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I want a 1660 super. Can I trust ASUS? Gigabyte is out of stock.

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Because of coronavirus Gigabyte is taking ages to arrive in my country and im sick and bored of not being able to play any games because my current card is busted.

 

How do you rate the Asus ones? I've got these 3 options:

 

https://www.asus.com/Graphics-Cards/DUAL-GTX1660S-6G-EVO/

https://www.asus.com/Graphics-Cards/DUAL-GTX1660S-A6G-EVO/

https://www.asus.com/Graphics-Cards/TUF-3-GTX1660S-O6G-GAMING/

 

There's also this one:

 

https://www.msi.com/Graphics-card/GeForce-GTX-1660-SUPER-VENTUS-XS-OC/Gallery

 

And some other ones:

 

By Zotac and EVGA. There's the mini ITX versions too but what's the point, they are only like 20 bucks cheaper.

 

All of them go for the same price range so it's not a problem really. Im just going nuts trying to understand all those different versions which on paper seems like they perform the same so what's the point?

 

The rest of my build is a 3950x with Aorus Pro x570 and Corsair rm750x. I just want to do 1080p gaming, I don't care about raytracing. I will buy a better GPU in 3 years or so when I see a point. Right now this one does everything I need, I just need to decide which brand I can trust. My idea was Gigabyte because my Mobo is from them but like I said im tired, I just want to play some videogames immediately. Im stuck at home all day because of corona and im going nuts.

 

Can I design a fan curve with the Asus software? I would like a silent build during idle.

 

 

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please HELP. i want to order tomorrow, whatevers on stock, im done waiting

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Which EVGA and Zotac? The Zotac Twin is actually pretty nice, EVGA less so though it is also a shorter card

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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4 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

Which EVGA and Zotac? The Zotac Twin is actually pretty nice, EVGA less so though it is also a shorter card

EVGA GeForce® GTX 1660 SUPER SC Ultra Black 6GB

EVGA GeForce® GTX 1660 SUPER SC Ultra 6GB GDDR6

Zotac GeForce® GTX 1660 SUPER Twin Fan 6GB GDDR6

Zotac GeForce® GTX 1660 SUPER AMP! Edition 6GB

MSI GeForce® GTX 1660 SUPER GAMING X 6GB GDDR6

 

Can I make fan curves?

 

Btw, they DO have the 1660 ti by Gigabyte on stock, a bit more expensive but I can afford it.. should I do it?

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1 minute ago, MS-DOS said:

EVGA GeForce® GTX 1660 SUPER SC Ultra Black 6GB

EVGA GeForce® GTX 1660 SUPER SC Ultra 6GB GDDR6

Zotac GeForce® GTX 1660 SUPER Twin Fan 6GB GDDR6

Zotac GeForce® GTX 1660 SUPER AMP! Edition 6GB

MSI GeForce® GTX 1660 SUPER GAMING X 6GB GDDR6

 

Can I make fan curves?

Prices? Obv the Gaming X is the best performing, that's why price matters

 

You can make fan curves on all cards, only not on some AMD cards (in the past?) because their software broke this function. Some cards may have a fan speed limit which you cant drop below (e.g. I've heard the EVGA XC card having a 50% minimum limit, so you can only adjust from 50% to 100%), but you can bypass that with a BIOS flash (of a BIOS from a card that can use 0% fan speed). If you dont want to flash the BIOS (because you're not bored like me lol), get a card that is advertised to have 0rpm fan mode

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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Just now, Jurrunio said:

Prices? Obv the Gaming X is the best performing, that's why price matters

 

You can make fan curves on all cards, only not on some AMD cards (in the past?) because their software broke this function. Some cards may have a fan speed limit which you cant drop below (e.g. I've heard the EVGA XC card having a 50% minimum limit, so you can only adjust from 50% to 100%), but you can bypass that with a BIOS flash (of a BIOS from a card that can use 0% fan speed). If you dont want to flash the BIOS (because you're not bored like me lol), get a card that is advertised to have 0rpm fan mode

MSI GeForce® GTX 1660 SUPER VENTUS XS OC 6GB GDDR6 -  257,95€

Asus Dual GeForce® GTX 1660 SUPER EVO 6GB GDDR6 -  266,95€

MSI GeForce® GTX 1660 SUPER GAMING X 6GB GDDR6 - 284,96€

Asus Dual GeForce® GTX 1660 SUPER 6GB Advanced EVO 6GB GDDR6 - 261,95€

Asus TUF Gaming X3 GeForce® GTX 1660 SUPER Advanced 6GB GDDR6 - 270,96€

 

This is it actually. Others have "we are sending in x days..." which I don't trust at all. Im only buying immediate shipping.  I can afford any of them.

 

How do you know what performs better in practice? I can't find many charts comparing different brands.

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5 hours ago, MS-DOS said:
  • Zero Frozr technology: Stopping the fan in low-load situations, keeping a noise-free environment.

Sounds good

they all do that

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Also whats the point of those longer 3 fan ones?

better cooling = better performance

I WILL find your ITX build thread, and I WILL recommend the SIlverstone Sugo SG13B

 

Primary PC:

i7 8086k - EVGA Z370 Classified K - G.Skill Trident Z RGB - WD SN750 - Jedi Order Titan Xp - Hyper 212 Black (with RGB Riing flair) - EVGA G3 650W - dual booting Windows 10 and Linux - Black and green theme, Razer brainwashed me.

Draws 400 watts under max load, for reference.

 

How many watts do I need? ATX 3.0 & PCIe 5.0 spec, PSU misconceptions, protections explained, group reg is bad

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Just now, Fasauceome said:

they all do that

better cooling = better performance

I cant find any charts that the Asus Tuf 3x fan outperforms the MSI X for instance.

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5 hours ago, MS-DOS said:

I cant find any charts that the Asus Tuf 3x fan outperforms the MSI X for instance.

the cooler design isn't the same for asus and MSI so you can't compare them so exactly

I WILL find your ITX build thread, and I WILL recommend the SIlverstone Sugo SG13B

 

Primary PC:

i7 8086k - EVGA Z370 Classified K - G.Skill Trident Z RGB - WD SN750 - Jedi Order Titan Xp - Hyper 212 Black (with RGB Riing flair) - EVGA G3 650W - dual booting Windows 10 and Linux - Black and green theme, Razer brainwashed me.

Draws 400 watts under max load, for reference.

 

How many watts do I need? ATX 3.0 & PCIe 5.0 spec, PSU misconceptions, protections explained, group reg is bad

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3 minutes ago, Fasauceome said:

the cooler design isn't the same for asus and MSI so you can't compare them so exactly

you can compare what performs better in term of fps and thermals

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1 minute ago, MS-DOS said:

you can compare what performs better in term of fps and thermals

yes I know, but what i mean is that you can't tell exact performance just based on fans. Still, an Asus card with more fans will perform better than an Asus card with less fans

I WILL find your ITX build thread, and I WILL recommend the SIlverstone Sugo SG13B

 

Primary PC:

i7 8086k - EVGA Z370 Classified K - G.Skill Trident Z RGB - WD SN750 - Jedi Order Titan Xp - Hyper 212 Black (with RGB Riing flair) - EVGA G3 650W - dual booting Windows 10 and Linux - Black and green theme, Razer brainwashed me.

Draws 400 watts under max load, for reference.

 

How many watts do I need? ATX 3.0 & PCIe 5.0 spec, PSU misconceptions, protections explained, group reg is bad

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2 minutes ago, Fasauceome said:

yes I know, but what i mean is that you can't tell exact performance just based on fans. Still, an Asus card with more fans will perform better than an Asus card with less fans

How come MSI didnt release a x3 fan one?

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2 minutes ago, MS-DOS said:

How come MSI didnt release a x3 fan one?

they usually just make thicker heat sinks

I WILL find your ITX build thread, and I WILL recommend the SIlverstone Sugo SG13B

 

Primary PC:

i7 8086k - EVGA Z370 Classified K - G.Skill Trident Z RGB - WD SN750 - Jedi Order Titan Xp - Hyper 212 Black (with RGB Riing flair) - EVGA G3 650W - dual booting Windows 10 and Linux - Black and green theme, Razer brainwashed me.

Draws 400 watts under max load, for reference.

 

How many watts do I need? ATX 3.0 & PCIe 5.0 spec, PSU misconceptions, protections explained, group reg is bad

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okay fuck it, im going for the MSI X, should be good. Gonna do a lot of gaming due confinement for coronavirus. Crazy stuff.

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40 minutes ago, MS-DOS said:
MSI GeForce® GTX 1660 SUPER GAMING X 6GB GDDR6 - 284,96€

Asus Dual GeForce® GTX 1660 SUPER 6GB Advanced EVO 6GB GDDR6 - 261,95€

This is it actually. Others have "we are sending in x days..." which I don't trust at all. Im only buying immediate shipping.  I can afford any of them.

How do you know what performs better in practice? I can't find many charts comparing different brands.

Then Dual Advanced if you're not so performance and noise sensitive, Gaming X if you are. The TUF3 seems to use exactly the same heatsink (check pictures, the TUF3's heatsink does not extend as long as the card does while the whole card is only 20mm longer than the Dual) with an extra fan, which is not exactly a recipe for drastic improvement.

 

Visual inspection, when benchmarks arent available. The 2 fan TUF for example, not gonna recommend that when it's using the pressed aluminum heatsink like the Intel stock coolers.

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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This is pretty settled, but it's like I tell people all the time: There are no good or bad brands in tech, only good or bad products. Often the company name on a product isn't even who made most of it.

Make sure to quote or tag me (@JoostinOnline) or I won't see your response!

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I don't think anyone has given you these two things yet. you should see them before making your decision even with being sick of waiting.

 

 

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9 hours ago, tdkid said:

I don't think anyone has given you these two things yet. you should see them before making your decision even with being sick of waiting.

 

 

Already ordered gaming X

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