Question Upgrade my CPU and MOBO

[gianniscfa]

Hello my system is that bellow, i would like to upgrade my CPU and Mobo , plus i have to buy one more RAM stick to 16gb!
I am playing gta v, pubg, cod warzone,
live streaming to fb or yt
when trying to livestream my system cant handle it. Also i can sold my mobo and cpu and 150euros in my country. i can give 100euros more.
Can you suggest me mobo and cpu? thanks

my system
i5 6500( i need to change it)
ram 8gb (8GB DDR4 2133MHZ HYPERX FURY WHITE)
mobo : asrock H110M-HDV ( i need to change it)
gpu: rx 570 4gb power colour( i wont change it )
monitor: ultra wide 30inch lg ( i wont change it )
psu: tx650m( i wont change it )
ssd 250gb( i wont change it )
hdd 500gb( i wont change it )

[William23r]

So your total budget is 250 Euros?

Also what country are you buying in?

And would you be okay with swapping over to Ryzen (AMD)?

[Mateyyy]

I'd suggest also selling the 8GB memory stick you have, then buying a faster 2x8GB kit (2933-3200MHz), and pair that with a Ryzen 2600 or 1600AF and a decent B450 board, like a B450M PRO-VDH MAX.

[William23r]

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor	£112.40 @ Senetic
Motherboard	Gigabyte B450 AORUS M Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard	£79.99 @ Box Limited
Memory	Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory	£77.81 @ CCL Computers
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	£270.20
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-04-07 16:01 BST+0100

I would  Go for something like this and sell your existing 8gb stick of ram in favour for a 16gb kit at higher speeds.

[Fasauceome]

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 5 1600 (12nm) 3.2 GHz 6-Core Processor	€103.80 @ Alza
Motherboard	MSI B450M PRO-VDH MAX Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard	€80.89 @ Mindfactory
Memory	G.Skill Aegis 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory	€77.99 @ Mindfactory
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	€262.68
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-04-07 17:02 CEST+0200

This is basically the most economical upgrade you can get. The 12nm 1600 is practically equivalent to the Ryzen 5 2600, and the motherboard is compatible out of the box.

[gianniscfa]

6 minutes ago, William23r said:

So your total budget is 250 Euros?

Also what country are you buying in?

And would you be okay with swapping over to Ryzen (AMD)?

Greece, if need i would give 300 euros

i could go for intel again but i hear everyday ryzen is better

[gianniscfa]

4 minutes ago, Mateyyy said:

I'd suggest also selling the 8GB memory stick you have, then buying a faster 2x8GB kit (2933-3200MHz), and pair that with a Ryzen 2600 or 1600AF and a decent B450 board, like a B450M PRO-VDH MAX.

why not just buy one more 8 gb ?

[gianniscfa]

also find in my country amd ryzen 5 3600 at 160 euros, new not used.

[Mateyyy]

Just now, gianniscfa said:

why not just buy one more 8 gb ?

Because 2133MHz is as low as it gets for DDR4 memory, and especially Ryzen CPUs really benefit from fast RAM.

[William23r]

Just now, gianniscfa said:

why not just buy one more 8 gb ?

Because then you would likely have issues with different sticks and such also it makes more sense at your price point to go for ryzen which benefits for faster memory speeds 

[Fasauceome]

2 minutes ago, gianniscfa said:

Greece, if need i would give 300 euros

i could go for intel again but i hear everyday ryzen is better

 

1 minute ago, gianniscfa said:

also find in my country amd ryzen 5 3600 at 160 euros, new not used.

what prices are you able to find these motherboards for?

https://de.pcpartpicker.com/products/compare/kcCFf7,jcYQzy,h7WBD3,XJbCmG/

The cheapest among them is a good combo with a Ryzen 5 3600, and some DDR4 3000 or 3200 should fit your budget.

[William23r]

3 minutes ago, Fasauceome said:

 

what prices are you able to find these motherboards for?

https://de.pcpartpicker.com/products/compare/kcCFf7,jcYQzy,h7WBD3,XJbCmG/

The cheapest among them is a good combo with a Ryzen 5 3600, and some DDR4 3000 or 3200 should fit your budget.

You can get cheaper b450 boards than these that will help him, and providing hes only going for a 2600/3600 and not overclocking then they will be fine.

[Fasauceome]

Just now, William23r said:

You can get cheaper b450 boards than these that will help him, and providing hes only going for a 2600/3600 and not overclocking then they will be fine.

I'm recommending the cheapest guaranteed compatible motherboards with quality VRMs. Anything less than these is not recommended, because it will hurt CPU performance and/or have the chance to require a BIOS update.

[gianniscfa]

note in your mind that i am live streaming my gaming. 

 

https://www.skroutz.gr/s/15598771/Asrock-Fatal1ty-B450-Gaming-K4.html  90 euros in my country

https://www.skroutz.gr/s/19344850/AMD-Ryzen-5-3600-Box.html ryzen 5 3600 box at 170 euros

https://www.skroutz.gr/c/56/mnhmes-pc-ram/f/46405_499830_581112_583119/2-modules-DDR4-3000-MHz-8GB.html?o=ram about 60 euros for 2x4gb 3000mhz of ram.

[gianniscfa]

someone on another forum suggested me these 

MSI B450M Pro-VDH Max = €75
Ryzen 3600 = € 170
2x8GB DDR4-3000 = €75

[Fasauceome]

4 minutes ago, gianniscfa said:

note in your mind that i am live streaming my gaming. 

 

https://www.skroutz.gr/s/15598771/Asrock-Fatal1ty-B450-Gaming-K4.html  90 euros in my country

https://www.skroutz.gr/s/19344850/AMD-Ryzen-5-3600-Box.html ryzen 5 3600 box at 170 euros

https://www.skroutz.gr/c/56/mnhmes-pc-ram/f/46405_499830_581112_583119/2-modules-DDR4-3000-MHz-8GB.html?o=ram about 60 euros for 2x4gb 3000mhz of ram.

 

3 minutes ago, gianniscfa said:

someone on another forum suggested me these 

MSI B450M Pro-VDH Max = €75
Ryzen 3600 = € 170
2x8GB DDR4-3000 = €75

The ASRock Gaming K4 is a better motherboard than the Pro-VDH MAX, but the Pro-VDH MAX is guaranteed compatible with third gen Ryzen. If you don't have a friend or local shop to lend a second gen CPU for free to update the BIOS, I'd go with the second option.

[gianniscfa]

2 minutes ago, Fasauceome said:

 

The ASRock Gaming K4 is a better motherboard than the Pro-VDH MAX, but the Pro-VDH MAX is guaranteed compatible with third gen Ryzen. If you don't have a friend or local shop to lend a second gen CPU for free to update the BIOS, I'd go with the second option.

will i see differences with 3600 and 2x4gb 3000mhz from my old 6500 and 8gb ?

[Fasauceome]

3 minutes ago, gianniscfa said:

will i see differences with 3600 and 2x4gb 3000mhz from my old 6500 and 8gb ?

For streaming, a massive difference.

[gianniscfa]

not many differences in his video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHKge2d3wGQ

[gianniscfa]

Just now, Fasauceome said:

For streaming, a massive difference.

you say for streaming, only for streaming?

[Fasauceome]

Just now, gianniscfa said:

you say for streaming, only for streaming?

For gaming, if you are only playing at 1080p 60fps, and your games are already getting that, then you won't see an improvement. But, if you are playing AAA titles that are hard on your CPU, or playing at 144fps, you will see a very big improvement.

[gianniscfa]

2 minutes ago, Fasauceome said:

For gaming, if you are only playing at 1080p 60fps, and your games are already getting that, then you won't see an improvement. But, if you are playing AAA titles that are hard on your CPU, or playing at 144fps, you will see a very big improvement.

i am little bit newbie, i am getting on 2560x1080(my monitors resolution) at GTA ONLINE about 50 fps. i thing high graphics.

but when i livestream on fb or yt i see that on xsplit broadcaster dropframe, and the viewers see much lag.

[Fasauceome]

13 minutes ago, gianniscfa said:

i am little bit newbie, i am getting on 2560x1080(my monitors resolution) at GTA ONLINE about 50 fps. i thing high graphics.

but when i livestream on fb or yt i see that on xsplit broadcaster dropframe, and the viewers see much lag.

you'd be getting better framerates and frametimes in GTA online with a Ryzen 5 3600. It will help things like AI population and render distance.

[gianniscfa]

Just now, Fasauceome said:

you'd be getting better framerates and frametimes in GTA online with a Ryzen 5 3600. It will help things like AI population and render distance.

ok sorry i am asking a lot of questions. 

Also , with the same money why not getting INTEL cpu?

[Fasauceome]

7 minutes ago, gianniscfa said:

ok sorry i am asking a lot of questions. 

Also , with the same money why not getting INTEL cpu?

with an Intel CPU, you are limited to 6 cores and 6 threads in this budget, and you lose overclocking. With Ryzen, you get 6 cores as 12 threads which is extremely beneficial to your streaming performance, and you get the option for overclocking on almost every CPU and motherboard if you choose.