supper.

Barely functional ray tracing for an incredibly high premium isn't much of a selling point.

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8 hours ago, GrayTech said:

338 for me when clicking this link.

I did now know that, it's 289eur from my screen.

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