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6 minutes ago, LeBigRouge said:

So I'm half way through my build,

But the setup is going to be this, prices are AUD

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Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor $278.00 @ Shopping Express
Motherboard MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard $185.00 @ PC Byte
Memory G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory $140.80 @ Newegg Australia
Storage Crucial MX500 500 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive $95.00 @ Shopping Express
Storage Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $83.00 @ Shopping Express
Video Card MSI Radeon RX 5700 XT 8 GB GAMING X Video Card $678.00 @ Shopping Express
Case Cooler Master MasterBox NR600 (w/o ODD) ATX Mid Tower Case $89.00 @ PC Byte
Power Supply Corsair RMx (2018) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply $177.95 @ Shopping Express
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total $1726.75
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-03-08 15:24 AEDT+1100  

 

It looks like you should go with the 5700xt. As I said before, they will bundle together much better than anything from NVIDIA.The motherboard for Radeon and AMD systems is more affordable anyway.

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Wondering if I'd be better off with a new 5700xt or a used gtx 1080

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They perform almost the same, 1080 is a tiny bit faster.

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6 minutes ago, Jeve Stobs said:

What are the specs of your setup? AMD and NVIDIA don't play well so if you have a Ryzen processor I would go with the 5700xt. If not, the GTX 1080 is always a great option. Check out this link to see a benchmark comparison between the two: https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-GTX-1080-vs-AMD-RX-5700-XT/3603vs4045

So I'm half way through my build,

But the setup is going to be this, prices are AUD

PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor $278.00 @ Shopping Express
Motherboard MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard $185.00 @ PC Byte
Memory G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory $140.80 @ Newegg Australia
Storage Crucial MX500 500 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive $95.00 @ Shopping Express
Storage Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $83.00 @ Shopping Express
Video Card MSI Radeon RX 5700 XT 8 GB GAMING X Video Card $678.00 @ Shopping Express
Case Cooler Master MasterBox NR600 (w/o ODD) ATX Mid Tower Case $89.00 @ PC Byte
Power Supply Corsair RMx (2018) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply $177.95 @ Shopping Express
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total $1726.75
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-03-08 15:24 AEDT+1100  

 

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7 minutes ago, Constantin said:

They perform almost the same, 1080 is a tiny bit faster.

Yeah, a 1080 is a tiny bit faster.

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13 minutes ago, LeBigRouge said:

Wondering if I'd be better off with a new 5700xt or a used gtx 1080

Price should be significantly different between those 2, how much?

What is your PC spec? PSU model, etc. 

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3 minutes ago, xAcid9 said:

Yeah, a 1080 is a tiny bit faster.

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Price should be significantly different between those 2, how much?

What is your PC spec? PSU model, etc. 

PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor $278.00 @ Shopping Express
Motherboard MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard $185.00 @ PC Byte
Memory G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory $140.80 @ Newegg Australia
Storage Crucial MX500 500 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive $95.00 @ Shopping Express
Storage Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $83.00 @ Shopping Express
Video Card MSI Radeon RX 5700 XT 8 GB GAMING X Video Card $678.00 @ Shopping Express
Case Cooler Master MasterBox NR600 (w/o ODD) ATX Mid Tower Case $89.00 @ PC Byte
Power Supply Corsair RMx (2018) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply $177.95 @ Shopping Express
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total $1726.75
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-03-08 15:28 AEDT+1100  

This is build I'm going for, but wondering if I'd be better off with a 1080

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@xAcid9this chart is garbage 2070 is ass lot faster than the 5700xt .....

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Just now, Constantin said:

@xAcid9this chart is garbage 2070 is ass lot faster than the 5700xt .....

Show me other reliable review that 2070 is "ass alot faster" than the 5700xt. Not on 1 or 2 game. 

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6 minutes ago, LeBigRouge said:

So I'm half way through my build,

But the setup is going to be this, prices are AUD

PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor $278.00 @ Shopping Express
Motherboard MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard $185.00 @ PC Byte
Memory G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory $140.80 @ Newegg Australia
Storage Crucial MX500 500 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive $95.00 @ Shopping Express
Storage Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $83.00 @ Shopping Express
Video Card MSI Radeon RX 5700 XT 8 GB GAMING X Video Card $678.00 @ Shopping Express
Case Cooler Master MasterBox NR600 (w/o ODD) ATX Mid Tower Case $89.00 @ PC Byte
Power Supply Corsair RMx (2018) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply $177.95 @ Shopping Express
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total $1726.75
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-03-08 15:24 AEDT+1100  

 

It looks like you should go with the 5700xt. As I said before, they will bundle together much better than anything from NVIDIA.The motherboard for Radeon and AMD systems is more affordable anyway.

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2 minutes ago, LeBigRouge said:
This is build I'm going for, but wondering if I'd be better off with a 1080

Either card is fine for that build, i assumed a new 5700XT is better than 1080 overall but if price different is huge enough and 2nd hand 1080 could be more appealing.

 

Also which 5700XT and 1080? What games are you going to play?

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5 minutes ago, xAcid9 said:

Show me other reliable review that 2070 is "ass alot faster" than the 5700xt. Not on 1 or 2 game. 

Not worth arguing with him tbh, not the first time he's done this...

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21 minutes ago, Jeve Stobs said:

AMD and NVIDIA don't play well so if you have a Ryzen processor I would go with the 5700xt.

That's not true right? Do you have anything to back this up?

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Sorry for the incorrect info.

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1 minute ago, Fin the Human said:

I run completely mixed hardware on all of my systems and have run into no issues.

Yeah that's what i thought, in fact AMD FX processor actually perform better on Nvidia GPUs compare to AMD GPUs because of it better threaded driver. 

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I still stand by my recommendation on the 5700xt. The performance is a bit better and it handles multi threaded tasks like a boss.

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Fine Fin The Human.

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4 minutes ago, Jeve Stobs said:

I read an article about this recently: https://kotaku.com/nvidia-and-amd-are-at-each-other-s-throats-again-1825830668

Old news, Nvidia already canceled the program. If you don't want to buy Nvidia because of their shitty business practice, that's fine to me but don't misinformed other people just because you don't like the company. 

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I still recommended the correct card based on pure specifications, not reputation.

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5 minutes ago, xAcid9 said:

Old news, Nvidia already canceled the program. If you don't want to buy Nvidia because of their shitty business practice, that's fine to me but don't misinformed other people just because you don't like the company. 

The beginning of the article was about NVIDIA cancelling the program which triggered AMD's response. 

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2 hours ago, xAcid9 said:

Either card is fine for that build, i assumed a new 5700XT is better than 1080 overall but if price different is huge enough and 2nd hand 1080 could be more appealing.

 

Also which 5700XT and 1080? What games are you going to play?

Msi gaming x for the 5700xt, and the 1080 would depend on what I could find,

Mainly play single player story driven games, also play games like borderlands, eve online, occasionally call of duty

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4 hours ago, Constantin said:

They perform almost the same, 1080 is a tiny bit faster.

Nope, 2070 is about 10-15% faster than the 1080. And the 5700xt is sandwiched between the 2070 and 2070s performance wise.

4 hours ago, Constantin said:

@xAcid9this chart is garbage 2070 is ass lot faster than the 5700xt .....

Except every review ever hasnt come to that conclusion. 

 

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This is vs the 2070s which is a good bit faster than the 2070. Which again is 10-15% faster than the 1080. Not to mention the edge Turing, GCN and RDNA has in modern low level APIs. 

 

Please stop making unsubstansiated claims. Its not the first time. 

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7 hours ago, Jeve Stobs said:

What are the specs of your setup? AMD and NVIDIA don't play well so if you have a Ryzen processor I would go with the 5700xt. If not, the GTX 1080 is always a great option. Check out this link to see a benchmark comparison between the two: https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-GTX-1080-vs-AMD-RX-5700-XT/3603vs4045

This "Amd and Invidia don't play well" urban myth persists, despite the fact that it is incorrect :( 

Life is really challenging. I don't always suceed: )

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5700xt will only get better from this point on ..and 1080 will get slightly worse and worse...I vote and this time

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